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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 5:13:00 PM   
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I AM ANSIENT HEREDITRY DOMINA OF GRANDMASTER HOUSE OF OLD EUROPE.  WE ARE SEEKRIT VICTORIAN SLAVERY HOUSE FOR 100 YRS.  I HAVE 30 YRS EXPERENCE (EVEN THO MY PROFILE SAYS I AM 20 YRS OLD) BE CAUSE EVERY WEEK IN AN AOL CHAT ROOM SAYING 'ON YR KNEES SLAVE' COUNTS AS 1 YEAR.

SEND ME ALL YOUR MONEYS SINCE REEL SLAVES NOT ALLOWID 2 OWN ANYTHING.  ALL OF YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. 

IF U BELIEVE THIS I ALSO HAVE BRIDGE TO SELL. 

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 5:15:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dommebeach

I AM ANSIENT HEREDITRY DOMINA OF GRANDMASTER HOUSE OF OLD EUROPE.  WE ARE SEEKRIT VICTORIAN SLAVERY HOUSE FOR 100 YRS.  I HAVE 30 YRS EXPERENCE (EVEN THO MY PROFILE SAYS I AM 20 YRS OLD) BE CAUSE EVERY WEEK IN AN AOL CHAT ROOM SAYING 'ON YR KNEES SLAVE' COUNTS AS 1 YEAR.

SEND ME ALL YOUR MONEYS SINCE REEL SLAVES NOT ALLOWID 2 OWN ANYTHING.  ALL OF YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. 

IF U BELIEVE THIS I ALSO HAVE BRIDGE TO SELL. 


This MUST be legit.  I can tell from the spelling that seems to be uniquely universal to all of the "real" ancient European Grandmaster & Grandmistress ancestry.
 
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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 5:17:04 PM   
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What a fantastic post - I am compelled to resign my position as a Domme and immediately fall to my knees before the GRANDMISTRESS.

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 5:20:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina

What a fantastic post - I am compelled to resign my position as a Domme and immediately fall to my knees before the GRANDMISTRESS.


Heck, if I had known that was in the offing I would have made the statement myself. 
 
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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 5:58:53 PM   
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Sounds like a typical pure blood vs mudblood issue to me ;)

Kinky sex has been around a long time.  It's the idea of suggesting the exact same language/terms/dynamics have been in place for every single generation which I find highly improbable.

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 6:29:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sounds like a typical pure blood vs mudblood issue to me ;)

Kinky sex has been around a long time.  It's the idea of suggesting the exact same language/terms/dynamics have been in place for every single generation which I find highly improbable.


Oh, really now?  And how do you account for his secret documents?  Huh?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 6:46:16 PM   
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Humm... the only multi-generational BDSMers I know of are based out of the Vatican in Rome. They're pretty "soft" D/s though... mostly into inducing feelings of guilt and humiliation in others over their otherwise innocent desires. Although, for a rather long period of history, they did a "self-inquiry" over their own convictions. Then things got pretty edgy for their subs. (no safewords) During this period, they did invent some really great toys, many of which are still enjoyed today. After a while, like so many other BDSM groups, some of their members got fed up with the BS, nailed a note to the door, and went off to start their own group.

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 8:01:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Humm... the only multi-generational BDSMers I know of are based out of the Vatican in Rome. They're pretty "soft" D/s though... mostly into inducing feelings of guilt and humiliation in others over their otherwise innocent desires. Although, for a rather long period of history, they did a "self-inquiry" over their own convictions. Then things got pretty edgy for their subs. (no safewords) During this period, they did invent some really great toys, many of which are still enjoyed today. After a while, like so many other BDSM groups, some of their members got fed up with the BS, nailed a note to the door, and went off to start their own group.


Wow, bravo, good sir, bravo!

To the OP, this reminds me of all the fluffy bunny Wiccans saying "Our tradition has been around since the Ancient Celtic days!"  Like BDSM, it wasn't organized/tracked until recent times and such statements are highly unprobable, but good for a laugh


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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 9:06:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dommebeach

I AM ANSIENT HEREDITRY DOMINA OF GRANDMASTER HOUSE OF OLD EUROPE.  WE ARE SEEKRIT VICTORIAN SLAVERY HOUSE FOR 100 YRS.  I HAVE 30 YRS EXPERENCE (EVEN THO MY PROFILE SAYS I AM 20 YRS OLD) BE CAUSE EVERY WEEK IN AN AOL CHAT ROOM SAYING 'ON YR KNEES SLAVE' COUNTS AS 1 YEAR.

SEND ME ALL YOUR MONEYS SINCE REEL SLAVES NOT ALLOWID 2 OWN ANYTHING.  ALL OF YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. 

IF U BELIEVE THIS I ALSO HAVE BRIDGE TO SELL. 


This MUST be legit.  I can tell from the spelling that seems to be uniquely universal to all of the "real" ancient European Grandmaster & Grandmistress ancestry.
 
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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 9:12:44 PM   
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My mom could be pretty crabby sometimes, and my grandmother was a real battleaxe....maybe I come from a long line of Bitchgoddesses? 

