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glassdoll -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/14/2007 3:18:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BeachMystress First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one. Of the three dozen or so real time Domme I know and see on a semi regular basis, only two of them have queening as a fetish. That's a pretty low percentage. I was surprised to hear from some of them that they don't like oral sex ever. Top that off with the fact that while there are Domme who enjoy oral sex, many of you guys aren't that great at it. (I once found a guy who was AWESOME at oral sex and he became "famous" and in high demand among our friends.. Unless a man is THAT good or unless I'm willing to spend the many hours of teaching him what really works and what is dull for me, I didn't bother queening much. To be blunt, most men are better with fingers or penis than tongue.) I constantly get mail from men telling me how much time they'd spend giving me oral pleasure and how they'd clean and suck and... And my profile says non sexual only. Pay better attention to what the woman wants. It is very unlikely that a lesbian wants to queen you. I have a friend who served a pair of lesbian Domme for a time. He never has sex with his Dominant regardless of their sexual orientation (one of his hard limits) so that wasn't an issue. The problem was since neither woman liked men, they really were not interested in playing with a male (even though play HAD been negotiated.) He was continually put off when asked about play times. They kept telling him that time and place was for the Dommes to decide. After three months of doing all their housework, dinner cooking, laundry, car maintenance, outside chores, running their errands and buying over $2500 in groceries he was given one scene, very lackadaisically by one of the couple rather than both as negotiated. He finally asked to speak with them about the situation. They laughed at him and told him that he was doing exactly what they wanted and he should be happy at merely getting to be around two gorgeous women who had sex with each other. He pointed out that in the written negotiations they had agreed to provide specific things such as humiliation during certain chores, a once a month shopping outing "with the girls" where he would be dressed (he is fairly passable) and a weekly play session with both women either together or separately as they wished. They told him he was stupid for thinking they'd hold up their end of the bargain. They told him he was a disgusting low life male who didn't deserve fair treatment because they just KNEW he'd mistreated some woman or another in his past. They told him he had just been taught the true meaning of humiliation and they knew he just loved it, so shut up and go get dinner ready. He asked if they ever intended to fulfill their end of the written agreement. They laughed again and told him they'd not intended to honor the agreement from the moment it was written and they sure didn't intend to do anything as yucky as play with a stinky-pig male. They were surprised when he told them that he'd no longer be serving them. It turns out that they'd pulled the exact same thing before and most of the men stuck around for months after having "this little chat" with the women. (These women look like the lesbians in most male fantasies. Both women were gorgeous.. one blue eyed blonde the other green eyed redhead both of them slender, soft in the right places, curvy and feminine looking.) My friend ended up very hurt emotionally and had trust issues for quite some time. He's the only man I've ever know who served lesbians instead of bisexual women. (I know two bisexual couples who keep pets. One has a male and female the other has a male. The relationship is nonsexual for the men. While both men are used for bondage and flogging, neither of them ever gets near any sexual area of their owner. One of the guys has a foot fetish and is not allowed to touch his Mistress's feet, because he's to get nothing sexual from them.) My feeling on the matter, though I wasn't cruel enough to tell it to him at the time, was that when something seems too good to be true.. it probably is. That is horrible. I feel sympathy for him, but then, the realm of a lesbian having a male slave is only real in the porn industry.

