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interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 4:35:51 AM   
canupleaseme


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I am looking for some advice really about planning an interogation scenes.  Its something I havent done before, ive seen odd pictures and read brief dicussions on here in the past but its something that has recently seemed more and more appealing..

Can anyone recommend any good reading material or sites for ideas?  Or does anyone have a passion for this and would be willing to talk to me a bit about it?


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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 4:56:50 AM   
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Professional training in Interrogation and investigative techniques: http://www.w-z.com/ - with an upcoming seminar in London, no less.

Declassified (i.e. old) CIA howto: http://www.kimsoft.com/2000/kubark.htm

Global Security: http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/policy/army/fm/fm34-52/app-h.htm

Some techniques described through American media outlet ABC: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=1322866

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 5:17:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's not often that I get asked for this lately, but I used to do it in combination with other things...

Generally, it was a pretty complicated scenario arranged by someone's partner as a "gift". Generally, there'd be some sort of stalking activity to build a sense of terror (they're watching me) in the "bottom". This phase would end with someone passing off some object that would be the target of the interrogation (blank 35mm film or a Zip-disc, generally) - something they'd know that they have. Not long after (1-2 days, conveniently timed for a weekend generally), I'd abduct them (takedown, martial-style shibari aka hojojiitsu or torinawajitsu, trunking) and take them to a place for the interrogation. And often, I'd use techniques as described in my previous post but without much use of the actual compounds (an eyedropper of Chartreuse simulates LSD real well)... This would be extended as far as possible before they actually broke down and revealed the location of the target object - which is pretty easy to tell if you pay attention to the physical cues.

At that point, I'd signal the victim/bottom's partner to come in as loudly as possible and "beat the shit out of me" for the rescue phase... which generally culminated with some pretty hot sex for them. My identity would be revealed and the game was known... and all had good laughs.

Loads of fun!

Oh shit! I just realized where this was posted! Ignore me and my maleness, thankyouverymuch...

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 6:02:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: e01n

Oh shit! I just realized where this was posted! Ignore me and my maleness, thankyouverymuch...


There is no law that only Mistresses can post here e01n!  The info is very interesting...



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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 6:26:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch: There is no law that only Mistresses can post here e01n!
But it IS a matter of good taste to refrain accordingly...

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 7:37:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thankyou for your response, indeed any answersxs are welcome.  I will have a look at the links cheers.  I think I will be interogating him for a word rather than an object and dont have the oppourtunity to go into it in as much depth as you just described mbut it sounded good 

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 7:44:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		As an ex-army interrogator I can tell you that most of what you may learn about real world interrogation techniques would likely surprise you and not fit into the atmosphere and mood I suspect you are trying to create. 

I reccomend the movie "Closetland" if you want some good ideas.

Feel free to ask if you have any other questions.

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 7:54:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thankyou I shall have a look for that.   Im certainly not wanting to create a full on army type scene I just want to (playfully) tourture him into telling me.  

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 7:54:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why does an interrogation scene have to be about some object that the submissive is hiding? 
 
Why not scenes where they're interrogated about their past, secret desires they may have, what they find most desirable/attractive in their Domme, or have their submission to their Domme questioned by her based on some example she cites that happened recently?  The Domme then tells her sub that his answer is incorrect and it must be answer B, and proceeds along those lines with the sub trying to explain why it is not and attempting to convince his Domme/Interrogator that it really is A, C or D, etc.  She continues to interrogate and torment him at the same time with various implements or means of her choice.  It's a test of his will and resolve to be true and honest in his answers to her, with him eventually begging for her mercy (assuming that's what turns her on and she wants to bring him to that point) if the need arises in him for relief from what she's putting him through. 
 
Am I missing something here or are we talking about entirely totally different kinds of interrogation scenes?  I presume they don't have to involve a 3rd party and could be just as hot between a sub and their own Domme if the right material were chosen for the interrogation?   At least I believe something as I've described would be very hot for me and perhaps other subs as well. 
 
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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 7:58:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VegasSadist: I reccomend the movie "Closetland" if you want some good ideas.
I forgot that one...

A great Alan Rickman line from it: "Your best hope would be to de-personalize what follows and not to look upon me as a foe or yourself as a victim. Remember, we are both seekers of truth, and in this quest, I am your friend, philosopher, and guide."

SPOILER: what is interesting is that at one point, he fails and switches roles... that happens, too - but very rarely in real life. Unless it's done deliberately.

As to real life interrogation and "play" interrogation being incompatible in atmosphere, I disagree... fear is a great tool to pull someone out of conventional mindset and into a more malleable altered state of consciousness. And once they're there, it's a short hop skip and jump into subspace...

Then again, I'm more about playing RACK and edgy than SSC. YMMV.

Oh, and the object focus: since I was often doing this with people who had some media-fed fascination with espionage and spies, the object as target worked well with those scenarios. Someone bumps into you and slips a can of film into your pocket, you get a bit curious about it... builds some tension. Me grabbing you and throwing you into the trunk of the car REALLY starts things going sideways in your mind...

A word could be used. So could having seen something... But the object idea was much more "cinematic" and more easily worked into "abduction weekends"...

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 8:00:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		The scene Im talking about it defintly between just me and my boy.  we both love the idea of him having some kind of word or sentance that he cant say to me and having me try and get it out of him in any way possible.  I know if I tied him up and tickled him for ten minutes he would tell me lol but I want to make it fun.  Incorporate CBT spittig cold water etc Its just not something ive seen being done before and I guess I have no idea how to start off etc.

