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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 7/18/2005 12:05:38 PM   
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First of all . . . I don't "play" with people I'm not emotionally connected to.

To answer your question . . . . . move on. I know it's not as easy as it sounds. But in the end, it will be better for you. And more fullfilling to be with someone you can love.





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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 7/20/2005 7:13:29 AM   
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"Not allowed to love Him"?? "Stop loving Him"??? I feel your pain but since when is emotion something you can turn on and off like the garden hose? A C/couple can agree not to allow emotion to affect the relationship if T/they prefer (and some actually manage it) but you can NOT tell someone "you aren't allowed to love me" and expect them to obey you. Emotion is not logical - never has been.
I have to agree that you need to take a large step back and spend some time evaluating your self and your needs before heading off to where He is. You are obviously very unhappy as things stand - why make it worse by being unhappy in a place where you don't know anyone but the source of the unhappiness?

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 7/20/2005 8:26:24 AM   
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Yes that's right I'm not allowed to love my Master.


if that was a direct order and you have disobeyed Him, did you really expect to "change" His mind? sounds like He has been honest with you--you are not the one He is looking for to be "in love" with. this slave would encourage you to either accept it and continue your one-sided love relationship or beg for release.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 7/20/2005 8:55:01 AM   
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This is a reasonably common circumstance: a Dom or Master who wants control and power, but doesn't want, for whatever reason, emotional intimacy, paired with an "s" who longs for emotional intimacy.

That's a game framed to lose. You have contradictory values, and a contradictory ultimate end - it is hard to imagine a worse situation.

I won't offer any judgment or advice - I am sorry you have such a tough situation, and hope you both have the wisdom and honesty to find a just solution to your situation.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 12:39:41 AM   
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sorry to unearth an old thread. I have met a man that has proposed a d/s relationship to me. We have insane chemistry, many common sexual interests and desires, are both young, healthy and attractive... I long to serve and he longs to dominate. The arrangement will not be 24/7 due to my obligations to work and taking care of my two sons and his external obligations (which drive the nail in the coffin) - these two factors keep me from moving forward: He is married... he is NOT emotionally available.

I agree that this is a recipe for failure, but I automatically want to please this man... follow behind him like the good little girl I am. This is purely natural between our desires, personalities etc. He approached me at work on day... and here I am.

I have been up all night trying to come to a final decision about this man. There is a proposed session of play this Wednesday after a few days of sporadic play that led up to a nice little chocking/gagging session in the men's bathroom (his first test of my will)..... but I am torn.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 6:34:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blacklily

sorry to unearth an old thread. I have met a man that has proposed a d/s relationship to me. We have insane chemistry, many common sexual interests and desires, are both young, healthy and attractive... I long to serve and he longs to dominate. The arrangement will not be 24/7 due to my obligations to work and taking care of my two sons and his external obligations (which drive the nail in the coffin) - these two factors keep me from moving forward: He is married... he is NOT emotionally available.

I agree that this is a recipe for failure, but I automatically want to please this man... follow behind him like the good little girl I am. This is purely natural between our desires, personalities etc. He approached me at work on day... and here I am.

I have been up all night trying to come to a final decision about this man. There is a proposed session of play this Wednesday after a few days of sporadic play that led up to a nice little chocking/gagging session in the men's bathroom (his first test of my will)..... but I am torn.


I think you know the answer to your questions.  What's keeping you up at night is that you don't like those answers.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 7:32:25 AM   
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I agree with what Cantilena has said.

You already know you are not compatible. Your hormones will get over it. Move on, find someone that is better for you.

Or, play, fuck his brains out...........then come back in a few months crying about how hurt you are and how stupid you were for getting involved with him. And for losing your job cuz you got busted fucking around at work.........


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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 7:33:19 AM   
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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 8:12:41 AM   
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Tis better to have loved and lost, than ne'er to have loved at all.   You don't have to stop loving Him, you just have to move on and "eventually" the memory will fade (or not).  In this case, it seems the passion is all yours, but "of the moment" you know?  Twenty years from now, you may even find it hard to remember His name.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 8:55:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: punnishme

Yes that's right I'm not allowed to love my Master.