Drifa -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/14/2007 5:57:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BeachMystress First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one. I realize, reading over this, that I have no idea what "Queening" consists of... enlighten me, please? quote: ORIGINAL: BeachMystress I was surprised to hear from some of them that they don't like oral sex ever. Top that off with the fact that while there are Domme who enjoy oral sex, many of you guys aren't that great at it. (I once found a guy who was AWESOME at oral sex and he became "famous" and in high demand among our friends.. Unless a man is THAT good or unless I'm willing to spend the many hours of teaching him what really works and what is dull for me, I didn't bother queening much. To be blunt, most men are better with fingers or penis than tongue.) While my Lady is exclusively lesbian, I myself am at least nominally bi (I've been with my Lady 14 years and no men during that time, aside from some online play). So for me, I could imagine some of the OP's scenario. But the idea of a guy wanting to provide "oral service" just leaves me cold. In general, the worst woman I've been with has been better than the average man at cunnilingus. I have known maybe two men who were halfway good at oral sex, and the best women I've had the pleasure to play with were so far better than the best guys that there is simply no comparison. And OMFG my Lady rocks my world in that department ;-) But since any dual domination would have to be something my Lady wanted, there's no way such a situation will ever arise in our life. quote: ORIGINAL: BeachMystress I have a friend who served a pair of lesbian Domme for a time. He never has sex with his Dominant regardless of their sexual orientation (one of his hard limits) so that wasn't an issue. The problem was since neither woman liked men, they really were not interested in playing with a male (even though play HAD been negotiated.) I really don't like this either. My feeling is that if you have negotiated an agreement, you stick to the agreement. Otherwise these two gals just were being sadistic in a way that had not been agreed to, and that's a no-no in my book. Going back to the OP's post, quote: ORIGINAL: Wilders It's being "adopted" by a lesbian couple as their sissy pet, being pushed further and further into emasculating situations, and being used as a sexual object (lots of queening and oral service). I just don't see any submission here. I see a bunch of "IT'S ALL ABOUT ME GETTING MY ROCKS OFF! ME ME ME ME!" Your fantasy is looking at what turns you on, sexually. But the scenario you're describing is a full time D/s thing. I don't see a submissive anywhere in your description. I see a man wanting to direct a porn film from the bottom. If in some alternate reality my Lady DID decide she wanted a male pet, he'd not be getting any sex anywhere. There would be a lot of service though. Really, what she wants is a farmhand. I'm right there with jolievoltaire: quote: ORIGINAL: jolievoltaire But note that I am not the sort to keep sissy pets; I would rather more enjoy the presence of confident, well behaved, soldier-like male "submissives" (or bottoms or trainees) who like rough handling. I have no sexual desire for these fellows, but they are ideal male "submissives" for my lifestyle. As lesbians who grew up in the 50s and 60s, we've had to discard a LOT of social baggage about gender roles, "proper" behavior, and had to actually reclaim for ourselves being strong and assertive and ALSO keeping a lot of the good things about the feminine sterotype going. Neither me nor my lady like wimpy weak people. Yes, I am submissive. But I am also a strong, intelligent, capable woman. My submission has value because I am strong and because I choose each time to hand over control into my Lady's capable hands. I want my partners to all be sane, self-assured, confident, and emotionally strong. And none of our play involves humiliation, so there's that as well. Humiliating another isn't pleasing for us. Weak pathetic people begging for humiliation just don't light the old homefire at all.

BoiJen -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/14/2007 7:14:35 AM)
Okay...I'll bite. I'm traditionally a dyke bottom. I like top women as well. This is my personal play preference...and yes as a bottom I love "queening" though in this hous it's refered to as "face sitting/smothering" and at the leats over the last year or so there's not been any complaints about my oral skills and talents. Then again...I'ma boi. I GOTTA be good at these things. I have entertained the idea of topping a male in a professional sense as professionals are looked upon highly in this household (could have something to do with the Head of Household being a Pro...I dunno). I'm a tiny lil boi with a hell of an attitude. Apparently I'm a hot button ticket for some guys out there because of it. I get messages all the time for me to "humiliate" a man because I'ma dyke. And to boot I'ma masculine dyke. My standard deal isn't about enjoyment. I give them a base line price for a session and for everything I don't really have an interest in as a top to begin with they're charged more. They're told from go I'm not enjoying this session so I better be compensated. Period. It's my time it's my energy and I'd rather be under a beautiful woman while she bounces on my face than to be giving these guys their fantasies "come true." Now I'm sure that there are "lesbians" out there who would LOVE to have someone as a liv-in who did these things. However, it's not this household and it's not me. I clean and I don't have the energy teach someone how to do it the way She likes it done. I cook and I don't really want to have feed another mouth while thinking they're giving me something when I just really enjoy doing it for Her. It's my service as much as it is that She has coffee ready for Her prior to even saying hello in the mornings. So no I wouldn't even consider it beyond a momentary session.

BoiJen -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/14/2007 9:25:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChicagoSwitchMal Oh by the way Pro Dommes will 'enjoy' anything you pay them to enjoy). you sound bitter even as you make a rather false statement

SensualFemDom -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/14/2007 11:39:59 PM)
I think your title is messed up. Why are you asking for a "lesbian couple"? Shouldn't you be asking for "two women" instead? That way you can find two women who have bisexual tendencies. Why would you want to sexually service people who clearly self-identify as not wanting to be sexually intimate with your gender? I am a lesbian Domme and every time I see a guy requesting a lesbian domme, I start to ask myself, "Is this guy clueless?" You do realize that lesbian means "homosexual woman." Why would a homosexual woman want someone of the opposite sex between her legs? That's like a girl wanting to give a gay man a blowjob. Why would a gay man want a female to suck him off when he can get a male he is attracted to? Why would I as a female lesbian dominant want a man between my legs when I could have a girl instead? I just think you're confused what lesbian actually means. It does in fact imply homosexuality of the SAME sex.

HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/15/2007 12:17:46 AM)
I'll answer this from a slightly different perspective. I'm not a submissive. I'm a bottom. I'm not any kind of a sissy nor femme in any way. (This is NOT meant as a put down of those who are.) I am completely and utterly male. One of my absolute favorite Tops is a lesbian (mostly Top) Switch. She likes to play with me because she likes to play hard and I'm one of the few local bottoms, male or female, who enjoys taking what she enjoys dishing out. We have fun and the energy flow when we get going is fantastic. She has also co-topped me with lesbian, as well as straight female friends and lovers, to the massive enjoyment of all concerned. She's also one of my dearest friends. But there has never been anything sexual between us, nor am I foolish enough to imagine or hope there ever will be.

BeachMystress -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/15/2007 12:21:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Drifa quote: ORIGINAL: BeachMystress First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one. I realize, reading over this, that I have no idea what "Queening" consists of... enlighten me, please? Queening is oral sex given while the woman sits on or crouches over the man's face. (Sitting like a Queen on her throne.) The position allows the woman to not only control better where the sub is licking, but allows her to lower herself onto his face, depriving him of oxygen. Submissive men often like it over regular oral service because of the feeling of being pinned or trapped- they "can't get away."

BeachMystress -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/15/2007 12:24:21 AM)
Oh yes, and for those of us with bad knees or backs, they make Queening stools/chairs.. http://www.tickleberry.co.uk/pages/queening.html http://www.queensandkings.biz/

stacydahling -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (9/15/2007 11:25:32 AM)
That queening furniture is spectacular... Looks like soo much fun!

CollegeConundrum -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/21/2007 11:53:20 AM)
It's a feasible fantasy. Work from there. quote: ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood You do understand that the basic thing about being a lesbian is that they don't really want to have sex with a man, right? Delivers the funny.

MissSCD -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/21/2007 12:28:27 PM)
My slave was collared by a female couple many years ago. He loved it. I have no problems except I wish to thank them for the wonderful job they did training him as a slave. I did not have to do a thing. He came to me trained. Regards, MissSCD

MsWorthy -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/21/2007 1:30:53 PM)
Dominating a male submissive is not out of the question for me. Since what I seek is not necessarily genital specific or orgasm-as-the-goal oriented, I can envision a male submissive fitting the bdsm bill for me, so to speak. However, my partner and I - as a lesbian couple - have zero interest in having a male included in our relationship. What we share as a couple is for us alone. Identifying as a lesbian, for me, means much more than just requiring that my sexual partner be female. It also means that I relate emotionally, physically, and romantically only to women. I do like certain men and can certainly have friendships with them, but the last thing I would find interesting is serving in any way as erotic fodder for them. On a side note, I always find it funny when people refer to performing oral sex (on a woman) as submitting in some way. In my opinion, receiving oral puts one in an extremely vulnerable position both physically and emotionally. I can't imagine allowing anyone to perform orally unless they were a trusted and loved partner. But, that's just me.

rick19 -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/24/2007 11:09:34 AM)
The only way it could ever work is it to be a service-oriented relationship. If that is your kind of thing, than go for it (I honestly don't see why more women don't jump at this chance to have a service sub, lol), but don't expect anything sexual in return.

hardbodysub -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/24/2007 11:27:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LittleWolvenOne This is a bdsm website. Some one who says they are a Lesbian Dominant means they enjoy being dominant with women. ... You're overgeneralizing, projecting YOUR definition onto everyone, and reaching a conclusion that isn't quite true. Of course women listed as lesbian aren't interested in men for sex. But a very small minority of them will play with men, even though they arean't interested in sex with them. Even on a BDSM website, sexual orientation doesn't necessarily limit one's interest in BDSM play. There ARE people who enjoy BDSM play with people they aren't interested in sexually, and that includes some lesbians who will dominate men. There's only one "Orientation" field, and it doesn't distinguish between sexual orientation and acceptable BDSM partners. That's why there's an "Seeking" field in the profile. I think most people interpret "orientation" as sexual orientation, and use the "Seeking" field to see who acceptable partners are.

