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Aileen68 -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 7:13:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Oh dear Lord. It's another bob. Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob." Pretty much the same thing, isn't it?

angelic -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 7:25:26 PM)
Dayum... how many of 'them' are there with you? (Sort of reminded of the new Law and Order i watched last night) [&:]

chellekitty -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 7:31:44 PM)
new law and order? was it on nbc or was it the one they've been advertising on usa?

OsideGirl -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 7:47:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Oh dear Lord. It's another bob. Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob." Pretty much the same thing, isn't it? You hit the nail square on the head.

celticlord2112 -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 8:03:12 PM)
Master of baiting? quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty The Master of who or what?

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 8:23:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: ORIGINAL: LatexHer As a mature male Master, we often are messaged by women who harbor fantasies about female submission. Women complain that men in today’s world have become weak when compared to their fathers. Women often seek a man who will not only sweep them off of their feet, but also guide them. The women who have contacted us over the years seek submission and enforced domination. Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households. Master LatexHer Afdter rereading this, I have to wonder if this is a result due to many men trying to become "emtionally open" to their spouses and women in general? I'm thinking back over the past 10+ years where the common complaint about men was we weren't in touch with our own and partner's feelings, thus we learnt to be less domineering and more compromising. I have to agree with you on this concept..instead of the balance that was desired the pendulum swung too far..I guess it came down to "Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it"....[:(]...Tempting

feastie -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 10:20:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse quote: ORIGINAL: feastie I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again. A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification. In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm. Most of what people refer to as fetishes these days are actually strong feelings of enjoyment about a certain thing or activity, but not a necessity to achieve orgasm. Yes... that's the official definition. But groups and subgroups often evolve their own jargon or lingo, and fetish has come to mean something different in the "kink/ leather/ fetish community." I'm a professional writer and an editor--to say nothing of the president of a line of greeting cards called Fetish Bound!--and typically I bemoan the cheapening and morphing of the language into something more base and crass. But it's true that English is a living language and it changes as it's used. It's my personal opinion that if WIIWD continues to become more popular, our lingo will come into common usage. Edited to add: I think it's happening already. Sunny Tawse Sadien Domina Archon of Rings http://AthenorLodge.com And two wrongs make a right? I can understand and have argued about labels placed on people not being all encompassing. They are subjective because people are individuals. However, while an individual might enjoy a fetish, a fetish is inanimate. It cannot change. New activities can become a fetish, but a fetish does not change. So while many people apply it to mean a kinky activity they enjoy, it is still mis-applied, in my opinion. But then, I'm not really known for my sheepleness.

Lashra -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 5:29:16 AM)
As a Dominant female I prefer a more sensitive male and I find them incredibly sexy. Alphamales do absolutely nothing for me. I have never wanted a man who demands that I do things his way, that to me is the biggest turn off.[:'(] Women as individuals each seek something different in a man, not all of us want the "typical" male from 40 years ago. All I can say is thank the Goddess for positive change. ~Lashra

RRafe -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 7:45:06 AM)
You know I never worry about being a master. Does not cross my mind. And women have plenty of fetishes, like SHOES. As far as other relationships....why would I care about any I am not in?

EclipseAbove -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 9:57:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: feastie I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again. A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification. In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm. I read this and my first thought was that it didn't sound completely right, so I looked it up. Here are the relevant (erotic/sexual) definitions that I found: Websters - any nonsexual object, such as a foot or a glove, that abnormally excites erotic feelings. Dictionary.com - Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification. As for women having fetishes, I know many that have all kinds of different fetishes. The most common I've seen are clothes and shoes.

toservez -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 11:59:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EclipseAbove quote: ORIGINAL: feastie I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again. A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification. In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm. I read this and my first thought was that it didn't sound completely right, so I looked it up. Here are the relevant (erotic/sexual) definitions that I found: Websters - any nonsexual object, such as a foot or a glove, that abnormally excites erotic feelings. Dictionary.com - Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification. As for women having fetishes, I know many that have all kinds of different fetishes. The most common I've seen are clothes and shoes. quote: necessary for sexual gratification This is a society thing that people in this life often pretend we are not affected by but for the most part we most certainly are. Fetish has a negative meaning therefore for many, including plenty of people in this life, will skew or promote something that is not to include them. As these definitions show and how most people in normal conversation use the word fetish is something in fact that many women and men have. Just like in most things in life when over indulging can lead to some type of damage. The concept of necessary for sexual gratification does not only apply to a fetish but in any other thing that is done to gain sexual gratification. If that is all you do to get it then your body and brain will learn only to be satisfied in that way. It is the old what I do is perfectly normal what people do that I do not do there is something wrong with that. I love people with fetishes. They usually do not have that too cool to be passionate approach to life. It is why nerds as adults become cool to people. They have a level of passion to them and have not bowed down to peer pressure.

