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CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 8:48:02 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		In light of recent events I have drawn a few conclusions.

On this board:

No name calling, even stupid. Call someone's statement stupid, but do not call them stupid.

Do not criticise any race, or make any seriously stereotypical statements about any race. This applies to Jews as well, but realistically, when most of us post anything about that we are talking about the government of Israel. Make that distinction clear. The government of Israel is nasty, that doesn't mean Jews are nasty any more than the action of our government makes us nasty.

Do not mention anything illegal unless it is in the past. If you are going to do anything, or are doing something, don't post it. Things that happened in the past are already extant, and seem acceptable. Contemplating or planning a future illegal act is no good here.

Certain things seem to be OK, like I am burning one right now, or something like that, but there is a line that should not be crossed. It is a bit hard to define, but we have to try.

I have come to the conclusion that image is important to CM. They don't want certain things. They want to be appealing to the general public and I agree. It took me a while to learn, but I have. And remember any and all posts are searchable on the internet. I have found my own posts Googling at times. This is a public forum, and we want people to percieve that we are cool people even though we are kinky.

And we have to keep the infighting down. People start with "you called me this" and "you called me that" , that is unproductive. If you disagree with another the idea is to change their point of view, or their opinion on a certain subject. I can't think of a time when insulting them would be more counterproductive.

Remember, while only members may post, anyone in the world can read.

All normal caveats apply, of course you can't go into killing the President, taking over the country and all that, but there is a higher standard. No blog would tolerate the aforementioned topics, and each has it's own rules.

Fact of the matter is, if this board decides, there might be no more quoting, or something. Some are poised to impel the webmasters to take action. This infighting has to stop. I have learned, can you ?

This is a free site, you get one cookie. There is no spam or anything, don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

T
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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 8:53:54 AM   
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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 8:58:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		We can't take over the country?
Why not, Bush did.

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 9:49:55 AM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		         Well said, Termyn8.  What continues to impress me is that our hosts somehow get such rules to work in a room full of sadists.


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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 10:32:51 AM   
Sanity


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

       Well said, Termyn8.  What continues to impress me is that our hosts somehow get such rules to work in a room full of sadists.


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And masochists. Can't forget the masochists... or us slinkies.

Good post, Termyn8or

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 11:27:33 AM   
luckydog1


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Status: offline 		They do not read all the posts, Mod 11 is only reactive to complaints, at least that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me.  If your post got pulled or moderated it is because the person you spoke to is a whinny little bitch who complained.

Termn8tr, There is absolutly nothing wrong with quoting (though I wish you would quit quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but you do at least have the integrity to admit you are quoting from a piece of racist fiction), unless it is filling the screen with jibberishh(I agree with you that is annoying).  It can be very usefull, especially when a person is lying and trying to pretend they didn't say something.

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 11:33:08 AM   
SeanPony


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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 11:42:39 AM   
Sanity


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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

They do not read all the posts, Mod 11 is only reactive to complaints, at least that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me. 


But if you respond in kind you've found that you're "reported" immediately, I'll bet.

Same thing here. It must be that if you're not a lefty around here then every post gets "reported" that same way. 

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 12:11:24 PM   
FullCircle


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quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1
They do not read all the posts, Mod 11 is only reactive to complaints, at least that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me.  If your post got pulled or moderated it is because the person you spoke to is a whinny little bitch who complained.


I don’t see that being true myself as I’ve witnessed interventions in the most obscure areas of the boards that only the moderator visits. Sure she can’t be everywhere and that’s why there is a report button. Don’t be so harsh it’s a thankless job that makes you more enemies than friends. I’ve been moderated myself on a few occasions and I accept every intervention as being justified.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1201076/tm.htm

who reported this then?


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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 12:21:17 PM   
Owner59


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

They do not read all the posts, Mod 11 is only reactive to complaints, at least that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me. 


But if you respond in kind you've found that you're "reported" immediately, I'll bet.

Same thing here. It must be that if you're not a lefty around here then every post gets "reported" that same way. 


Typical,right-wing ,neo-con paranoia.

I   just counted 10 Mod 11 emails.And I`m not a rightist.She is right down the middle.And I bet she could care less about a member`s politics.She`s doing her job.

To right-wingers,...there is no conspiracy against you.It`s just that you have it wrong so often,that it seems like it.BTW,there`s plenty of websites to can go on,where ya`ll can agree w/ each other and trade bubble gum,etc .<boring>


If Lucky Dog is correct(I don`t think so),there  are a lot of "whinny little bitches who complained"about me.Ya`ll know who you are.  lol

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 12:44:45 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		        This suggests that the only people who can click the 'report post' button are those to whom the comment is directed.  I recently found a little note from above (and somehow having ModXI on the 'who's viewing" just brightens my day) and I don't think for a moment the person I was speaking to ran crying (it wasn't even a big needle).  If it wasn't simply spotted on the scroll, I'd much rather think it was simply one of the easily offended, and She agreed I was over the line.

      What am I gonna do?  Demand a refund?  Besides, I like it here.

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 12:50:41 PM   
ModeratorEleven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

They do not read all the posts, Mod 11 is only reactive to complaints, at least that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me.  If your post got pulled or moderated it is because the person you spoke to is a whinny little bitch who complained.

It's amusing that the problem children actually believe that.

Certain people get watched more closely than others due to their behavior.  If you don't want to make that list, don't habitually step over the line.  If that's too much of a burden to bear, I'm sure you can find other places to spend your leisure time.

XI

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 1:00:39 PM   
pahunkboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

We can't take over the country?
Why not, Bush did.


lol.  im waiting till Thursday October before i rob any more banks. i needs me a break.