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 8:07:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: canupleaseme: The scene Im talking about it defintly between just me and my boy. we both love the idea of him having some kind of word or sentance that he cant say to me and having me try and get it out of him in any way possible. I know if I tied him up and tickled him for ten minutes he would tell me lol but I want to make it fun. Incorporate CBT spittig cold water etc Its just not something ive seen being done before and I guess I have no idea how to start off etc.
Speech restrictions can be fun... look for those as well.

Idea: the forbidden phrase is also safeword for something already known to be pleasurable... just don't stop until he actually says to - with the forbidden phrase. Nice way into eroto-comatose lucidity as well...

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 8:08:52 AM   
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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 8:23:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		The point for an interrogation scene for me is not to find out anything whatsoever - we're playing after all.

Generally I get rather creative with it all - coming up with some scenario which is totally fictional and unknown to the subject. We then proceed through me asking questions to find out what I already know - and which of course, he doesnt. Naturally, I get lots of "wrong answers", denials and so on - 'cause the poor thing has no idea what on earth it is I want him to confess to ultimately. It requires a bit of skill to steer it in the right direction, but really not that much. I'm in total control, and the "wrong answers" and denials play right into my evil sadistic hands of course.

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 2:09:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		This seems to be the topic of conversation lately. I just spoke with someone on this same topic! I have no experience with interrogation in a BDSM context, but I am familiar with interrogation tactics.

They want to break you down with a few things, length of time of the interrogation, denial of comforts (cold room with little clothing, uncomfortable chair, no water or food for about 7 hours), then they do the mental breakdown which is sort of a mind game. They will ask you questions to which the answer will always be wrong. Asking questions with circular logic to produce confusion, etc. Accusing you of preposterous things and then using confusing and circular logic to get you to admit to it, even if you didn't do it.  Then once the victim, err, I mean person is finally broken down, the thought is that you can get them to admit to whatever it is you're trying to get out of them. I think this would be more fun if there was actually something you wanted to get out of the person, and not just a scene done for play purposes.

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 2:21:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are two approaches to interrogation. One is a mindfuck that goes for as much realism as possible (a third unknown party abducts and interrogates) while the second is an interrogation role play.

One time at band camp I participated in an interrogation role play. I was abducted at gun point of a squirt gun while walking the dog of the domme and thrown into the trunk. Once tied to a chair she would hold up a given number of fingers and ask me how many fingers was she holding. I would respond. She would reject the answer and continue the interrogation. In the end, she finally accepted an answer and told me she did not know what the right answer was going to be. She had planned to proceed until I gave an answer that she liked. The effectiveness of this approach is greatest when one does not know what her strategy is. That is, knowing that she is going to keep asking until one gives an answer she likes will not be as effective as not knowing why she is rejecting the answer.

One conversation I had about interrogation suggested that interrogating for information about which a person holds guilt could backfire as it could ruin the mood or bring up negative emotions. Others' mileage may vary.

One idea I had was for the sub to get two tickets to a concert or an event the sub really wants to attend and to hide them somewhere. If he holds out for a given period of time (which could be disclosed, or undisclosed and sealed in an envelope before the interrogation begins), he goes to attend the event with the domme. If he does not, she goes with her girlfriend or, if it is a cuckold situation, her boyfriend.

Cheers,

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 2:40:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea: One conversation I had about interrogation suggested that interrogating for information about which a person holds guilt could backfire as it could ruin the mood or bring up negative emotions. Others' mileage may vary.
This is where some artistry/sadism comes in - it can be an incredibly cathartic experience for them, having it dragged out and exposed. And like any other cathartic experience, it can really ruin someone if done without "loving harshness". If the response of the interrogator is to keep pressing that said object of guilt/shame is not unique, there can be some lasting benefit...

As to ruining the mood, I don't know about that: when I was doing this, my goal generally was to make them break down *almost* to the point of revealing all. When that wasn't the goal, when I was doing it for fun and my own pleasure and not the filthy lucre, such a cathartic moment was good... it meant that psychic blocks between us were being destroyed, and since I was sharing that she was not alone, it changed the dynamic a bit. Made having sex right then a bit difficult, but there's more to WIITWD than sex.

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 5:25:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read a scene report one time where they lived together and she bought some of those kid letter magnets and put them on the fridge. He got used to seeing them there and ignored them. Came the interrogation scene she demanded he tell her what the magnets spelled out. Of course he had no idea so he couldn't win and the scene went on until she finally got tired. A good time was had by both.

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RE: interogation scenes - 9/11/2007 7:30:09 PM   
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One idea I had was for the sub to get two tickets to a concert or an event the sub really wants to attend and to hide them somewhere. If he holds out for a given period of time (which could be disclosed, or undisclosed and sealed in an envelope before the interrogation begins), he goes to attend the event with the domme. If he does not, she goes with her girlfriend or, if it is a cuckold situation, her boyfriend.


Oooh! I like the way you think!

*makes a note for own purposes later*


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RE: interogation scenes - 9/12/2007 5:38:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: iammachine
*makes a note for own purposes later*


Do you know which concert it will be? ;-)

Since there are Texans participating in this forum, I should point out that there is an unwritten rule that one's idea should not be used against him so as to allow future flow of creativity freely ;-)

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