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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/7/2007 11:16:05 PM   
ArizonaSunSwitch


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If social security and medicare remain as it is now the average tax rate of everyone born today will be near 70%.
And in the stupidity of socialized medicine and make it 90 percent.

Freedom was nice while it lasted.

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/7/2007 11:45:01 PM   
InfernoMDM


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html


Do you know why real scientists almost never quote Christian Scientists(not scientists that are christian the other kind)?  Because even if the data is good, the obseravtions made are ernoious at best.

Quoting that place is much the same thing, even if you believe it.  I remember when the Iraqi Death count was over a million people, then several credible organizations called BS and the number was cut in half. 

Please don't get me wrong I like that you are sighting your sources.  However the guy is a bit intresting in his information, and Q&A section.  He also hasn't update that page since 2005.  We may have added a few million more, r gone down.

Not to mention judgeing Debt, and compareing it to a Republican's only when we still see a rise during Clintons time is igorant, and misleading at best.

Not to mention your bitching about billion dollar bridges when Clintion and other Democrats in office have equailly wasted the similar ammounts of money.  Clintion delaying flights costing MILLIONS.  Take into account both parties are wasteing money at pretty much a equal rate, and both of you arguments are useless.

Also lastly what military buildup happened under Clintion?  I am going to speculate you didn't serve while clinton was in office.  I can't say anything for the other branches, but Mr. Clinton used up tons of our resourses and failed to replenish what he used. 

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 1:07:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
Weird, we have not heard FirmhandKY weigh in on to cheer for the prosperity the Neo-Cons have brought to the United States.

I cannot wait to see his lucid analysis of how tripling the debt load in 6 years is a positive benefit to the economy.

Sinergy

I'll be sure to let him know that you miss him.
hubba hubba!!  What a nice new photo!! 

Sinergy just can't get over me, I think.  I was one of the few posters that actually took him serious ... for a while.

My mistake. 

Firm




it's so lovely to know that you're not only checking out Sinergy's photos, but that you find Him "hubba hubba" 23 skidoo. yes, he's quite the hunk.

as to your mistakes, i'm sure he'd be more than happy to discuss those with you at length. please do enjoy your day.

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 1:59:37 AM   
farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: ArizonaSunSwitch

Oh good lord, someone really needs to wipe out the US educational system and start over from scratch using
private schools and vouchers.


Public Funded Charter schools are a proven failure.

Now, using vouchers to vote with your feet among PUBLIC schools? That's an idea worth considering.

And parents clubbing together to use their vouchers to create their own school? That's FREEDOM.



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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 5:35:50 AM   
TreasureKY


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ORIGINAL: Sinergysdarlin

it's so lovely to know that you're not only checking out Sinergy's photos, but that you find Him "hubba hubba" 23 skidoo. yes, he's quite the hunk.

as to your mistakes, i'm sure he'd be more than happy to discuss those with you at length. please do enjoy your day.


I know here in the forums it can be challenging sometimes figuring out just who is addressing who, but that little comment (in reply to TreasureKY) in the bottom right corner of a post is usually a good indication.  While "TreasureKY" and "Sinergy" do have four letters in common, that's about as far as it goes.  

Of course, the fact that Sinergy is being spoken about rather than spoken to is also a pretty big clue.

Don't fret about it too much, though... everyone makes mistakes.



< Message edited by TreasureKY -- 9/8/2007 5:48:15 AM >

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 5:51:58 AM   
TreasureKY


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I see you've been paying attention!


One of my many skills. 

< Message edited by TreasureKY -- 9/8/2007 5:52:31 AM >

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 7:09:13 AM   
Owner59


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Status: offline 		 The point is,that just three presidents(all republican,all supposedly fiscally conservative,pffft) had borrowed more money (70% of all money borrowed),then ALL other presidents in the long history of the USA,combined.In just 20 years,they borrowed more than two thirds of all cash,ever borrowed.