***falling in love happens - nothing we can do about that - the matters of the heart - how anyone can even think to control that is insane***

This man is old enough to be my father, that doesn't bother me but the more time I spend with him the more I realize that it does bother Him, or at least makes Him believe that we could never have a relationship with one another. It's not fare, I mean I've given up everything for Him, sacraficed and put my life on hold to be with him, and am even moving there to be with him so that I can do everything possible to make Him see me, the person that's so in love with Him, the person that would sacrafice her life for this man (I'm serious)

***did he tell you to sacrifice everything for him - or is this -your- choice? And why on earth would you move to one that has already said
1. i do not love you
2. you are not allowed to love me
3. i will find another to love
What will you do, then?? New place - no network and no him??***

I just dont know what to do anymore.

We spend more time fighting about me being in love with Him, more time with me listening to Him telling me that I need to find a way out of my feelings and emotions because He's going to find someone else and knows what it will do to me,

***why is he still holding onto you, i wonder...is it like someone else said here - he needs a bedwarmer until is "twue" love arrives? To me that is so selfish and cruel, i lack words...personally i feel he should let you go - so you can heal and grow strong on your own - and when your wounds are healed, be able to find one that not only allows you to love him - but expects it - and gives the same back. ***


we spent 2 hours the other night talking about that issue well I should say He talked and I just sat on the other end of the phone on mute and sobbed at just the thought of it like I always have, i'm at the point where I'm loosing sleep over this now because i know the day is coming and i'm about to make another huge sacrafice by moving there in just a couple of months. Like I said I dont know what to do anymore.

***again - why do you call this a sacrifice? it should not be felt like that at all - it should be the most natural thing in the world to be able to be close to your "Master"...if you even feel you are giving up things for him - i'd say you are on the wrong track here...you should only move to another - if you know that it is for a good thing and that it is right for you both...he has said it several times - he will find another to love - how can you possibly serve under these circumstances? For some slaves this works fine - for you it is obvious that it is not working...you will go around being nervous every single day - living in fear for the moment the other woman steps in...what will you do, then?? i know it is hard to leave someone you love - but i am honestly thinking he is not worth it....***

I dont want to leave Him and I wont, I just need to know what to do to make my self fall out of love with this man and just be the slave that I'm suppose to be to Him yet I dont know if I can do that because I feel like the only thing that keeps me going is my love for Him, I' m so attached, I'm so vulnerable and I miss Him so much it's been a month since I've seen Him and each time I leave it doesn't get any easier, I still cry myself to sleep not having His arm around me to feel safe and secure as I fall asleep. I'm just so lost and He's on the phone each night, what's it going to be like when He's not there anymore at all.

***it sounds like a bad thing all around to me.i do not believe your love for him is the only thing that keeps you going..somehow - deep down - i think what you can't have - you want..and is determind to turn him around. Sadly i do not think it is even a remote chance of that happening. Would you accept this from a vanilla boyfriend/love?? i do not think so...and just because you all yourself slave - does not mean you have to stop thinking...you have gotten so many good replies here - but in the end...the only one being able to change it - is you. Could also be that he is a "mental" sadist - that he likes to hear you cry and hurt...and i wonder why he calls every night, if all you do is cry and sob??
1. do you want to be miserable - anxious - and sacrificial in this relationship?
2. do you want to do a clean break - heal and then find the right One for you?***


I'm starting to think our friendship was the worst decision of my life because I know how much pain it will cause me in the end if I dont do something about my feelings now.

***Your friendship was not the worst decision in your life. He obviously helped you a lot  - but i also think - took advantage of your vulnerability. He should be man enough to end this - knowing he can never give you what you ache for...love....***
I want to be His slave, I just dont want to love Him anymore.

***as it is - you DO love him - he does not want that. He has said he will find another he can love - so truth be told - you are the "slave for the time being" - but when he finds "his love" - you will be pushed out into the cold. Be brave - end it now - and do not move there....knowing it is not going to last.That knowledge in itself would be a heavy burden***

ugh..this was longwinded  - sorry...s...i wanted to read your profile also - but it could not be found...

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 10:37:21 AM   
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That's because the initial OP was written in 2005........

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 10:38:45 AM   
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I thought it was '04

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 1:24:48 PM   
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Not to be mean here but he has told you and you are not actually hearing it.

HE DOES NOT WANT YOU.  HE WANTS TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE.
 
Does it suck that he has been utilizing you as his slave knowing he never wanted you? yes
Does it hurt like a bastard to be used? yes

If he truely wanted you in his life and gave a shit about you then age would not matter.
If he cared for you at all he would not have let the relationship get this far. He wants to have his play toy while he looks for the person he wants to share his life with. What person would deny themselves utter devotion while they looked for what they really wanted?

