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Padriag -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/28/2007 10:34:11 PM)
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Quite a lot of gross overgeneralizations in this mixed with some grains of truth. As has already been observed, you'd have done better to have expressed this as your own experience. Presented as is, it appears as an absolute statement of facts which it is certainly not.
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ORIGINAL: LatexHer
As a mature male Master, we often are messaged by women who harbor fantasies about female submission. Women complain that men in today’s world have become weak when compared to their fathers.
True only in some cases. I've known submissive women who sought specific kinds of men for a variety of reasons. The two chief problems with this statement is that a) not all women (submissive or otherwise) perceive men as being generally weak, and b) men are not generally weak. Rather in both cases its a mixed group of various beliefs.
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Women often seek a man who will not only sweep them off of their feet, but also guide them.
True of only some women. I've known submissive women who wanted very little in the way of "guidance" but thrived on being "swept off their feet." I've also known women who very much wanted extensive guidance but did not at all care for being "swept off their feet." I think a generalization could be made that most submissives want some level of guidance... and that's about as far as I would go with it.
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The women who have contacted us over the years seek submission and enforced domination.
That would be your experience, and perhaps what you've attracted. But you should be careful in regarding that as being typical of all submissive women. Different personalities tend to attract different things. As such, what you attract is a sample only of whom have responded to your personality.
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Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households.
Women also complain men are too domineering and too controlling... and your point would be? Really depends on which specific women you refer to, and therein lays the trouble.
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In many a relationship where their man “asks” permission to go out with the boys, or may “ask” them if they should do something, women are in charge. In America we have observed that unlike Europe, South America, and most of the rest of the world, American women generally remain dominant in their relationships. AGAIN NOT IN EVERY RELATIONSHIP, so please don’t mail us to argue that you’re different.
Speaking as a guy who holds citizenship in two European countries, I really have to wonder how qualified you are to make such statements. There are plenty of women in various parts of Europe who take very aggressive roles in their relationships, and likewise many who do not. It varies just as much as it does in America, although the specifics of why vary according to the specific histories of various countries. America does have some specific social circumstances that are a result of its own history and development, and that includes the changing roles of men and women. Without going into a lengthy discussion of that history and development, I think it suffices to note that both men and women have been and continue to struggle with these changing gender roles. It could be argued very effectively that much of the exploration of alternative lifestyles is part of that struggle as Americans (speaking of them specifically) struggle to define and redefine those roles. What is interesting is that currently an increasing level of that definition comes from the individuals themselves rather than something imposed by a society, which is a fairly novel situation historically speaking. A similar scenario is playing out in various European countries, again for somewhat different reasons. It can also be seen happening in Russia and various Asian countries.
The world is changing, and we all are being changed by it whether we like it or not.
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Although many women enjoy acting dominant, some wish for total control, or at least in the bedroom! They seek to be “told” what to do, how to perform and expect to be disciplined if they do not! We often cater to these ladies who want to be treated like an animal, experience sexual degradation, sexual torments, and physical pain. Fetish, kidnap scenes all play into the general picture. As of today we have only once had to explain why we placed a kicking, handcuffed woman in our Lincolns' trunk (that is another story).
Acting dominant? This sounds suspicously like another boorish statement that all women are really submissive and meant to be brought to heel by men. Let me be clear on this. Women are entirely capable of being dominant and some are, just as while all men are capable of being dominant some turn out to be submissive. Neither is necessarily an act, though I agree there are those who play at being something they are not. There are certainly plenty of "do-me-queens" out there (of both genders) who expect to be played with according to their own personal script for their own gratification. For someone expecting service and obedience, they can be quite disappointing to deal with. But it is only a problem so far as it is allowed to be. If one expects to be served and refuses to bargain for, or otherwise pander for that service, then I see no problem. "They" can demand whatever they wish, and when "they" find I won't cater to their whims, "they" know where the door is.
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Requests for fetish scenes are becoming more frequent, as are scenes that involve more stringent restraint, fucking machines, breath play, and rubber. Generally women have not been a great fan of rubber bondage, but are beginning to experiment with it more. We feel that their acceptance of this fetish is most likely due to the expansion of rubber clothing in the fashion industry.
Again, this may be drawn from your experience but I would again caution against considering it to be universal. I've known plenty of women who enjoyed latex/rubber bondage, clothing, etc. for more than a decade. I would hardly consider that "beginning to experiment with it more." I'd say any expansion of anything, including more frequent request for "scenes" has a great deal more do to a simple increase in demographics. There are simply more people exploring all aspects of alternative lifestyles and BDSM than there were 50 years ago, or 20 years ago or even 10 years ago... and they are doing it increasingly more openly.
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Women harbor fetishes that they are reluctant to express.
Some women do, others are quite open about it. The same could be said of men in general and it would be just as accurate.
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Women often fear being ridiculed by their loved ones or friends if they share those fantasies.
As do some men... and again this is not true of all women.
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While members of both sexes seek submission, fetish, bondage, spankings and such – women express the desires to be used as a woman, slut, or slave.
Again, a generalization that is misleading. There are men who wish to be slaves of various sorts (sexual, service, etc.), there are men who consider themselve sluts and wish to be treated as such. There are also men who either wish to be women, or wish to be feminized. So while yes there are women who wish to be used as women, treated as sluts and slaves... the same can be said of some men. That is, both are generalizations that are true of some people, but not all people.
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Physical safety, security and discretion are more important to the women, rather than to men.
In some cases... I will grant you that it is more likely to be an issue for women than men. But that is as far as I will go. It would be misleading to imply that safety, security and discretion are not important to men, they certainly are. There are plenty of men who need to be discrete for a variety of reasons... and both men and women are equally at risk for social consequences, work related issues, etc.
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As we have aged, we have posted on varied media from time to time our personal observations and experiences. We have learned that no matter how true our observations are – they will illicit a negative retort from those who feel infringed upon. We will be lambasted by a Domme, gay male or female because our views may not in retrospect coincide with theirs – that’s OK, we have thick skin, and we hope you do too! ENJOY!
You seem to be anticipating disagreement and pre-disqualifying anyone who might disagree with you. You imply that you think your statements are the absolute truth and above challenge or debate... a point in itself that is greatly debateable. If that truly is your belief, that you hold some truth that is beyond reproach and that anyone who disagrees with you is beneath your consideration... then I have to wonder at the purpose of your post. Was this simply attention gathering posturing, ego stroking for its own sake?
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