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MadRabbit -> RE: How to tell a true Master? (9/6/2007 9:24:12 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
And, unfortanely, I am right, Bob. There is no special level of control, some amazing attributes for a Master, no Wow factor that applies universally for one to make a power exchange work.
There is just two mature adults in a relationship that is just another relationship. The only values that are important are the one's the two individual finds value in. Just because someone has imperfections and not achieved a level of Zen like control doesnt mean they cant make a power exchange work. I know plenty who do who are nothing more than an average Joe.
Rabbit, the "average Joes" are the "fakes, liars and wannabes" I see mentioned in far too many profiles belonging to female sub/slaves.
There are a considerable number of these profiles who complain that the only people they hear from are the fakes, liars and wannabes.
That is your "average Joe", and PE is not working for him.
Which demonstrates my point that BDSM is not for the immature or the faint-hearted.
Now how mature one needs to be to make it work, and keep it working is another matter.
You say a master can get angry with his slave and beat her to the point where she needs to use a safeword, and that this is ok: he's a legitimate master.
I say that is plain wrong. No legitimate master would or should lose control of himself to the point where he needs his slave to bring him back to reality.
Who says an angry master is actually going to respect a safeword? What magic is being invoked that any master out of control with anger is going to respect a safeword?
Now you have said that if my standard were the expectations of all sub/slaves, there wouldn't be enough doms to go around.
My opinion? That is not likely to be true, as the refusal to accept anything less would force some men to grow up and learn to control themselves.
And those who refuse to grow up would not be in a position to harm any sub/slave by losing control of himself and getting angry with her and beating her till a safeword is uttered.
There's a down-side to this?
(O.o)
Bob, your judging now.
Now what did Jesus say about judging?
Would he be proud of his little Messiah?
I'm great you have expectations you feal the need to pompously proclaim as everyone else's standards.
I, however, dont discourage people from trying to find personal fullfillment in their relationships. Nor do I imply they cannot or will not ever be what they want.
Its called growth and learning.
Finnally, I never once said that it was ok for a Master to get angry and beat his slave.
I said the criteria for a "True Master" isnt any different than the normal criteria for a decent human being with values.
If someone is a decent human being with values, then any mistakes they make they will feal guilt and remorse for and strive to improve on.
My opinion is that its about two decent human beings trying to make a relationship they are happy in work regardless of whatever flaws or imperfections they need to work on.
Nor am I going to divide people up into "wannabes" and "legitimate Masters" simply because of those imperfections and discourage them from trying to find fulfillment.
If you want to keep putting words in my mouth, thats fine. Its not helping you out.
I have no idea where you got any of this stuff you claim I said in my post because its completely out in left field.
Enjoy the atmosphere up there on Pluto.
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