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free2agoodhome -> cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 1:22:07 PM)
I have come across a few dominants who say they can't 'afford' a fultime slave unless the slaves brings in $, and holds a 40 hr/week job. This puzzles me, since for one, when a slave holds a 40hr/week job there is not much time to do other things At the same time when a slave performs duties these duties dont need to be contracted with strangers, like a cleaning lady ($30 - $40/hr) , personal chef ($40/hr), handy man/plumber/electrician/painter ($40 - $75/hr), Yard maintenance ($25/hr), Doing laundry / dishes etc. so when a slave serves fulltime does the slave not save $ .......where is my logic going wrong? Or do these dominants just want a slave who besides doing all the work also acts as an atm?

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 1:27:27 PM)
AN interesting question,For me I have as many as I can afford,Having sent 2 thur school.MINE work in their chosen profession,if they didn't I couldn't afford to keep as many as we have...WE own 4 at the moment...bounty

earthycouple -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 1:28:47 PM)
I don't contract out services so a slave coming in and doing my dishes is not saving me a dime. For me...I don't care how many hours you work, so long as you ensure your bills are always paid, you have a retirement fund, insurances necessary, and contribute to the household that is now YOURS too. It isn't about an ATM it is about contribution to your own home financially just like you would do if you lived alone or with a roommate or whatever. What makes you think you should live in someone else's home without some financial contribution? You use water, gas, electric, phone, internet, cable, garbage, sewer services (and you come with a bill or two of your own I bet) and are a fully functioning adult. If you didn't want to contribute then you are selfish in my mind. I don't expect my slave to do every bit of housework either since there are (in theory) three adults here, all who hold jobs, probably full time, and all contribute in various ways. I hate laundry...you do the laundry. I typically take responsibility for the kitchen as I enjoy that aspect. Everyone UMs included help with the common living area since well, it is common and we all use it. And if the dominant in the house works 40 hours a week, why shouldn't you? If you find a job that has hours the same or similar to hers you are there when she is to do her day to day pampering bidding...or whatever she chooses.

MySweetSubmssive -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 1:37:36 PM)
Why do you equate expecting an adult to have a job with being an atm? Frankly, I would think the very same thing of a submissive who wanted to serve "full time" (i.e. not have an outside job). How many people on here have a personal chef? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. My exception would be if I was doing work where I could support a family and there were little ums in the household. MSS

GrizzlyBear -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 1:49:52 PM)
If you are a slacker who is tired of having to work for a living and wants someone else to support him, come right out and say so on your profile. There are lots of young femsubs that seem to have that attitude, that if they vacuum and do the dishes and submit to being beat and give a decent blowjob and spread their legs on command they are entitled to be fully supported in the style in which they hope to become accustomed. In other words, they want a sugar daddy. Some of them will even find one. Gonna be a bit tougher for a 50-YO male, I'm thinking, but good luck with that. You are certainly entitled to wish for whatever you want. You know what they say about wishing though.

DianeB269 -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 2:41:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: free2agoodhome I have come across a few dominants who say they can't 'afford' a fultime slave unless the slaves brings in $, and holds a 40 hr/week job. This puzzles me, since for one, when a slave holds a 40hr/week job there is not much time to do other things At the same time when a slave performs duties these duties dont need to be contracted with strangers, like a cleaning lady ($30 - $40/hr) , personal chef ($40/hr), handy man/plumber/electrician/painter ($40 - $75/hr), Yard maintenance ($25/hr), Doing laundry / dishes etc. so when a slave serves fulltime does the slave not save $ .......where is my logic going wrong? Or do these dominants just want a slave who besides doing all the work also acts as an atm? I can afford a few fulltime slaves but, I do not want a 24/7 relationship. Diane

chathamvahere -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 2:51:07 PM)
We would provide for our slave, she would accompany us on vacation, etc... Of course this is just what we have agreed on, we want her avalable for us, no need for her to work, however if she preferred to work, we would consider this, also, why not, :)Mistress

kshearsecouple -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 3:56:18 PM)
I tend to agree with the majority. If we find us a 24/7 we couldn't afford for them to be a loaf. I work my husband works by gawd u better work too. It doesn't have to be 40 plus hours but you better beable to contribute to our household. And who in teh world here pays a chef......Even if I had the money to do so that would take away from what I love to do...cook. Not to mention the 24/7 is to ease my burden on doing the dishes laundry general cleaning so it won't be saving me a penny either.

