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samboct -> RE: Moveon.org's Ad Mocking Petraeus (9/14/2007 5:40:20 AM)
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Sorry Fargle
Don't think that Jon Stewart's produced a smoking gun. If you ask two students to write a paper on Shakespeare's Hamlet, you'd expect them to use words like "tragedy, bloodbath, irony, soliloquy, suicide" etc. because it's the same topic. So when Petraeus uses words like "catastrophe, force, Anbar province" etc., I don't think it really proves he's a Bushie Stoogie. Maybe you could make a case for plagiarism, but it doesn't seem likely.
I know that there was a whisper campaign (well, more of a shouting from the rooftops) that he's the right guy for the job- didn't he write the book on this type of operation? So is it so surprising that the administration is pinning their hopes on this guy? Seems to me that for a change, they may have actually picked a decent guy. I know, it's a shocking concept given their track record to date, but it is just barely possible.
I think the posters like Simply Michael and Caitlyn (and I guess Firm too, which is a little scary [:)]) are also agreeing with me that by slashing at this guy, we just continue the rift between both sides of the aisle. I want the troops out of Iraq as quickly as possible- I think this war was a terrible mistake and I haven't changed my position from prior to the calls for invasion. But if we want to get our troops out of there, it makes sense to agree that Petraeus is the best guy for the job- then set some metrics and make him agree that they're valid metrics- and that if they're not being met- we leave. Calling the guy a Bushie Stoogie right now is just gonna make everyone dig in their heels. Remember, our imbecile President can't ever think of a single example of when he's been wrong, although he knows he's made mistakes. (I remember this quote from the second set of debates.) He's like the Fonz- he can't say he's been "wron....." Yes, he's a jerk, and yes he's costing people's lives. But pragmatically, I want our guys out of Iraq, and I think the best way to do it is by agreeing that Petraeus is the right guy for the job- and making him stick to a timetable.
Alternatively, I think impeaching Bush is a wonderful idea- but that seems to be less likely than being able to hold Petraeus to a timetable.
In short- while we may disagree with the administration and its supporters, we need to find a way to work together. If we just continue to bicker, our troops and lots of Iraqis are going to be dead. OK, I suspect the reality is that when we pull out, Iraq turns into a bloodbath. I'm reminded of Kissinger's comment on the Iran/Iraq war when asked which side would the US prefer to be victorious? His reply- "Better zey bos should lose." I think he got his wish.
Sam
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