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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 6:04:32 AM

Lashra

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ORIGINAL: steamynotraunchy

ok, so let me get this straight: being a "submissive" means aspiring towards total subjugation with the ultimate goal of being invisible when "necessary"? And the joy is to be taken from the act of serving itself rather than the interaction between you and that man?

This is what I've gleaned from all your responses to Gwendolyn's post regarding "submission vs. servitude."

Couldn't you just hire a Mexican to do that for you?

IF my male sub wanted to be an invisible nothing then he would have to find another Domme because I would not be interested. I can think of nothing more boring than having someone around with a doe eyed look and a fake smile plastered upon their face because they have been effectively brainwashed.

To me submission is a personality trait, it is someone who likes for another to be in charge. It has nothing to do with being invisible, stupid or lazy. It does have to do with wanting to please, taking care of oneself and their Dominant.

Also just so you know, I have some people of Mexican background working for me, they are hard working and have no desire to be invisible. Though sometimes the language barrier may make them appear that way, nothing could be further from the truth.

~Lashra

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 6:18:13 AM

twistedkytten

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

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ORIGINAL: twistedkytten

Time and again the Op has shown the same type of behavior patterns... to me it screams Oppositional Defiant Disorder.. just a guess, if this be the case however.. one of the greatest thrills for someone with ODD is confrontation... they feed on reactions.. the more violent. the louder it is the more they get off on it.

That's why it's so funny.

There was even that sentence about the Mexican which as far as I'm concerned was covered in big blinking lights that said "Get Angry At This Judgemental Post".

Seriously now, this is one post to NOT take seriously. Just laugh. Cuz it's funny.

Exactly!.. lol

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 8:52:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

Seriously now, this is one post to NOT take seriously. Just laugh. Cuz it's funny.

To add to the humor...

Look... it's a chorus line of dancing bananas!

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 9:13:06 AM

twistedkytten

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*cheers the chorus of dancing bananas starts chanting... "take it off! take it off!*

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 10:07:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: twistedkytten

*cheers the chorus of dancing bananas starts chanting... "take it off! take it off!*

that's a-peel-ing...

;)

kitten who thought that was punny....

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 10:19:16 AM

steamynotraunchy

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awwww, you guys are funny

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 10:28:46 AM

SultrySub4M

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Hi all, I am new here and just learning about bdsm and what all this means. I think part of the problem is that people want to define 'submission', 'slave',
'dominance', etc within their own perception of how they identify with each role. There is no blanket definition according to everything I have read so far. There are many alternatives within this lifestyle and sensuals are gonna feel really different about thier roles than say a Gorean slave would, right? So why do people keep pushing their, often limited, definitions onto everyone else? I thought that there was room for all of us to find our own way of being. Many people here seem very defensive of a self-defined role and set of behaviors. That indicates some deeper insecurities to me and may be reflective of self-doubt rather than other-doubt. I say everyone chill and let us all figure it out for ourselves. And Steamy, enough with the perjorative comments. That shows what an ignorant twit you are and people here don't appreciate the nastiness. It is a clear indication of your immaturity as well. Get over yourself!
Be well, heather

< Message edited by SultrySub4M -- 9/21/2007 10:30:46 AM >

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 11:10:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: adoracat

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ORIGINAL: twistedkytten

*cheers the chorus of dancing bananas starts chanting... "take it off! take it off!*

that's a-peel-ing...

;)

kitten who thought that was punny....

Have you been hanging out with Valyraen? Sounds like something he would say...

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 11:32:17 AM

steamynotraunchy

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D'ok Sultry ;)

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 11:41:58 AM

mmb1

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steamy- and you are funny as well lol........boy, that attitude would get all 20 lashes.

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 1:02:01 PM

hardbodysub

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Steamy, your OP made a valid point in a humorous way, was no more racist or politially incorrect than Carlos Mencia, and absolutely did not invite the shallow knee-jerk attacks that it received.

I agree with you. I'm soooooooo tired of reading "it's all about service", "true submissive", "service-oriented", yada, yada, yada, where the explanation is that the sub should care about nothing at all except providing service. If that's all the sub cares about, then it doesn't even matter who he/she serves. Your comment about the interaction between the people was right on target, in my opinion.

As a dom, I wouldn't want a sub who's so into service that she doesn't care who she serves. I'd want her to be more into the relationship with me than with the act of serving. As a sub, I also wouldn't want to serve just anybody; but I could be a very devoted servant to the right woman.

It's ridiculous how so many people here have chips on their shoulders, are so quick to take offense even where it's obviously not implied, jumping to conclusions about virtually everything, and making disparaging remarks that are completely unrelated to the OP.

