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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.

Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob."

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.

Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob."

Pretty much the same thing, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

The Master of who or what?

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ORIGINAL: LatexHer

As a mature male Master, we often are messaged by women who harbor fantasies about female submission.  Women complain that men in today’s world have become weak when compared to their fathers.  Women often seek a man who will not only sweep them off of their feet, but also guide them. The women who have contacted us over the years seek submission and enforced domination. Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households.

Master LatexHer

Afdter rereading this, I have to wonder if this is a result due to many men trying to become "emtionally open" to their spouses and women in general? I'm thinking back over the past 10+ years where the common complaint about men was we weren't in touch with our own and partner's feelings, thus we learnt to be less domineering and more compromising. 

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ORIGINAL: feastie

I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again.

A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification.  In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm.

Most of what people refer to as fetishes these days are actually strong feelings of enjoyment about a certain thing or activity, but not a necessity to achieve orgasm.

Yes... that's the official definition. But groups and subgroups often evolve their own jargon or lingo, and fetish has come to mean something different in the "kink/ leather/ fetish community."

I'm a professional writer and an editor--to say nothing of the president of a line of greeting cards called Fetish Bound!--and typically I bemoan the cheapening and morphing of the language into something more base and crass. But it's true that English is a living language and it changes as it's used.

It's my personal opinion that if WIIWD continues to become more popular, our lingo will come into common usage. Edited to add: I think it's happening already.

Sunny Tawse
Sadien Domina
Archon of Rings
http://AthenorLodge.com

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ORIGINAL: feastie
I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again.

A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification.  In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm.

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ORIGINAL: feastie
I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again.

A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification.  In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm.

I read this and my first thought was that it didn't sound completely right, so I looked it up.  Here are the relevant (erotic/sexual) definitions that I found:

Websters - any nonsexual object, such as a foot or a glove, that abnormally excites erotic feelings.
Dictionary.com - Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification.

As for women having fetishes, I know many that have all kinds of different fetishes.  The most common I've seen are clothes and shoes.

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.

You read my mind......

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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

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Afdter rereading this, I have to wonder if this is a result due to many men trying to become "emtionally open" to their spouses and women in general? I'm thinking back over the past 10+ years where the common complaint about men was we weren't in touch with our own and partner's feelings, thus we learnt to be less domineering and more compromising. 

i remember been hearing this argument back in the 70's when M.A.S.H., the TV show was on, and sensitive men were sometimes referred to as the "Alan Alda" type.  i even remember some guys i met telling me that's what "type" they were..lol.  Personally i'm not into "domineering" people of either gender, but then i don't equate "domineering" with someone being a "dominant".  i also don't think that compromise makes someone more or less of a dominant, just someone who's learned the fine art of knowing when it's necessary to work with others or when it's time to just be quiet and observe.  In my opinion the most dominant of people compromise at times...Dom or sub..(and it doesn't make either more or less than they are, even in their own relationships) and it's can make our lives a whole lot better.

As for the OP, my first (and subsequent) reading of his post was that he probably didn't know much about how other people live their lives, and that what's right for him and his, just might not be right for the rest of us, but..y'all said it so much better than i did..lol..

Cheers,
jimini

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"And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to bloom."

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When your heart speaks take good notes.

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I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again

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ORIGINAL: feastie

I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again

newcomer here, chiming in.
i was reading through the thread thinking, "i need to dig out my DSM definition of fetish for this one" and then i read your post. Thanks for saving me the trouble.
i have lead discussion groups on fetishes and i ALWAYS start with the clinical definition before going into what society generalizes fetishes as.
 
jen

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Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.

Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob."

Pretty much the same thing, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: LatexHer

Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households.

  In many a relationship where their man “asks” permission to go out with the boys, or may “ask” them if they should do something, women are in charge.  In America we have observed that unlike Europe, South America, and most of the rest of the world, American women generally remain dominant in their relationships. AGAIN NOT IN EVERY RELATIONSHIP, so please don’t mail us to argue that you’re different.