The so-called fiscal conservatives can spin and cook the numbers all they want.The fact remains the same... Republicans are no longer the party of sound fiscal policy.

BTW,the money we`re borrowing to fund the tax cuts to millionaires? That will have to be payed back by us(you and me) in the future,along w/ the interest.That extra interest WE must pay on this debt,is in actuality,is a tax increase.

< Message edited by Owner59 -- 9/8/2007 7:11:02 AM >

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 10:06:06 AM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		Nope owner59, Congress borrows money, not the president.

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 6:42:08 PM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I see you've been paying attention!


One of my many skills. 

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 6:49:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Nope owner59, Congress borrows money, not the president.


This is a piss poor time to look to the constitution as a savior.(actually house, but you go, boy)




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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 6:59:27 PM   
ArgoGeorgia


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Status: offline 		Personally, I think Democrats and Republicans are all a bunch of thieves, they all spend more money than they should or are even authorized, they are all power-hungry and pretty much all of them have no problem spending someone else's money. 

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 8:01:48 PM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY


Why does it feel wrong that, as he is a complete stranger on a message board, I know not only that LaM's nine inch cock is curved, but that it is also referred to as "el Presidente"? 


Ah, don't worry about it feeling 'wrong'.  I think about LaM's cock too.

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 8:34:15 PM   
luckydog1


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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 8:39:34 PM   
mnottertail


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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 8:42:24 PM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		yeah, I guess some people are impressed by your ramblings.  Just to be clear you are asserting some one other than congress writes the budgets?  Even you can't be that un educated.  And dip a pig in shit and call it uncle, at least you are not reverting to racism or calling me a faggot  (yet)

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 8:49:28 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		nothing wrong with faggots, and no, congress does not write budgets. I shall not write this out for you this time, you supply the cite, rather than imply the way things ought to be.  You may, if you think it relevant to any realism, explain in passing the OMB and GAO, but just a cite, that congress writes them...(proviso, there is a difference in fact between the house and the senate, collectively known as congress) and the congress colloquially meant as the house.

Serious...................

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 9:00:01 PM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		If you want to pretend congress doesn't write budgets (in the same way they write all laws) go ahead mnot.  Perhaps the concept of how laws are made confuses you.  thats ok, just say some more rambling nonsense.  The GAO is part of congress, so I am not sure why you are rambling about that.  The pres can send congress a wish list if he wants (and he usually does).  Congress then can listen or wipe thier butts with his requests.  Then the house writes a budget, the senate does, they confrence and make it the same and send it to the Pres for a signature or a veto. 

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 9:09:58 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		you need to revisit your constitution, Al Haig, it really hasn't changed since you were shit out and hatched in the sun, laddie buck, and the GAO is not and never has been part of congress, and you might be bold and able to run your mouth and embarrass yourself with impudence and impugnity and all that shit, but you aint half clever enough to pour piss out of a boot or to accuse me of being drunk. 

Now, once again you cast aspersions, (you have no other  calling in this world to consume any oxygen) and lo, what is this, no actual backing but the firm belief that every asswipe knows by faith what is simply not true.
Stand and deliver!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or slink off and read a fuckin' book. Drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life, son.



Ron



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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 9:14:34 PM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		Indeed I agree, drunk and stupidly rambling is a piss poor way for you to spent your sunset years.   http://www.gao.gov/   "The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) is known as "the investigative arm of Congress" and "the congressional watchdog." GAO supports the Congress in meeting its constitutional responsibilities and helps improve the performance and ensure the accountability of the federal government for the benefit of the American people. "

I will await your appreciation for the lesson....of course you are simply not man enough to admit when you are 100% wrong.  Please more drunken rambling old timer......

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RE: Regan,Bush I,bush II own 70% of all US debt - 9/8/2007 9:18:18 PM   
marieToo


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Status: offline 		why don't the two of you just measure up the old tallywhackers already and let's wrap this thing up.

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