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 2:02:56 PM   
Owner59


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Status: offline 		For the record,I haven`t made a complaint about a poster,or post,and don`t think everyone I`ve flamed, has either.

My "hand slaps", were from rules I broke,or didn`t know about.

There are a few CM rules,true.I like this site,and I say CM rules!

Owner59 (who will attept to clean up his act)

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/22/2007 5:49:44 PM   
Lumus


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

In light of recent events I have drawn a few conclusions.

On this board:

No name calling, even stupid. Call someone's statement stupid, but do not call them stupid.

Do not criticise any race, or make any seriously stereotypical statements about any race. This applies to Jews as well, but realistically, when most of us post anything about that we are talking about the government of Israel. Make that distinction clear. The government of Israel is nasty, that doesn't mean Jews are nasty any more than the action of our government makes us nasty.

Do not mention anything illegal unless it is in the past. If you are going to do anything, or are doing something, don't post it. Things that happened in the past are already extant, and seem acceptable. Contemplating or planning a future illegal act is no good here.

Certain things seem to be OK, like I am burning one right now, or something like that, but there is a line that should not be crossed. It is a bit hard to define, but we have to try.

I have come to the conclusion that image is important to CM. They don't want certain things. They want to be appealing to the general public and I agree. It took me a while to learn, but I have. And remember any and all posts are searchable on the internet. I have found my own posts Googling at times. This is a public forum, and we want people to percieve that we are cool people even though we are kinky.

And we have to keep the infighting down. People start with "you called me this" and "you called me that" , that is unproductive. If you disagree with another the idea is to change their point of view, or their opinion on a certain subject. I can't think of a time when insulting them would be more counterproductive.

Remember, while only members may post, anyone in the world can read.

All normal caveats apply, of course you can't go into killing the President, taking over the country and all that, but there is a higher standard. No blog would tolerate the aforementioned topics, and each has it's own rules.

Fact of the matter is, if this board decides, there might be no more quoting, or something. Some are poised to impel the webmasters to take action. This infighting has to stop. I have learned, can you ?

This is a free site, you get one cookie. There is no spam or anything, don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

T


The only problem I have with this is the word count [please see signature below].


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RE: CM rules ? - 9/23/2007 1:44:52 AM   
NorthernGent


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quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

If your post got pulled or moderated it is because the person you spoke to is a whinny little bitch who complained.



Let's see then, I must have had a chat with at least 20 "whinny little bitches" during the course of my stay in CM. I assumed Mod 11 was acting in her (I'm assuming female, apologies if incorrect) own/CM's interests. 'Interesting.....the self-proclaimed individualists running for help.

Out of interest, it sounds like you've made complaints to Mod11 (based on your response from Mod11).....does this put you in the "whinny little bitch" category?

General reply:

House rules stand.

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/23/2007 3:15:41 AM   
Rule


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quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1
that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me.
I have nearly never been insulted here. I recall only one incident - and then the Mod came down on me instead of on the other guy. How do people insult you? And why? Did you complain about those insults?

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1
If your post got pulled or moderated it is because the person you spoke to is a whinny little bitch who complained.

I have never complained about anyone, even though in that one case I may have had reason to do so. Infrequently I may block the posts of such a person.
 
Hm, I now recall a second incident. I blocked the posts of that nasty person. I rather regretted his behaviour, because I enjoyed reading his posts. For some reason, though, unfortunately, and entirely one-sided, he resented me.
 
I suspect that many of the people who report a post are either sanctimonious or evil or both.

< Message edited by Rule -- 9/23/2007 3:16:53 AM >

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/23/2007 3:33:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got a post pulled and a virtual wrist slap from Mod 11 for calling someone a fuckwit. The following post agreed with me and was also pulled. The thread was the most unbelievably racist bullshit I've ever read, about asian slaves, but the thread wasn't pulled, just my post. I guess it's not who ya know, it's who ya blow.

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RE: CM rules ? - 9/23/2007 8:07:30 AM   
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quote:

No name calling, even stupid. Call someone's statement stupid, but do not call them stupid.


I'll tell ya what....when I see someone {innocent} being picked on who I do not deem equal to the challenge - I'll take the bully{s} to task.  And so help lightning strike me if I wouldn't do it directly in person.

As far as Mod 11..... She's done one HELL of a job completely by herself moderating these boards. If collarme ever has a black-n-white ball or formal party, I will personally donate a significant sum and take up a collection through other members I know {anonymously {so she can remain}} through the owners of collarme} so her entire day /night with the Hotel / Bartender/ Restaurant folks is completely funded. She deserves it.








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RE: CM rules ? - 9/23/2007 8:46:27 AM   
Lumus


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ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

They do not read all the posts, Mod 11 is only reactive to complaints, at least that is why she says she allows people to make personal insult after insult at me.  If your post got pulled or moderated it is because the person you spoke to is a whinny little bitch who complained.

It's amusing that the problem children actually believe that.

Certain people get watched more closely than others due to their behavior.  If you don't want to make that list, don't habitually step over the line.  If that's too much of a burden to bear, I'm sure you can find other places to spend your leisure time.

XI


Unrelated off-topic side note:

Ignoring for the moment the inherent nature of the English language [confusing, muddled, beautiful], I've always had issue with the implementation of the term "stepping over the line".

I understand how it represents "crossing the line", which, if memory serves, has a historical significance stemming from drawing a line in the sand, and a person stepping over said line to initiate physical violence.  I can see why it would then be used to refer to a person who is blindly going forward on the same path they have already chosen to take.

Still...when I think about "crossing the line" I don't think of it meaning to continue on in the same vein; I think of it as stepping into the other side of a disagreement to gain new perspective.  I try to do that as often as I can.

Meh.  Diff'rent strokes, diff'rent lash lines...


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