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 9:21:33 PM   
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I am the first in my family. Mom and Dad are such prudes, they hated my now exhusband becasue they thought i lost my virginity to him before we got married.  Ive known a few 2nd generation BDSMers, but none that cold trace back farther than that. Or really, who wanted to. I mean come on now, who really wants to picture Grandma in  leather thong with a whip?
Its bad enough my grandmother was a biker chick... Id never handle her being a kinkster too. Though, she did read the story of O

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 9:26:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I come from a long line of bdsm'ers...It's amazing how far back we can be traced......My great great great...........Granddomi was discovered fossilized and entombed in lava from the volcano of Pompeii....He was frozen for all time with his fist up some slaves ass.


oh I get it now...the "domi" in "domiguy" is Italian...

to the OP, I know your question was in earnest, but what a bunch of cr*p!  thanks for the laugh ...

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/17/2007 11:15:31 PM   
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OP, he sounds like someone who still emails me on occasion. It helps that I had some experience before he decided I was also one of the 7%. His story never really added up all that well for me, especially the move right away and leave everything behind part. {sigh} And people wonder why women on sites like this become cynical.

Just my thoughts.......



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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 12:04:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sublizzie

OP, he sounds like someone who still emails me on occasion. It helps that I had some experience before he decided I was also one of the 7%. His story never really added up all that well for me, especially the move right away and leave everything behind part. {sigh} And people wonder why women on sites like this become cynical.

Just my thoughts.......





Only thing I can say is ditto to this. I have spoken to a few men that have contacted me on this site, claiming to have some sort of long lineage in BDSM going back for generations. Two of them that stick out in my mind, said they were "Old Guard". The question that i posed to myself, to wrap my mind around it was. If it is such a hush hush thing & very secretive... Then why the hell are they telling me about it in our initial conversations on line. If they choose to tell any random sub online about it you know it isn't much of a secret is it.
 
Can you say, "game playing manipulators"?

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 12:11:32 AM   
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I'm adopted, so I can't even be sure if my parents actually had sex, let alone any kinky sex.

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 4:38:30 AM   
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My mother, & the mothers of all other BDSMers, were all mothers. Coincidence? I think not.

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 7:23:49 AM   
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Wow, bravo, good sir, bravo!

To the OP, this reminds me of all the fluffy bunny Wiccans saying "Our tradition has been around since the Ancient Celtic days!"  Like BDSM, it wasn't organized/tracked until recent times and such statements are highly unprobable, but good for a laugh

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I was going to say the same thing, more or less.   And while part of me would like to believe it, the rest of me just goes "Oh hell no!"

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 7:31:14 AM   
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i can not read Egyptian. so i am not sure i know we did a lot of whipping

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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 7:38:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: umisprite

In a recent online conversation a man told me that he was a Dominant coming from a long line of Dominants, able to trace back several generations living the "Life". This to me seems plausible.
 
He went on to tell me that there are less than 7 % of lifestylers who can claim a similar ancestral Ds link. He knew it was 7 % because many of this select group have gotten to know each other and he has been privileged to see unpublished figures proving such. This part seems a bit less plausible to me but I rarely say never.
 
I’ve been around a while and nothing would surprise me. Has anyone ever heard of this secret society of BDSMers? Seen any secret documents? I would have asked more questions but as soon as he started hinting that I was a subbie wannabee I kind of tuned out and became more interested in the Emmy’s on TV. But I'll admit I am curious.


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RE: Ancestral BDSMers? - 9/18/2007 7:57:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I know my father had a kinky side because I found his stash of porn when I was 8.  It is illogical to say that I am a second generation ds'r as his kink had little to do with my needs.  I was not taught this, it was never brought up, it was not an open desire of his that we children be introduced to bdsm.
It is simply chance.  And maybe a tad cultural, though I can definitely say that my mother was not into bdsm.  Never did it, never would.  She even asked once what an orgasm felt like.  A more, pristine, sexually stunted woman I have never met.  So though his taste in porn went toward kink, his activity did not. 

I am very disturbed when people tell me their children do this, as they do this.  I know a "master" who was very open about bdsm with his then 10 and 12 yr old daughters.  It disgusted me then, as it does now.  I did not choose my childrens sexual path, I let them find their own way.  And in this I am speaking about sex and sensuality, not the idea that the woman is to wait on the man, ect. 

Did you actively teach your sons and daughter to explore the world of bdsm? 
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ORIGINAL: Tinman1960

I AM SECOND GENERATION; MY SONS AND DAUGHTER ARE THIRD - SO I CAN ATTEST TO THAT MUCH. I ALSO PERSONALLY KNOW 4 OTHERS THAT ARE SECOND GENERATION BDSMers. I know of no others that go back further (after 30 yrs active in this lifestyle).



Can't speak for Tinman.  I have two female UMs, mentioned on here before.  My oldest clearly displays a dominant nature and has asked me about dominance from a non-sexual point of view.  Is it wrong of me to give her my thoughts on dominance?  Should I insist that she seek out guidance elsewhere and then, when she comes to me with something I think is claptrap still keep my mouth shut so that I am not discussing D/s with my own daughter?

Don't get me wrong...I have no desire to discuss what my daughter does or doesn't do in the bedroom but I see no problem in discussing her behavior outside of the bedroom and see no problem with the fact that part of the behavior discussed is her dominant tendencies...especially when her dominance veers to domineering rather than dominating.

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