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So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 8:58:40 AM   
Bobkgin


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Before I unintentionally launch WWIV, this is not a criticism of anyone's choices.

But I'm wondering how it is so many single female submissives are still single, given the sheer volume of men here.

How selective does one have to be to say there aren't enough men here to include the right one?

What are all these men missing?


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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:07:53 AM   
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contrary to your assumption, i don't hate men ...i merely hate the childish behavior associated with some of your fellow male species. personally, i'm very selective to the point i scruntized everything about you - from the way to address me as a person (not as your submissive) to your command of the English language to intelligence etc. if you message me with slang, incoherent sentence structure and ALL CAPS, don't expect me to be very nice in my reply or your message deleted with response. i'm not looking for Mr. Right Now ...i'm looking Mr Right Forever - if i'm going to work hard on the relationship i also expect the guy too. still i don't have to worry about that anymore - Mr. Right and i found each other.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:09:45 AM   
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Sir

I would gladly forward you some of the emails I have received while online, perhaps that would help you to understand the resentment of a female (sub or otherwise) to the people who are contacting her. I would also add in fairness, that there have been a plethera of good experiences... but many are here because they simply cannot function in real society and choose to prey on those who they see as vulnerable.

That said... let me assure you that not every sub or slave you see here is a trembling doormat. With more than my share of life experience to guide me... I beleive that the entire experience has made me a better person and a fair judge of charactor.

And lastly... I adore Men...........

Best wishes.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:09:53 AM   
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They want actual men.

Not self centered little boys, who can never be wrong.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:12:30 AM   
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yes there is a volume of men here, but how many are willing to move to maui, take on bdsm as a spiritual pratice and path to intimacy, enjoy pony play, and have spent years cultivating their skills in pain administration, and elevated thier hobby to an art form? not too many...so no, i dont hate any one, but ill stay single for now.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:12:58 AM   
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Why would you even ask such a question?  Um, we have lives.  We can't just pick up and go.  Some of us have kids that we put before anyone else.  If you notice, there aren't many doms willing to relocate. 

A lot of "doms" on here just want to get laid (as do many subs), many of them are married, vanilla doesn't mesh...kinks don't mesh.  I don't know how many I've met that tell me I can only have the limits they give me!

How about asking if single male dominants hate women?

Oh, and I think what they are missing is a clue.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:14:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

They want actual men.

Not self centered little boys, who can never be wrong.


Exactly *S*

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:15:29 AM   
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I love men, but I'm extremely picky with who I'll consider because bdsm is sexual for me.  They have to fall into my desired age range, appearance, etc.  No exceptions.  This is my first filter.  Then their personality has to mesh with mine.  If I don't feel a connection within the first email then I know I'll never feel that needed connection. 

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:20:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

They want actual men.

Not self centered little boys, who can never be wrong.


Yep, there are plenty of males around but I have yet to see many men. Thank goodness I am not looking.

I still get emails from Doms who are searching, and really, if the emails I get are the best they can do then it is no wonder they are still searching. The last one I had said "me" with a picture that he should have posted a warning about. Then there was the one that told me I had great legs (anyone see my legs on my picture????). It is clear from my profile that I am part of a couple and not searching, so if I get emails like that I can only imagine how much worse it is for single female submissives.

So how selective does a sub have to be? well I guess they usually wait to find one with a brain (one that is firmly placed in their head).

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:23:17 AM   
RRafe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: susie

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

They want actual men.

Not self centered little boys, who can never be wrong.


Yep, there are plenty of males around but I have yet to see many men. Thank goodness I am not looking.

I still get emails from Doms who are searching, and really, if the emails I get are the best they can do then it is no wonder they are still searching. The last one I had said "me" with a picture that he should have posted a warning about. Then there was the one that told me I had great legs (anyone see my legs on my picture????). It is clear from my profile that I am part of a couple and not searching, so if I get emails like that I can only imagine how much worse it is for single female submissives.

So how selective does a sub have to be? well I guess they usually wait to find one with a brain (one that is firmly placed in their head).