You say you wont leave him, well then all I can say is more the fool is you.

No one can tell you how to fall out of love with someone just like no one can tell you how to fall inlove with someone. But ask yourself this "What has he done to deserve your love?" He has hurt you, he causes you constant pain. He has told you straight out that he does not want you.

My advice. End the relationship IMMEDIATELY!! on your terms. Take the time you need to heal then spend your energy finding someone that actually wants you in their life.

am going to say this one more time

HE TOLD YOU STRAIGHT OUT, NO HOLES BARRED " I DO NOT WANT YOU"  maybe you should listen to him and accept what he is saying as true.

Please move on before you get so depressed you can't function anymore.

Best of luck and I hope you find happiness.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 1:25:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I thought it was '04



OH CRAP!!

I really gotta start checking dates on these things better lol

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 4:55:42 PM   
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smacks self...d'oh.......

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 5:35:28 PM   
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LOL Akisha... I guess your rant applies to me too. Thank you so much for the reality whipping, I really needed it. I know what my true desires are and it isn't to be a toy without being loved. I do believe our talks at least brought the "submissive" me out in the open with the ability to share my darkest thoughts just by a deep dark look or a very stern prompting. It was intriguing while it lasted, but I agree that he is more into risky play and behavior that can either get me fired - or killed in the process (not enough trust built between us).

I will keep myself open for a Dom to find me and I hope to have a wonderful outcome someday. Until then, I will use this board for questions and answers and revel in your support.

Blacklily

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 5:46:32 PM   
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Good evening Darling!
this is why I just could not play with anybody..I needed to be loved and allowed to love that person. If Daddy had said I can never love you or allow myself to love you, then I would have walked away right quick so not to wait around and get hurt. I don't know what to say that already has not been said but I did read something yesterday that did make me sit up and think....yeah about how much my views have changed since I got old! lol but it was something like-

You cannot make people love you.  You cannot make yourself love other people. (true cause I cannot love even some of my own family members!) But it is okay to love someone who will or does not love you. Love does not have to be recipcrocated-even though you may want it to be , it just has to be given. The other person does not even have to be worthy of your love or doesn't even have to know that you love them. Having that love inside you-directed towards another is enough.

So maybe he can just be worhty of receiving your love -for now?? But maybe he's hurt like my Daddy was and it takes time. Then it becomes how long can you hold hope for? If staying is what you really want? Good luck darling.
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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 5:49:00 PM   
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He's already told you he's going to get someone else and push you to the sidelines. He's going to drag the hurt on and on. He doesn't love you. If after all this time he still doesn't then he never will.

So move away to where you do have a support system. That doesn't mean you have to find someone else to collar you right away. You can go on feeling your emotions just the same. But it does mean you won't have to be there while he deliberately hurts you to get you to the point where you leave.

You deserve someone who can love you and accept your love. This man isn't it.

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 6:50:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

quote:

ORIGINAL: blacklily

sorry to unearth an old thread. I have met a man that has proposed a d/s relationship to me. We have insane chemistry, many common sexual interests and desires, are both young, healthy and attractive... I long to serve and he longs to dominate. The arrangement will not be 24/7 due to my obligations to work and taking care of my two sons and his external obligations (which drive the nail in the coffin) - these two factors keep me from moving forward: He is married... he is NOT emotionally available.

I agree that this is a recipe for failure, but I automatically want to please this man... follow behind him like the good little girl I am. This is purely natural between our desires, personalities etc. He approached me at work on day... and here I am.

I have been up all night trying to come to a final decision about this man. There is a proposed session of play this Wednesday after a few days of sporadic play that led up to a nice little chocking/gagging session in the men's bathroom (his first test of my will)..... but I am torn.


I think you know the answer to your questions.  What's keeping you up at night is that you don't like those answers.


agreed cantilena. I feel that I have arrived home. Your insights are such a striking, yet warm welcome to reality.

Light~

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RE: not allowed to love Him what do I do? - 3/24/2009 7:30:43 PM   
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he is NOT emotionally available.


If you want any depth of intimacy in this relationship the fact that he is emotionally unavailable will probably make you a bit nuts.  Not now, while the physical chemistry and sub frenzy is evident, but eventually, when you wonder what is missing from the equation, it will be the fact that he is unavailable and that you can't have a sustainable intimate relationship.


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