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 1:02:41 PM

SultrySub4M

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Now that's what I call a comeback! Yes, I'd give her a good lashing, but not the kind that is fun. My hot ex-husband from Puerto Vallarta would be happy to meet you outside of Home Depot, Steamy. He's a giant loser, but I am sure you woudn't mind. I'll gladly hand him off to you for further training on how to scrub a terlit bc he wouldn't do shit around the house and would expect me to wash his skidmarks! Now, now...before I am judged as pot/kettle/black, I love men (and women) no matter, but he was a worthless as they come. Nothing to do with his culture or natonality, just a plain ol prick. But he was very, very hot! Maybe a good fit for you girl!
**Just having a giggle at a notrauncy's expense. Y'all don't mind do you? I will behave, I promise...**

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 1:08:28 PM

SultrySub4M

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Hardbody, Come on! Not a racist statement??? The last time I went to Home Depot, I don't recall seeing Mexicans looking to wipe the arse of an ignorant twit did you? Offensive to all latinos indeed! Please don't defend that bs. Agreeing with the philosohical point is one thing, but someone who has to put a whole culture down to make it (not to mention degrade herself by saying it) doesn't have a much of a point to begin with.

'Shallow and knee-jerk' is not why people react negatively to negative comments. I for one am just very tired of hearing people dis a whole culture because they aren't smart enough (or compassionate enough) to prove their point without being a racist asshole. How 'bout "Couldn't I just hire a white upper class, wasp man with a tiny dick and giant ego to do that?" There are plenty of those available to wipe the arses of an ignorant twits and well-deserved to do so.
Steamy could apologize as I am sure there are latinos on here who were deeply offended by her remark, not to mention anyone who has something besides rocks for brains, or she can respond with 'D'ok'. Emphasis on the DUUUHHH!

< Message edited by SultrySub4M -- 9/21/2007 1:16:29 PM >

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 2:23:30 PM

AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

It's ridiculous how so many people here have chips on their shoulders, are so quick to take offense even where it's obviously not implied, jumping to conclusions about virtually everything, and making disparaging remarks that are completely unrelated to the OP.

Umm... speaking of jumping to conclusions, what is your position about the OP's statement about men? You know whole "they can't manage money and will dress you like a drag queen" thing, particularly when that wasn't even part of her own OP

The Mexican thing might have been joke, but the joke is only as funny as the person who tells it. And she isn't another Carlos Menica in the making. She isn't even vaguely interested in the submissives/slaves who have come forward and said "Invisible? No fucking way!" and did you completely miss the insults tossed in the direction of a person who had not even said a thing on this thread?

I dunno... Could be that I'm jumping to conclusions but I don't really think she is interested in discussion. But hey, if she's allowed to crack racist jokes badly, surely we can crack a few at her expense badly. *cracks knuckles* Who wants to start? It's only a joke after all....

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 2:51:09 PM

twistedkytten

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Aquatic... you are the greatest!!

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 3:49:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: adoracat

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ORIGINAL: twistedkytten

*cheers the chorus of dancing bananas starts chanting... "take it off! take it off!*

that's a-peel-ing...

;)

kitten who thought that was punny....

Have you been hanging out with Valyraen? Sounds like something he would say...

nah, i've been bent for years now....although y'all sound like wonderful folks to hang out with!

kitten who went Domme bitch on one of the office wenches at the apartment complex today...i hate having to do that!

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 4:48:49 PM

SultrySub4M

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Yeah, Aquatic is a bad ass! I got your back any time girl...and I can bitch slap like Ali if need be/ Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee! And tkytten, you look like you could take her too. Shall we form a sub girl gang and kick some twit arse? I love this place!

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 7:29:39 PM

AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: SultrySub4M

Shall we form a sub girl gang and kick some twit arse? I love this place!

Only if we can walk and snap in step.

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Without my dominance you cannot submit. Without your submission I cannot dominate. You are my equal in this, though our roles are different.-Val

It was ok for him to beat me but then he tried to cuddle me! - Me

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 7:53:24 PM

NefertariReborn

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I think a lot of you are bent. Lots of post about her needing negative attention and yet by posting you GIVE it! I can see the logic in that. NOT! I thought the mexican comment was meant to raise the ire of the posters. And it certainly did....Pavlov would be proud of you steamy.

p.s. Did anyone remember or go back and read the thread in question before they pontificated? By the way, how many armchair psychiatrists, psychologists are there in CM? Every thread has some "diagnosis." Do you make a good living by being an internet psychiatrist?

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RE: to submit or not to submit, that is my question - 9/21/2007 8:09:17 PM

pinkme2

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ORIGINAL: steamynotraunchy

Ahhh, well said "Willowanderer." However, if you had stated this in OP form you would have gotten torn to shreds by all the Fox and Friendesque zealots on here who would beg to differ with you. They would have you believe it's a dominant's right to trreat a submissive however they want and if the submissive has a problem with that then said submissive doesn't understand the nuances of the "lifestyle." They would never concede that there is an element of low self esteem on either parties part for taking the abuse or dishing it out....After all, this would apply to many of them. If one is to maintain a certain position, one must justify it in one's mind by whatever means possible.

Let me add to that, you're a woman, so of course you're a more thoughtful, introspective, and sensitive dominant. Which leads me to my next point: ladies, in my opinion it is a grave mistake to give a man so much credit as to hand your life and welbeing over to him carte blanche. They'll run your finances into the ground if they're not watched. If you let them dress you you'll end up looking like a drag queen.. I mean, c'mon.

Feminazi anyone? I love male dominants.

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