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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

It's a small state.

Care to tell us about the "Free State Project"?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

   The link wasn't working.  Try this one.

http://www.freestateproject.org/    


  It's an interesting idea.  I suspect there might have been a bong in the room when they came up with it. "Dude! What if all the cool people, like, all moved to one place, and, this is the best part, all, like, voted for the same people?  We could fuckin' take over!"  Fun to toss around the lava lamp, but probably doomed to failure if it ever got off the ground.

    I see backlash.  The people who have called NH 'home' their whole lives might not be thrilled to have 'the best and brightest' move in down the road with plans to take over.  I'm reminded of a religious group/cult that tried to take political control of a rural area by bringing in hundreds of homeless and registering them to vote (before the snarky embarass themselves, the cult also poisoned the food in buffets with salmonella to keep residents from the polls on election day).  All they did was lose an election AND bring down a local/state/federal investigation which destroyed the group.  Granted, that is a worst case, for the topic.

    Those 20,000 might like the way of life, but they wouldn't know the culture that spawned it.  Worse, despite no real understanding of the unique regional system, they'll be out to "improve" on it.  I can't imagine that sitting well with people who like things just the way they are.

     Leaving the madness, joining a small community with a great quality of life, living well and freely...  Who wouldn't want that?  Doing it to forment revolution?  Did they miss the part about everybody having guns?

 

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ORIGINAL: Casie

In case you don't know what the free state project you can cheak it out here freestateproject.org. Wondering what people who already live in NH think about this? Are you opposed to it? Do you welcome 20,000 new liberty loving NH citizens? I don't live there but I imagen the biggest consern would be jobs. With so many people moving to one place, looking for new jobs and housing there may be some issues. So fire away.......

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It's an interesting idea.

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ORIGINAL: Casie

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

  The link wasn't working.  Try this one.

http://www.freestateproject.org/    


It's an interesting idea.  I suspect there might have been a bong in the room when they came up with it. "Dude! What if all the cool people, like, all moved to one place, and, this is the best part, all, like, voted for the same people?  We could fuckin' take over!"  Fun to toss around the lava lamp, but probably doomed to failure if it ever got off the ground.

   I see backlash.  The people who have called NH 'home' their whole lives might not be thrilled to have 'the best and brightest' move in down the road with plans to take over.  I'm reminded of a religious group/cult that tried to take political control of a rural area by bringing in hundreds of homeless and registering them to vote (before the snarky embarass themselves, the cult also poisoned the food in buffets with salmonella to keep residents from the polls on election day).  All they did was lose an election AND bring down a local/state/federal investigation which destroyed the group.  Granted, that is a worst case, for the topic.

   Those 20,000 might like the way of life, but they wouldn't know the culture that spawned it.  Worse, despite no real understanding of the unique regional system, they'll be out to "improve" on it.  I can't imagine that sitting well with people who like things just the way they are.

    Leaving the madness, joining a small community with a great quality of life, living well and freely...  Who wouldn't want that?  Doing it to forment revolution?  Did they miss the part about everybody having guns?

They choose NH because they are already so tolernt of libertarians. There are currently 30 libertarians in office there. Hell there motto is Live free or die. Which defintally embodies the libertarian mind set. And Libertarians are VERY pro-gun. ?They are constitution loving ppl!!

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

   The link wasn't working.  Try this one.

http://www.freestateproject.org/    


  It's an interesting idea.  I suspect there might have been a bong in the room when they came up with it. "Dude! What if all the cool people, like, all moved to one place, and, this is the best part, all, like, voted for the same people?  We could fuckin' take over!"  Fun to toss around the lava lamp, but probably doomed to failure if it ever got off the ground.

    I see backlash.  The people who have called NH 'home' their whole lives might not be thrilled to have 'the best and brightest' move in down the road with plans to take over.  I'm reminded of a religious group/cult that tried to take political control of a rural area by bringing in hundreds of homeless and registering them to vote (before the snarky embarass themselves, the cult also poisoned the food in buffets with salmonella to keep residents from the polls on election day).  All they did was lose an election AND bring down a local/state/federal investigation which destroyed the group.  Granted, that is a worst case, for the topic.

    Those 20,000 might like the way of life, but they wouldn't know the culture that spawned it.  Worse, despite no real understanding of the unique regional system, they'll be out to "improve" on it.  I can't imagine that sitting well with people who like things just the way they are.

     Leaving the madness, joining a small community with a great quality of life, living well and freely...  Who wouldn't want that?  Doing it to forment revolution?  Did they miss the part about everybody having guns?

 

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
I'm reminded of a religious group/cult that tried to take political control of a rural area by bringing in hundreds of homeless and registering them to vote (before the snarky embarass themselves, the cult also poisoned the food in buffets with salmonella to keep residents from the polls on election day).  All they did was lose an election AND bring down a local/state/federal investigation which destroyed the group.  Granted, that is a worst case, for the topic.

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ORIGINAL: petdave

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
I'm reminded of a religious group/cult that tried to take political control of a rural area by bringing in hundreds of homeless and registering them to vote (before the snarky embarass themselves, the cult also poisoned the food in buffets with salmonella to keep residents from the polls on election day).  All they did was lose an election AND bring down a local/state/federal investigation which destroyed the group.  Granted, that is a worst case, for the topic.

Where was that? Sounds like an interesting study, but i've never heard of it before.

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Rajneesh, a West Coast cult led by a charismatic Indian guru, bought tens of thousands of acres of land near the town of Antelope, Oregon in the early 1980s. Their new utopia was named Rancho Rajneesh, but friction soon developed between the townspeople and the red-robed cultists. Things got worse when it was learned that the Rajneesh were bussing in homeless people while simultaneously trying to poison the townspeople with salmonella -- an attempt to throw local elections in the Rajneeshee's favor. Open warfare seemed possible, but then the guru tried (and failed) to flee the country. Rajneesh quickly collapsed. Thousands of leaderless followers melted back into American society, and the utopia was abandoned. Most of its surviving buildings were destroyed in a 1996 range fire, and in 1999 the property was sold to a Christian youth group. All that remains to mark that time is a plaque at the base of the Antelope post office flagpole: "Dedicated to those of this community who, through the Rajneesh invasion and occupation of 1981-85, remained, resisted, and remembered."

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ORIGINAL: petdave

One of the ideas behind the Free State Project is that a lot of libertarian types are entrepreneurs and small-business owners. Not everyone has to hope that someone will give them a job, some go with the idea that they will find a need and fill it, or bring an existing business and find new employees or continue an individual enterprise.

There's a saying that "all politics are ultimately local"... Aside from siphoning money and making it difficult for you to buy things, the Fed doesn't intrude into day-to-day life as much as state and local governments do.

In developing the project, they deliberately picked a state that was already amenable to libertarian ideals... some of the most relaxed firearms laws in the country, "Live Free or Die", rela/tively low population density, etc. But, yeah, the snow thing is a killer South Carolina was in the running, but no... Instead we get some kind of fundamentalist Christian group that wants to do the same thing! Sigh...