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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 7:57:10 AM   
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It's a values and priorities judgement, I don't think I haven't learned the value of privacy, I just value it differently than you do. It doesn't mean much to me if someone knows I am bisexual. If they know my nephews names, THAT'S special.


Give it time. Some things can't be taken back. As always the choice is yours, whether or not it is a wise one, remains to be seen.






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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 8:06:46 AM   
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Give it time. Some things can't be taken back. As always the choice is yours, whether or not it is a wise one, remains to be seen.

Which choice? The choice to talk openly about my bisexuality?

I understand you believe that since I don't share the same values and priorities of privacy that you do that you think I have no understanding or value of privacy at all, and that it is largely due to my youth and arrogance of inexperience.

The entire thing is completely false of course, but I understand that's your perspective. Give it time.


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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 9:28:07 AM   
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I understand you believe that since I don't share the same values and priorities of privacy that you do that you think I have no understanding or value of privacy at all, and that it is largely due to my youth and arrogance of inexperience.


Then you would assume wrong. But that's usually how assumptions go. There are those here much younger then you that I find intelligent and wise for their years. And no, they don't always agree with my "values and priorities".


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The entire thing is completely false of course, but I understand that's your perspective. Give it time.


You understand and know nothing about me. Don't pretend as if you do.





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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 9:29:40 AM   
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You understand and know nothing about me. Don't pretend as if you do.

Then explain your understanding.

This post:
"Give it time. Some things can't be taken back. As always the choice is yours, whether or not it is a wise one, remains to be seen. "

Was extremely oblique and leaves a horribly large space for interpretation. Can you explain it in more detail?

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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 10:42:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Really?! . . . Hhmmmm I thought it was pretty self explanatory. What exactly is it about this statement that you aren't able to comprehend?

"Give it time. Some things can't be taken back. As always the choice is yours, whether or not it is a wise one, remains to be seen. "






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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 10:46:00 AM   
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"Give it time.

Give what time exactly? And time to do what?

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Some things can't be taken back.

Agreed, but are you referencing something in particular here or just a general proverb?

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As always the choice is yours

What choice are you referencing exactly?

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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 11:52:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is completely off-track also, but wouldn't it be wonderful if we could just fall in love with, or be attracted to a person. No gender issues to cloud things, no problems with "power orientation", none of that, just person to person connection as the socially accepted norm.

Fantasy is a beautiful thing.

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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 12:02:47 PM   
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It's a values and priorities judgement, I don't think I haven't learned the value of privacy, I just value it differently than you do. It doesn't mean much to me if someone knows I am bisexual. If they know my nephews names, THAT'S special.


Give it time. Some things can't be taken back. As always the choice is yours, whether or not it is a wise one, remains to be seen.







You are superimposing your values on someone else - what would be all wrong for you, you are projecting as all wrong for ES2.

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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 12:08:55 PM   
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This is completely off-track also, but wouldn't it be wonderful if we could just fall in love with, or be attracted to a person. No gender issues to cloud things, no problems with "power orientation", none of that, just person to person connection as the socially accepted norm.

Fantasy is a beautiful thing.


Not for me - I see value in diversity: political value, artistic value, relational value - I love diversity. I love that we have genders - I love women are one way, men are one way - I think femininity (which could cover a ton of ground, and be expressed in so many ways) rocks, and I think masculinity, as broad a term as that can be, also rawks.

So no - I am happy we aren't genderless - I accept - nay celebrate - all of our differences. I'm glad we have boys and girls!!

Now, if you had said you wished we could, on the whole, be wiser and fairer in regard to gender...

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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 4:17:44 PM   
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"Give what time exactly? And time to do what?"

For your values and priorities to change. That's part of life. Unless of course you never plan to grow intellectually, emotionally or spiritually. In that case continue on your blissful way. lol

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"Agreed, but are you referencing something in particular here or just a general proverb?"

What I am saying to you as well as everyone else, is be careful what you choose to be open and free with. What you set free can always come back and bite you in the ass later. Not necessarily here, but perhaps in your vanilla existance. I know I have friends that have had it happen. As always, it's a suggestion. As always, everyone will do as they please.


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"What choice are you referencing exactly?"

Gee I don't know . . . . . come on!!! Do you really need me to spell this out?




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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 4:20:36 PM   
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You are superimposing your values on someone else - what would be all wrong for you, you are projecting as all wrong for ES2.



I'm not doing anything of the sort. All my post suggests is that people should make their decision wisely, because in the end it could come back to bite you in the ass. Have you never made that mistake? And if your answer is no, then I guess you are a wiser man then I.





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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 5:43:16 PM   
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Gee I don't know . . . . . come on!!! Do you really need me to spell this out?