LaTigresse -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 4:01:57 PM)
The way I look at it..........If I can work full time and do all this stuff.......so can someone else. I refuse to support another adult that is fully capable of working for a living.

havnfun4now -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 4:09:29 PM)
We're looking for someone to join us and have examined the costs of keeping a slave. Your examples wouldn't talk me into believing a live in slave who doesn't work outside the home would be cheaper than one who does. Cleaning, laundry, yard maintenance, painting, and cooking are all things I can and will do for myself rather than pay someone to do them for me. We do hire plumbers, electricians, appliance repair people when needed, however, one is only required once every so many years. So rather than your hundreds of dollars in savings that a full time slave would provide weekly, actually the slave would save about $200 every few years in your electrician/plumber category. On the other hand, the expenses of keeping a slave are numerous. First we have basics like food, clothing, and a place to stay. Then there is medical insurance to provide at a cost of several hundred dollars a month. Anything the medical insurance wouldn't cover would be paid out of our pocket. Then there is a retirement fund for the time when we've passed away. We'd take owning a slave seriously and would make sure he/she was provided for. Of course we'd want the slave to be able to drive the car and do errands so car insurance would have to be purchased for the slave as well. We live on a fairly fixed income. We could not take care of our basic expenses if we had to add the expense of a slave who provides nothing except services we could do for ourselves. In our opinion, your logic is flawed. It seems more like the ramblings of a person/potential slave who is looking for owners to be his/her personal ATM. LOL...your name reminds me of those free puppies/kittens I've been offered. First we have shots and spaying/neutering. Then there is flea powder, toys, water bowl, food dish, litter box if it's a kitten, food, bed, collar, leash, and maybe obediance school. Then there are the damages...carpets peed on, shoes chewed, electrical cords eaten. My red eared turtles were close to free. After tanks (2 now as they've grown), heater, filter, pump, lights, etc...I've got over $350 invested in those $10 turtles...and have only had them for 9 months!!!! The words "free2agoodhome" just mean it's gonna cost me plenty.

thetammyjo -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 4:51:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: free2agoodhome I have come across a few dominants who say they can't 'afford' a fultime slave unless the slaves brings in $, and holds a 40 hr/week job. This puzzles me, since for one, when a slave holds a 40hr/week job there is not much time to do other things At the same time when a slave performs duties these duties dont need to be contracted with strangers, like a cleaning lady ($30 - $40/hr) , personal chef ($40/hr), handy man/plumber/electrician/painter ($40 - $75/hr), Yard maintenance ($25/hr), Doing laundry / dishes etc. so when a slave serves fulltime does the slave not save $ .......where is my logic going wrong? Or do these dominants just want a slave who besides doing all the work also acts as an atm? Two assumptions. First that the slave could do all those things. Second that she would hire someone to do them. I can do most of those things myself so I wouldn't hire someone to do it. Every extra person adds on expenses and in my household a slave should not tax the existing finances of the family. Contributing to the finances is one way to not tax it; Fox gives us money each month as a sort of rental that covers his part of things like electric bills, water bills, and gas bills. Since we got cable internet so we could all three be online at the same time he pays 1/3 of that. Most of his money goes to pay his college loans, his car, his insurance, personal things he wants, and savings. I think it is very important that any of my slaves be capable and able to support themselves because I could walk out my house and be hit by a car tomorrow. Now should I hit it big with a great job next year and Tom gets one too, then we might do something like Fox has his web design business and takes care of more mundane matters. Right now while he's on a vacation from his regular job this is exactly what he is doing. I haven't made dinner in over a week now -- kind of weird for me but we try to keep the work load and household chores relatively fair around here.

arayofsunshine55 -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 5:12:43 PM)
The US is full of dual income families. Prople work and they come home and deal with the house. Dividing up those activities as it makes sense in their relationshi. This seems no different to me.

MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 5:19:57 PM)
How many people do you know that have a regular housekeeper AND a personal chef AND a gardener AND a handyman? At most, they might have one or two of such people come in a day or two a month. Just curious.

Lashra -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 5:21:58 PM)
Sorry no free rides here. Anyone that lives with me has to contribute to the household income. I do not expect a slave to do ALL the chores or for me to keep ALL of their money but they will contribute to the household if they are going to live here. If they live out then I don't expect any monies from them, but I do expect them to pay their own bills, buy their own things etc. Thats just how it is with me. ~Lashra

wilfulcontrol -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 5:24:23 PM)
We require that a slave hold some kind of employment to show us she isn't a slacker, and to help with communal expenses like food and the water bill (maybe $200 a month total), and her own expenses (entertainment, clothes, car note, cell phone, etc..) There was a point when We couldn't absorb the cost of another person in Our home, so no one else lived here. No one's whipping out a calculator to see who owes who how much, We just have the expectation that she'll pull her own weight and contribute even a token amount to the house, to say she helped.

petdave -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 6:36:48 PM)
i think that what it most often comes down to is "I hate My job, and what does misery love? COMPANY!" [8D]

chickpea -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 6:59:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: free2agoodhome I have come across a few dominants who say they can't 'afford' a fultime slave unless the slaves brings in $, and holds a 40 hr/week job. This puzzles me, since for one, when a slave holds a 40hr/week job there is not much time to do other things At the same time when a slave performs duties these duties dont need to be contracted with strangers, like a cleaning lady ($30 - $40/hr) , personal chef ($40/hr), handy man/plumber/electrician/painter ($40 - $75/hr), Yard maintenance ($25/hr), Doing laundry / dishes etc. so when a slave serves fulltime does the slave not save $ .......where is my logic going wrong? Or do these dominants just want a slave who besides doing all the work also acts as an atm? First, I think that a 24/7 slave will probably not cost more than a few more hundred a month (slaves can sleep in the same bed and use the same bathroom, and only require food as a bare bones expense). If a dominant can't even afford a few extra hundred a month, they the last thing on their minds should be getting a 24/7 slave??!!! They should work to fix their financial situation... If that can't even gain control of their financial situation (for those able bodied doms) how can they control a sub???????????!!! A sub who supports their doms is okay if it works. But a dom who is DEPENDENT on a sub for financial support, is not in control and is not a dom and the whole 24/7 thing is a farce! I guess for a sub who just wants 24/7 for financial support, that's the same. The sub doesn't submit because of submission, but because of money. That's prostitution. But if the sub choses to submit (wants and needs), and also has money or ways of making money, but ends up getting financially supported anyway because the dom prefers it that way, well that's still submission. Also, i see no need that slaves have to work JUST to prove they're not using doms for money. If both parties are not really dependent on each other financially, the use of finances in the whole deal can be used as a tool for some healthy erotic situations. One person can work all day and give all their money to their dom. Or the sub can be forbidden from working. (I guess if they're both not financially independent, toying around with the money situation can only lead to disaster...since relationships are never guaranteed. just my opinion.)

MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 7:04:19 PM)
quote: I think that a 24/7 slave will probably not cost more than a few more hundred a month (slaves can sleep in the same bed and use the same bathroom, and only require food as a bare bones expense). How about health insurance and retirement? This also assumes that the sub has absolutely no debt or other financial needs, like old student loans, kids that he has to financially support, etc.

LaTigresse -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 7:52:48 PM)
Hell, my 4legged pets cost more than a "few hundred" to support! Being a furry creature around this farm is a pretty good life. The two legged ones will never have it so easy.

jennifer819 -> RE: cost of 24-7? (9/3/2007 8:17:18 PM)
Health /dental insurance,food,clothing.Living on one income isnt easy. At least they let you know this from the start rather than take you in stuggle and be unable to provide for you.If the relationship were to end and you had no money saved or income where would you go?If the relationship lasted many years as strictly M/s without being married and the working partner died theres a chance the other could lose everything and have no retirement.I just consider myself very lucky to have a Master who would look out for my needs in the long run rather than his wants in the short.Just my way of looking at it.

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