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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 8:51:46 AM   
chellekitty


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


I think this is the best explanation I can see.

Give me any subject and 10 random people and you will probably have 10 different points of view based upon their own life experiences. I think it can be a wonderful thing. The problem ends up being, each person has a tendency to only accept their experience, their opinion based upon their experiences, as the "real" one "true" "correct" "real" etcetc etc way.



the color of the sky and the next 10 people who post on this thread (assuming it goes that long) no repeats....

edited for extra punctuation hanging out


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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:08:59 AM   
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Some people jump to conclusions when they project too much of their own experience onto your specific situation.  My personal solution is to just talk about myself and what might seem like a similar situation and let you decide if there's enough similarity for my anecdote to mean anything.  No matter how much anyone says, there are glaring holes in the story.  That's human IMO.  So I assume it.  And when some jumps to conclusions with me? I ignore them.





You pretty much said what i was going to say. La Tigresse and Camille said it as well. Everyone only has their own experiences to go off of. Personally i try to view things from others perspectives as much as possible but, well, i'm only 22 and there's only so much i can do about that. So, like arayofsunshine i think that personal anecdotes tend to be a good way to go. I sometimes wonder, am i talking about myself too much? But i would rather say, this is what i would do in this similar situation and let them take what they want from it then try to tell someone who i barely know what it is that they should do with their life. So HA...THAT is the ONLY true way to offer advice.


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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:12:52 AM   
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they have proven blows to the head are dangerous. slapping or hitting someone in the head is never a good thing


I don't think it took any kind of scientific study to prove blunt force trauma is dangerous, if not fatal. I believe man discovered that the first time a cavewife caught him sneaking home after sunset without two sticks to rub together.

I have temporal lobe damage (can't ya tell? lol ) that now causes issues with deciphering emotions (in person, less so in written word), so in general I try to read and re-read the OP's question and not read the profile of the person or respondents. It is a way of keeping me on balance or on subject and to STOP other superficial thoughts on the subject from coming into play.  I try to read the lines, not between them, until a further explaination is given down the road (thread).  If I have ever jumped to a conclusion, I most likely jumped into a topic in haste and then had to leave the computer quickly and didn't think to come back and adjust my thoughts or apologize for getting the wrong idea. 

In other words, I try to read the content in it's true vocabulary or literal sense, sometimes that is a bad idea/practice too.

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:30:14 AM   
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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:32:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Have you noticed that if someone's going to jump to a conclusion it's almost always negatively? People like to jump to negative conclusions because then they get to "fix" someone's trouble or commiserate with them. People *like* other people to have problems. Makes them feel better about themselves and their situations.

Just my observation of human nature.....

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:33:23 AM   
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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:34:34 AM   
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So you jump to the conclusion that I would waste my money on starbucks when I completely spelled out that I bang my head against the wall.   Sorry but drinking starbucks deviates from SSC and I must assume that you are a wanna be and did not read my post completely or you are unable to read and comprehend.      See how it goes?    Assumptions---good topic.


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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 9:34:40 AM   
came4U


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Status: offline 		how often have you seen anyone 'jumping to a good conclusion'? lol

the term itself is not often associated with a positive reaction to something, even if the action is innocent and clear.

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 10:51:19 AM   
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well, who in the hell would saunter into a conclusion?  It lacks daring----

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 11:28:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sublizzie

Have you noticed that if someone's going to jump to a conclusion it's almost always negatively? People like to jump to negative conclusions because then they get to "fix" someone's trouble or commiserate with them. People *like* other people to have problems. Makes them feel better about themselves and their situations.

Just my observation of human nature.....


I'll tell you about human nature....Mama always said... there is little sense in complaining about anything, 'cuz 30% of the people don't care and the other 70% are glad it happened.

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 11:33:21 AM   
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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 12:26:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sublizzie

Have you noticed that if someone's going to jump to a conclusion it's almost always negatively? People like to jump to negative conclusions because then they get to "fix" someone's trouble or commiserate with them. People *like* other people to have problems. Makes them feel better about themselves and their situations.

Just my observation of human nature.....


I'll tell you about human nature....Mama always said... there is little sense in complaining about anything, 'cuz 30% of the people don't care and the other 70% are glad it happened.


Both of these are great points.  What I notice is that people don't just come to automatic conclusions - they come to automatic catastrophic conclusions.  And I think in part that's because such ugliness is sexy in its own warped way.  Think about it - why do so many women watch Lifetime Television when most of its movies are about kidnapping, rape, cheating, abuse...??

It's that sexy negative thinking.  People are obsessed with it.  Awhile back our boss resigned, at work.  Everyone was soooo worried about who would come in to replace him.  "OMG what if it's WORSE?" was the question most often asked.  To which I would reply, "Ok, but what if it's BETTER?"

Turns out, it was better.

I started a thread awhile back, called I Know You Better Than Your Master Does.  It touched on this - on the trend of assuming the worst and assuming we know what's best for someone, better than a partner in that person's own relationship.  There is a tendency for people to assume something really bad is happening or about to happen. 

I'm with the "ask for clarification" crowd.  I pretty much 'get' that no one can possibly give all the details of a situation in just one small post, so they're giving a synopsis instead.  If what I am reading sounds troubling to me, I'll tend to engage in some Q & A so that I can better understand what's going on.  As one who has received accusations of belonging to an abusive Master (and I don't even ask for advice on these boards), I understand all too well about jumping to erroneous and ridiculous conclusions, based on lack of knowledge.

It's sexy, ya know?

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 1:16:35 PM   
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All of the above posts are in line with my way of thinking.  If the people that do jump to conclusions actually were there at the scene even as a flies on the wall, then they could more accurately voice their opinion on it.  And have the right to do so.

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 1:17:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent thread! 

I do think that people are sometimes quick to conclude something bad happened and happy about it because they have a negative view of the world, have a need to judge others in general and like to worry. 

It's also a bit of a control thing - my ex used to judge everything in a negative light, even something as simple as the path to the corner store (who really cares!), unless it was done exactly the way he thought should be done and always gave unasked for advice without getting all the details because the assumption was that you obviously don't know what you were doing and need help. His way was always the best and only way! 

I prefer to assume the opposite - expect that you are responsible, competent and can be trusted until I find out otherwise (maybe I'm too naive). Even then, if something seems odd, it's better to ask for clarification.

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 3:39:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed. People aren't as open to others' situations, or they don't understand. If you don't understand, just ask someone to clarify!!



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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 3:43:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: came4U

how often have you seen anyone 'jumping to a good conclusion'? lol

the term itself is not often associated with a positive reaction to something, even if the action is innocent and clear.


I agree, people in general jump to negative conclusions, rarely posititve ones.
So people should not be that shocked when it happens to them online.

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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 4:39:18 PM   
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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 4:51:18 PM   
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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 7:31:16 PM   
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RE: Jumping to conclusions !! - 9/8/2007 7:37:23 PM   
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