If you don't want to explain yourself that's your choice, but I won't get involved in word games. Accept that if you don't explain yourself, assumptions will be made based on what you do say and the less information you give, the more inaccurate they will likely be.

I'm fine not knowing what you meant, though it hinders meaningful discussion. I asked a direct question to understand, you seem to not be interested in actually communicating. Let me know when you are.

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RE: bi - 7/19/2005 5:59:52 PM   
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If you don't want to explain yourself that's your choice, but I won't get involved in word games. Accept that if you don't explain yourself, assumptions will be made based on what you do say and the less information you give, the more inaccurate they will likely be.

I'm fine not knowing what you meant, though it hinders meaningful discussion. I asked a direct question to understand, you seem to not be interested in actually communicating. Let me know when you are.


Gee I'm sorry I didn't realize that communication was so hard for you. Hhmmm the question was;

"What choice are you referencing exactly?"

The choices you make in life.






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RE: bi - 7/22/2005 10:08:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am 31 and have always been bi..I love men and women the same....thoughI to run into the problem of women who say they are bi and are not or are not any good at it..LOL

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RE: bi - 7/23/2005 10:17:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavedesires

I read alot of profiles........

I have found a remarkable trend....
ALOT of 18 to 27 yr olds say they are bi; but not as many sub/slaves 30 and up say so.

Is this something all younger girls are just learning to put in there profile or are they really bi-curious or bi?

Am I lost in the stone age?
(sorry had to add the last part am pretty silly tonight)

~~Shy


Hey Shy,

Ive been thinking about your question and I really think its a generational thing. I grew up in a different environment than you did, I believe. While male homosexuality was still not tolerated in my highschool, mostly because boys of that age tended to be homophobic, more and more girls were experimenting very openly.
Now add the goth culture into that where you have a higher percentage of gay and bisexual than other "music oriented" groups. That culture also became big during my highschool years. Oh, and add in Rocky Horror as well.
Not that everyone was involved in all of these things but the fact that they were popular made it "okay" for girls to experiment. They did so early enough that they had not had time to form a real sexual identity yet (14-16 year olds, mostly). Because it became a part of them while they were still searching for that identity it became incorporated in many. Now granted, this is not true for everyone but most girls within my age range that lived in cities atleast had friends who were part of some "counterculture" or another.
That help? :)

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RE: bi - 7/27/2005 9:56:53 PM   
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I am 31 and have always been bi..I love men and women the same....thoughI to run into the problem of women who say they are bi and are not or are not any good at it..LOL

pamela


LOL...THAT is my fear!! Fear of feeling like a fumbling adolescent the first time i'm with a woman . i think people's ability to admit bi-amorous attitudes can also be from your background. i personally was brought up in a very religious atmosphere, and couldn't even admit to myself for a long time that i found women attractive. Only after i admitted to myself could i admit to my Master...and now the fantasies are killing me! LOL...

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RE: bi - 7/28/2005 7:58:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not so much sure I could claim myself to be bi, but what our society has become in the last 10-20 years, is a much more sexually liberated, and tollerating place.

I think the term Bi is thrown around like candy at a parade, and what is really happening with these generations of people is, we're becoming "Sexuals". Not just Homo Sexuals, not just Hetro Sexuals, but just plain Sexuals.

I am a sexual creature, and I close no doors that get in the way of my growth.

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RE: bi - 7/29/2005 8:44:28 PM   
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I am a sexual creature, and I close no doors that get in the way of my growth.


What a great sentence. Wonderful way of wording it!

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RE: bi - 7/29/2005 11:36:15 PM   
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I have been interacting about 7 years on-line, I deffinately have found a growing abundunce of women owning the label Bi-sexual.

I being an "older" lesbian( a very young 46) have found this quite curious too.

I think that younger women have felt more freedom to explore their sexuality. It may be because of more young lesbian porn sites...For some reason too, it seems to be spreading like wildfire through the suburbs/outlining City areas. Are they bored out their minds with the hubby and kids, the routine?

It is interesting...Are more women realizing their lesbianism, but already have a husband and kids?
Are husbands desires about their watching 2 female's together fantasies, driving these women to "cross to the other side"?
Are some just finally feeling some comfort into exploring IMO the more beautiful, sexier side of the genders?

I am curious...If some Bi-sexual women would be willing to share, I would find it very interesting, I have Bi-sexual women writing me all the time, but I am a Lesbian and am only interested in other Lesbians for my intimate relationships.

Please share.....

*Brightspot

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RE: bi - 7/30/2005 12:14:35 AM   
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I am a sexual creature, and I close no doors that get in the way of my growth.


What a great sentence. Wonderful way of wording it!


heh, thank you. It took me quite awhile to come to grips with that feeling, and to not be so closed minded about my situation.

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