LaTigresse -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 3:58:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Oh dear Lord. It's another bob. You read my mind......

RRafe -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 6:45:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Oh dear Lord. It's another bob. You read my mind...... We need to give them both thier own forum-where thery can pontificate at each other-and have continous orgasms of exctasy over their innate grandness. Let's make it JUST for them-to sate thier elite needs, hmm?

krikket -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 6:47:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: Afdter rereading this, I have to wonder if this is a result due to many men trying to become "emtionally open" to their spouses and women in general? I'm thinking back over the past 10+ years where the common complaint about men was we weren't in touch with our own and partner's feelings, thus we learnt to be less domineering and more compromising. i remember been hearing this argument back in the 70's when M.A.S.H., the TV show was on, and sensitive men were sometimes referred to as the "Alan Alda" type. i even remember some guys i met telling me that's what "type" they were..lol. Personally i'm not into "domineering" people of either gender, but then i don't equate "domineering" with someone being a "dominant". i also don't think that compromise makes someone more or less of a dominant, just someone who's learned the fine art of knowing when it's necessary to work with others or when it's time to just be quiet and observe. In my opinion the most dominant of people compromise at times...Dom or sub..(and it doesn't make either more or less than they are, even in their own relationships) and it's can make our lives a whole lot better. As for the OP, my first (and subsequent) reading of his post was that he probably didn't know much about how other people live their lives, and that what's right for him and his, just might not be right for the rest of us, but..y'all said it so much better than i did..lol.. Cheers, jimini

sextoygirlNY -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 7:52:04 PM)
hmmm... may i ask who bob is???? Or at least is there a link to other of bob's so called teachings....

KatyLied -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 9:31:53 PM)
bobkgin (perv his profile first, he likes that)

sammiebabygirl -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/27/2007 10:21:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: feastie I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again newcomer here, chiming in. i was reading through the thread thinking, "i need to dig out my DSM definition of fetish for this one" and then i read your post. Thanks for saving me the trouble. i have lead discussion groups on fetishes and i ALWAYS start with the clinical definition before going into what society generalizes fetishes as. jen

feastie -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/28/2007 4:04:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl quote: ORIGINAL: feastie I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again newcomer here, chiming in. i was reading through the thread thinking, "i need to dig out my DSM definition of fetish for this one" and then i read your post. Thanks for saving me the trouble. *i have lead discussion groups on fetishes and i ALWAYS start with the clinical definition before going into what society generalizes fetishes as.* jen Welcome to the boards, jen. You expressed it better than I, thank you.

LVpet -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/28/2007 1:02:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Oh dear Lord. It's another bob. Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob." Pretty much the same thing, isn't it? Well, they are supposed to come in pairs right?

TNstepsout -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/28/2007 9:32:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LatexHer Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households. In many a relationship where their man “asks” permission to go out with the boys, or may “ask” them if they should do something, women are in charge. In America we have observed that unlike Europe, South America, and most of the rest of the world, American women generally remain dominant in their relationships. AGAIN NOT IN EVERY RELATIONSHIP, so please don’t mail us to argue that you’re different. I agree with most of what you posted because it's generally your experiences, but this portion I have to disagree with. Are women actually telling you that they think men are now weak, or are you just interpreting it that way? I for one disagree with that statement. I don't think men are weaker now than they were in years past. In fact I think they are stronger because they can now be who they really are. Not all men fit the old fashioned stereotype of a mans man. Are there women who still seek the old fashioned stereotype mans man? I'm sure there are. If you have been encountering more and more of them I don't know if it's because there are fewer macho men or more women who are opening up in their sexuality. Remember the changes in our society are running both ways. I like to think that these changes point to societal progression and that's why some other countries still cling to old fashioned concepts of gender roles. However to say that woemn generally "remain" dominant implies that women have traditionally been dominant in relationships. That's just weird and obviously incorrect.

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