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ORIGINAL: toservez

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

The only valid way I can see of doing this is with the express idea of increasing the depth of acceptance partners have for each other. There really is a lot of trust involved with letting someone play with your head this way............it takes a lot of story telling and understanding to make it flow-rather than shatter.

In short-it's a poor choice for those who's kink is brute force-finesse will make it far more successful.

Sorry but this is a to each their own thing and just because you do not enjoy it or know/heard people who cannot handle it does not go into a “should only be done” or “look out this is dangerous” type distinction. Sorry but this plays into projecting worse case scenarios and personal images of play. This play is no different then others and is based on both people being able to handle it and knowing themselves.

Of course this play is not for everyone and has risk. EVERY type of play is not for everyone and has risk. Why is it that people in this life can talk about giving and inflicting physical pain without these types of judgments clogging up the works. After all, there are huge mental issues at work in that type of play as well.

Sorry it can be to learn but it can also be just great fun, just like all the kinks discussed on here!

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: toservez
Of course this play is not for everyone and has risk. EVERY type of play is not for everyone and has risk. Why is it that people in this life can talk about giving and inflicting physical pain without these types of judgments clogging up the works. After all, there are huge mental issues at work in that type of play as well.

Sorry it can be to learn but it can also be just great fun, just like all the kinks discussed on here!

I didn't really see a negative judgment in that post, actually.  I saw a concern that humiliation could cause emotional damage if not handled correctly.  I'm usually not one to where a Safety Police cap, either, but I guess having been mishandled in the past with this activity has made me particularly sensitive to it.  Perhaps because of my own past issues I'm incorrectly biased in thinking there is a greater risk at fucking up someone's head by telling them what a skank pig they are, than by hitting them with a paddle.  In sincere honesty, I had not considered it.

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ORIGINAL: toservez

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: toservez
Of course this play is not for everyone and has risk. EVERY type of play is not for everyone and has risk. Why is it that people in this life can talk about giving and inflicting physical pain without these types of judgments clogging up the works. After all, there are huge mental issues at work in that type of play as well.

Sorry it can be to learn but it can also be just great fun, just like all the kinks discussed on here!

I didn't really see a negative judgment in that post, actually.  I saw a concern that humiliation could cause emotional damage if not handled correctly.  I'm usually not one to where a Safety Police cap, either, but I guess having been mishandled in the past with this activity has made me particularly sensitive to it.  Perhaps because of my own past issues I'm incorrectly biased in thinking there is a greater risk at fucking up someone's head by telling them what a skank pig they are, than by hitting them with a paddle.  In sincere honesty, I had not considered it.

But that is part of the problem we personalize everything and the things we do not like, are afraid of and have bad personal reactions to too many people then move into what RRafe wrote in the look out and only should be done and back it up with worse case scenarios and paint picture of people wandering into something in a half ass and ignorant way.

I am sorry as I have respect for safety concerns but not when they are attached to personal judgments and preferences. Humiliation play is just like pain play with degrees of severity and to make blanket opinions based on worse case scenarios or only thinking about severe play with people not prepared does a disservice in my .02 opinion.

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ORIGINAL: toservez

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: toservez
Of course this play is not for everyone and has risk. EVERY type of play is not for everyone and has risk. Why is it that people in this life can talk about giving and inflicting physical pain without these types of judgments clogging up the works. After all, there are huge mental issues at work in that type of play as well.

Sorry it can be to learn but it can also be just great fun, just like all the kinks discussed on here!

I didn't really see a negative judgment in that post, actually.  I saw a concern that humiliation could cause emotional damage if not handled correctly.  I'm usually not one to where a Safety Police cap, either, but I guess having been mishandled in the past with this activity has made me particularly sensitive to it.  Perhaps because of my own past issues I'm incorrectly biased in thinking there is a greater risk at fucking up someone's head by telling them what a skank pig they are, than by hitting them with a paddle.  In sincere honesty, I had not considered it.

But that is part of the problem we personalize everything and the things we do not like, are afraid of and have bad personal reactions to too many people then move into what RRafe wrote in the look out and only should be done and back it up with worse case scenarios and paint picture of people wandering into something in a half ass and ignorant way.

I am sorry as I have respect for safety concerns but not when they are attached to personal judgments and preferences. Humiliation play is just like pain play with degrees of severity and to make blanket opinions based on worse case scenarios or only thinking about severe play with people not prepared does a disservice in my .02 opinion.

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ORIGINAL: toservez
But that is part of the problem we personalize everything and the things we do not like, are afraid of and have bad personal reactions to too many people then move into what RRafe wrote in the look out and only should be done and back it up with worse case scenarios and paint picture of people wandering into something in a half ass and ignorant way.

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I am sorry as I have respect for safety concerns but not when they are attached to personal judgments and preferences. Humiliation play is just like pain play with degrees of severity and to make blanket opinions based on worse case scenarios or only thinking about severe play with people not prepared does a disservice in my .02 opinion.