Well,it's usually a tip off that they can think with the big head-when they actually make refference to something you wrote.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:26:42 AM   
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Submissive women are just like all other women and men when it comes to picking their other.

Some grab the first one they see. Some take forever to the point life passes them by and most of us are of course somewhere in between.

These are relationships just like others and with human beings just like others. You can write, talk and meet someone and it does not work out but it took months so you have to start again, just like any other relationship. Some are not willing or want to try meeting a person that lives too far away for whatever reason so their choices are only local and that could be slim pickings. Some do not take online seriously so they want the perfect human being.

We do not hate men. We just hate the men that think hey you are submissive and hey here are some dominants why are you not owned yet? Life is just more complicated. Power exchange is merely one aspect of compatibility.


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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:27:12 AM   
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Bob... you are kidding right?

Submissives should be picky! And have you taken into account that those single submissives may not be in an area where there are single dominant men, or dominant men that they are interested in? I mean, if I were single and there were 10 dominant men in my area but they were all Gorean... well, I would still be single (no offense, just not my bag). Or if they believed in the "you can never leave" rule. Or if they wanted a 24/7 puppy. Or if they wanted to start a breeding program (I've gotten letters about it). Or any other number of X factors.

If it were so easy to put people together that all you need to do is stick a fem sub with a male dom... There wouldn't be a need for collarme.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:30:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

They want actual men.

Not self centered little boys, who can never be wrong.


Yup... there's your answer! 
 
Look, it is a small pond in which we fish.  There are always more submissives than dominants; it's the nature of the beast (so to speak).  And to this, add the fact that at least half the males who come here apparently believe the women here are cheap, stupid, lonely women who'd do anything for a little attention.  <sigh>
 
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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:34:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez

Power exchange is merely one aspect of compatibility.



Bingo! I've done the whole "his family hates me' thing and now that I've experienced Valyraen's family loving me, I'm not willing to go back unless the potential partner is perfect in every other way. If I ended up single, not only would the man have to be sexually attractive, mentally attractive, dominant, have our kinks mesh well, be a gamer, our personalities match, be honest and hard-working, I have to get along with his family too.

Oh we subbies are so picky...

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:34:57 AM   
RRafe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bearlee

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

They want actual men.

Not self centered little boys, who can never be wrong.


Yup... there's your answer! 
 
Look, it is a small pond in which we fish.  There are always more submissives than dominants; it's the nature of the beast (so to speak).  And to this, add the fact that at least half the males who come here apparently believe the women here are cheap, stupid, lonely women who'd do anything for a little attention.  <sigh>
 
beverly


Yes,they come with a bad attitude. Rather than an appreciation of the unique and wonderful resource this site can offer. There is more to shared pleasures than sex.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:39:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

What are all these men missing?



1.  Tact
2.  Maturity
3.  Class
4.  Experience
5.  Good timing

I would certainly list more, but I could only count the fingers on one hand.  (The other is occupied.)

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:52:04 AM   
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LOL,  nice to see you Jeff... where ya bean?  Hope all is well.

To your list I would add the simple, yet elegant human pasttime: Common Courtesy.  What ever happened to 'discourse'; you know...the art of getting to know another person?

beverly



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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 10:26:52 AM   
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yeah, um, this nailed the coffin closed on my speculations about you OP. 

I ditto Aquatic and RRafe.



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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:06:09 AM   
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I don't stay single persay.. I just return to singleness frequently when I realize the person I'm getting to know through dating, isn't the one. I'm upfront about it, and I tell them, they're nice, had fun knowing them, would like to continue knowing them (or not depending) but they are not the electric current that will keep me fired. I'm picky, I have high standards, and so forth, and really, I'm happy not settling. I don't expect perfect, but I certainly demand to have my top 10, and if they aren't all there, I keep searching.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:33:53 AM   
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I'd rather be single than even considering many of the males that have been messaging me. It has nothing to do with "hate" of the other gender. I just don't practice the self-hate of settling with a loser. 

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