LilyCade -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/24/2007 11:41:10 AM)
Here's your definitive answer: my partner Mistress Lily and I are 100% lesbian and we would love a male house slave. Having a female slave just doesn't feel right, but it's great fun kicking around a man. Unfortunately we aren't in a living situation at the moment that permits a house slave, but we are looking for someone to take us boot shopping. As for queening/face sitting? Not going to happen. Mistress Lily is the most sadistic Domme in Los Angeles and if a man even suggests such a thing, he WILL be sorry. A so-called "lesbian" who engages in what is a form of sex with a man is not 100% lesbian, now is she? So if this is what you're looking for, you're going to have to find a bisexual Domme. Don't you dare insult a real lesbian with this sort of request. -Mistress Lana

LittleWolvenOne -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (10/24/2007 12:41:38 PM)
I was speaking from my personal experience of my self and the people I know. You may know different people and have different experiences. I am not over generalising or projecting on to everyone or all women. I was not refering to all lesbians or speaking for the lesbian community. I was refering to myself and my experiences with other women that I know. I was also attempting to let people know that there is a difference between sexual orrientation and bdsm orrientation. Since this is a bdsm website, I focused on bdsm orrientation. Sexual orrientation is one way of telling people the sex and/or gender of the person I am looking to play with and be dominant towards. Again, this is my experience of my self and many of the women I know. I am not applying this to every one. I frequently play with/am dominant towards people I have no intentions of having sex with. It is one of the reasons why I have a lesbian profile. Because I am seeking a female submissive and the focus of my profile is femme dominance/femme submission. I am one of those people you are refering to. I am an example of the point that you are trying to make. In your response, you said that "Of course women listed as lesbian aren't interested in men for sex, But a very small minority of them will play with men, even though they aren't interested in sex with men" This is your "definition" based your experiences and you are welcome to define "lesbian" in this way. Not all women listed as lesbians on collarme.com are seeking female sexual partners. A lesbian doesn't have to have "sex" with women to be a lesbian. (I am not planning on having a what is lesbian "sex" debate this afternoon or evening, even though... if the subject comes up...) I appreciate you pointing out the difference betweent the orrientation categories and the seeking categories. For some people, there is a differentation between sexual orrientation and bdsm orrientation and collarme.com doesn't necessarily discern between the two. quote: ORIGINAL: hardbodysub quote: ORIGINAL: LittleWolvenOne This is a bdsm website. Some one who says they are a Lesbian Dominant means they enjoy being dominant with women. ... You're overgeneralizing, projecting YOUR definition onto everyone, and reaching a conclusion that isn't quite true. Of course women listed as lesbian aren't interested in men for sex. But a very small minority of them will play with men, even though they arean't interested in sex with them. Even on a BDSM website, sexual orientation doesn't necessarily limit one's interest in BDSM play. There ARE people who enjoy BDSM play with people they aren't interested in sexually, and that includes some lesbians who will dominate men. There's only one "Orientation" field, and it doesn't distinguish between sexual orientation and acceptable BDSM partners. That's why there's an "Seeking" field in the profile. I think most people interpret "orientation" as sexual orientation, and use the "Seeking" field to see who acceptable partners are.

ButchFemDomCpl -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (7/25/2008 7:47:17 AM)
I was looking at topics today, specifically looking for "lesbian" in the title and ran across this posting. Funny too, as We had just been talking about taking on a gay male into Our House. To us, We really don't care what gender you are, just that you WANT to serve and be a slave. Femme ButchFemDomCouple

ButchFemDomCpl -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (7/25/2008 7:58:49 AM)
SensualFemDom said this: Why would a homosexual woman want someone of the opposite sex between her legs? That's like a girl wanting to give a gay man a blowjob. Why would a gay man want a female to suck him off when he can get a male he is attracted to? Why would I as a female lesbian dominant want a man between my legs when I could have a girl instead? In a word "Power." There is nothing quite as powerful as controling someone as to what they do or don't do. Ever see a gay man give a Butch who packs a blow job? Its erotic as hell, and extremely powerful. I could give a damn what the sexual orientation is of the person who is serving Me. All I care about is getting MY needs met. Femme ButchFemDomCpl

Madame4a -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (7/25/2008 8:25:59 AM)
thanks for yanking this up.. funnily enough, I don't fit anyone's definition of lesbian... at least here... thankfully, everyone in my life isn't so narrow.. grin open those closed minds people.. anything is possible...

CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasible? (7/25/2008 9:02:35 AM)
Yes, definitely -thanks- for bringing this back to the surface. This is -exactly- what my companion and I are looking for... and we're looking for more than one. (Ok, the reason we're looking for more than one is -my- fault... I like to inflict damage, and my companion hates it when my damage-doing keeps her from getting her needs taken care of -- and gets annoyed when I'm deeply involved in a complex piercing or the like and she wants some attention but I've got the boy "all tied up" so to speak.) Hopefully when she gets back from her brief sojourn we'll get down and dirty about finding some new playtoys! Calla Firestorm

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