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Has tasering run-a-muck


yes!
  40% (9)
No
  50% (11)
who is this?
  9% (2)


Total Votes : 22
(last vote on : 11/1/2007 7:57:10 PM)
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came4U -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (9/24/2007 1:06:49 AM)

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No leave was given but a hefty settlement and review of standards. Fine with me, with my apology. 


oh sorry, I meant in my case.  The judgement was on my behalf. Settlement/compensation and apology from the 10 in SWAT who surrounded me and shot wrecklessly. Can't say I am a big fan of use these weapons and for good reason.  




scifi1133 -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (9/24/2007 1:48:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ChainsandFreedom

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yet again the small minority that you speak of taints every officer in the country...by those standards then every american is a serial killer because of the minorty that are. I  am not cruel or sadistic in my work nor is any other officer I work with.


scifi, hope this doesnt end up as cop-bashing or anything-your the one who uses the tool and you're the expert. Any half-functional adult knows the majority of cops arn't cruel and sadistic.

Not every American is a serial killer, but we have laws against serial killers because SOME americans are. Same goes with tazer abuse, some (including private citizens and mall security and god knows who else) abuse them so we need laws.


there are laws in place to govern tasers...those laws are set by the states department of criminal justice and varies from state to state...if you are curious about you states laws call them they will tell you.
edited to add that not only security but the ploice have to follow these same laws




feastie -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (9/24/2007 2:38:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ChainsandFreedom

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completely disagree that police are trained and encouraged to be cruel and sadistic. Anyone who thinks that has no idea the amount of paperwork and questioning that goes on when force is used in any situation.


-Look at the recent Kerry video: 3 officers holding a scrawny college kid down already, and one of them uses a tazer after the kid begs like a baby not to be tazed: how can this be anything but sadistic? And sure paper-work sucks, but it's hardly a deterant from the sudden, violent impulses of people with authoritarian complexs (i.e. that unfortunate and small minority of 'criminal cops'...)


So ... let me get this straight ... the kid should not have been tased because he begged not to be tased, but still kept resisting?





came4U -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (9/24/2007 10:57:16 AM)

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So ... let me get this straight ... the kid should not have been tased because he begged not to be tased, but still kept resisting?


Is yelling? or speaking/interrupting another's speach worthy of any kind of weapon??  I assumed that the tazer laws are used only if the officer felt threatened or if the person had uttered a threat?  So now, it is used instead of carrying off a person who is disturbing the peace?




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (9/24/2007 12:52:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: feastie


So ... let me get this straight ... the kid should not have been tased because he begged not to be tased, but still kept resisting?



No, he shouldn't have been tazed because HE WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND.




came4U -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (10/21/2007 4:08:04 AM)

oh man, another one.

Man, 34, suffers heart attack after taser jolt
Sun, October 21, 2007:

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2007/10/21/4592875-sun.html




FullCircle -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (10/21/2007 4:27:16 AM)

You often see police officers producing videos of themselves being tasered to show it is harmless but how many of them have heart conditions or pacemakers? None because if they did they wouldn’t be in the force and they certainly wouldn’t volunteer for shock experiments.




candleTC -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (10/21/2007 4:31:53 AM)

i know that tasering is a huge deal and it's not funny, when used inapproprietly... HOWEVER, with that being said... here is something to lighten the mood just a tad.
prepare for system failure.... do NOT read if You are not currently free to literally laugh your ass off



Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest. The occasion was our 22nd anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for my wife Toni. What I came across was a 100,000 volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects of the taser were suppose to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety.... WAY TOO COOL! Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded two triple A batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button. Nothing! I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND pressed it against a metal surface at the same time, I'd get the blue arc of electricity darting back and forth bet

Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Toni what that burn spot is on the face of her microwave.

Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it couldn't be all that bad with only two triple-a batteries,. right?!!!

There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving target. I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a second) and thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as advertised.

So there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top, with my reading glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, taser in another. The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water. Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries.

All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5" long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference; pretty cute really and loaded with two itsy-bitsy triple-a batteries, thinking to myself, "no possible way!"
What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best.....

I'm sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to one side as to say, "don't do it master," reasoning that a one-second burst from such a tiny little ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad.. I decided to give myself a one-second burst just for the heck of it. I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and HOLY MOTHER, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION@!@$@$%!@ *!!!

I'm pretty sure Jessie Ventura ran in through the side door, picked me up in the recliner, then body-slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs.

The cat was standing over me making meowing sounds I had never heard before, licking my face, undoubtedly thinking to herself, "do it again, do it again!"



SON-OF-A-.. that hurt like hell!!! A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at that point), I collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace. How did they up get there???
My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching. My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip weighed 88 lbs. I'm still looking for my testicles. I'm offering a significant reward for their safe return.

Still in shock,

Tommy




FatherMayi -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (10/21/2007 4:39:46 AM)

maybe the criminals should taser a policeman or two and see how they like twitching like a demented puppet around on the floor to everyone's amusement

hell, i'd go so far as to buy tickets if ever they advertised such an event!

ROLL UP ROLL UP! ZAP A POLICEMAN WITH A TASER! ONLY $5 ROLL UP ROLL UP




laurell3 -> RE: Has tasering run-a-muck (10/21/2007 4:42:19 AM)

lol, sorry, bet that hurt in a bad way, but the way you tell it is hilarious.

I'll again say the same thing I've said before.  The fact that there are some bad apples in law enforcement does not mean that they all are.  These guys and gals do a job that most of us wouldn't put up with for a day and the majority of them are comitted to what they do for the benefit of the public.  Unfortunately, the small majority of bad apples are truly asses and give them all a bad name and the media creates an impression that is not at all true about the average law enforcement officer.

For those of you that say I'm full of it, I've also had really bad experiences with law enforcement to the tune of having to swear out a protection order and testify against one, who was eventually fired for it.  That doesn't change my impression of law enforcement overall.




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