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salted burger - 9/10/2007 4:16:51 AM   
aviinterra


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Status: offline 		Oh heavens, I am back in the U.S. after vacationing and this is what one comes back to- an oversalted burger leads to a night in jail.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070909/ap_on_fe_st/odd_salty_burger

I agree with the girl that worked there, if the guy did not notice how bad the burger was after a few bites, then it was his willing choice to finish the whole thing. Sending an oversalted burger to the state crime lab for tests? Come on people, grow up and get some backbone!
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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 4:23:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is a bit idiotic.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 4:33:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, it is only adding to the tide of what seems to be odd news that has been lately taken as the 'real' news by a lot of folks. Kind of disturbing, actually. 

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 4:34:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I heard about it on televison this morning.  It's completely ridiculous, and I hope the judge throws this out as soon as it hits his desk.  After that, I hope the citizens of this town demand that they fire this jerkoff for wasting taypayer's money on this nonsense.  I imagine the guy is some fat, disgusting glutton that wolfed the burger down in two bites.  That's why he didn't taste all the salt. 

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 6:04:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: aviinterra

Oh heavens, I am back in the U.S. after vacationing and this is what one comes back to- an oversalted burger leads to a night in jail.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070909/ap_on_fe_st/odd_salty_burger

I agree with the girl that worked there, if the guy did not notice how bad the burger was after a few bites, then it was his willing choice to finish the whole thing. Sending an oversalted burger to the state crime lab for tests? Come on people, grow up and get some backbone!



Which was it - did he finish the whole thing, or did he send the unfinished portion off to the state crime lab?

It seems like you're trying to have it both ways.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 6:59:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		It seems that the whole batch of hamburger meat had been oversalted. The girl that served it says she ate one and felt fine. 

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 7:22:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is very petty on the officers part.  Someone needs to remind him that while he was wasting his and everyone elses time with this somewhere there was a real crime that needed attention.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 7:30:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		The police officer seems to have a point.  Not exactly a noble point, but a point nonetheless.

$1,000 does seem like a steep fine; something more like $100 would've been plenty.  Hell, if she works at Mccy D's, $50's would still be a lot; that'd probably be more appropriate.  Then again, I find many "justice" system-imposed penalties to be excessive.

$50 likely wouldn't cover the crime lab fees for processing it.  I just wouldn't have bothered with the crime lab unless further evidence is needed.

Since the restraunt manager was informed, and this is also largely his decision, I'd fine him equally (if not slightly more, ~$80 or ~$100).

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 7:38:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am sorry CL.  but what exactly is his point?  Other than being petty and idiotic I can't find one, certainly not one that should lead to arrest.  He could ask for his money back, ask for another meal. something reasonable maybe. 

Its officers like this who can't understand why they have no respect.  duh

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 7:54:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Salt is nothing but a silent killer anyway.  Why use it?  If they had banned the use of salt...they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.

I agree, stupid story.  However, If I were dying of heart disease....I could sue everyone for putting too much sodium in everything I ate most of my life couldn't I?
Same as the tobacco company lawsuits.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 7:58:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		The manager knew, tried to fix it (wiping off the salt lol) so IMO it is he that holds the responsibility. She should not have spent the night in jail over this crap.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:04:49 AM   
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I am sorry CL.  but what exactly is his point?


A ton of salt in a food where it's not normally found could be a health risk.  Someone too zoned out (which I could empathize with) could eat it without noticing the taste (who tries to notice the taste when they're eatting fast food, anyhow?).  Having heard plenty of hospital stories, I know that these things can really hurt some peoples' health in odd ways.

I do agree that the punishment- the steep fine and the criminal charges- do seem over-the-top.  They might be justified if his burger was truly at a salt level that would make it dangerous to a common individual eatting it.  (Sure, someone could probably taste that much salt, but people really shouldn't have to worry about such things when they're ordering food.  Too much salt is one thing, but if it's actually enough to make someone sick?  I suppose this is why they're sending it off to the lab.)

Again, I'd just have given her about a $50 fine and told her to be more careful.  I do think that the reaction's over-the-top; but, at the same time, it sounds like the mistake in the order may've been worse than forgetting to hold the mayo.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:13:14 AM   
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$1,000 does seem like a steep fine; something more like $100 would've been plenty.  Hell, if she works at Mccy D's, $50's would still be a lot; that'd probably be more appropriate.  Then again, I find many "justice" system-imposed penalties to be excessive.


She hasn't been fined anything yet.  The $1000 was to bond out of jail.  She probably went through a bondsman, so it cost her around $100.  She is going to have to hire a lawyer if she wants to fight this, and that is going to cost her about $1000.  If she is lucky, a good lawyer in her town will take this pro bono.  What this police officer did was petty and foolish.  I could see this as a valid arrest if the girl did it on purpose just out of spite for the police.  But she didn't; it was an accident. 

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:22:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		She is only 20 years old.
Her manager knew about the meat.
She didn't work the drivethru window so she had no idea on who got the saltburger.

Petty little angry cop IMO and I hope it backfires on him. She did not sell the burger and the meat was okayed by her manager so IMO it should fall on the manager.

Poor kid.

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:27:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, looks like I mistook the bail for a fine.

I do wonder, though, what would it be saying if the police found the restraunt serving burgers with a potientially dangerous salt level and did nothing about it?  Just turning in the burger for a new one strikes me as being too soft on this particular case as it could have legitimately endangered someone, assuming that the salt level really was that high (I'm assuming that it was more than a mild distaste in good faith for the arresting officer; thankfully, the court will have more solid evidence to go off of via the crime lab).

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:40:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry CL,  but give me a break.  This is not about protecting the public from salt.  It is about a petty little officer who needed to be put in his place.  If a resuraunt were found to be serving burgers with "dangerous " salt levels it would not be their job to do anything.  the Department of Public Health would be the ones to handle it.  This was not and never should have been a criminal matter.  

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:48:45 AM   
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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 8:50:56 AM   
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Sorry CL,  but give me a break.
Hah, no need for the "Sorry"'s.  We have a difference of opinion, and I'm not entirely sure that immediately dismissing any wrong-doing would be a good idea.  I'm a bit confused by the indifference you seem to be showing.

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This is not about protecting the public from salt.  It is about a petty little officer who needed to be put in his place.  If a resuraunt were found to be serving burgers with "dangerous " salt levels it would not be their job to do anything.  the Department of Public Health would be the ones to handle it.  This was not and never should have been a criminal matter.


What.. would the Department of Public Health do..?  Send an investigator a couple weeks later when there's probably not a problem?

To me, the girl messed up in a way that could've caused someone problems.  They didn't go about handling it in a great way.  To me, a fine large enough to actually cause them to be more careful yet not to truly punish them is in order.

Unless, of course, the crime lab comes back that the meat was just a bit over salted.  Then she'll just be off the hook.

Alright, enough "sorry"'s.  :P

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 9:05:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

I do wonder, though, what would it be saying if the police found the restraunt serving burgers with a potientially dangerous salt level and did nothing about it? 


McDonalds has long been known to buy the lowest quality cuts of meat with the highest fat content. 
One could say the same thing about a company who doesn't care if they kill one of their patrons or not.

What should the police do?

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RE: salted burger - 9/10/2007 9:14:09 AM   
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It was not, is not, nor should have been a criminal matter.  To judge it as one was abusive and over reaching by a fool with a badge.  When some idiot such as this takes someone to jail over something this petty it demeans and undermines every officer who is out their actually trying to do his job.

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