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LatexHer -> The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 12:30:18 PM)

  As a mature male Master, we often are messaged by women who harbor fantasies about female submission.  Women complain that men in today’s world have become weak when compared to their fathers.  Women often seek a man who will not only sweep them off of their feet, but also guide them. The women who have contacted us over the years seek submission and enforced domination. Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households.

   In many a relationship where their man “asks” permission to go out with the boys, or may “ask” them if they should do something, women are in charge.  In America we have observed that unlike Europe, South America, and most of the rest of the world, American women generally remain dominant in their relationships. AGAIN NOT IN EVERY RELATIONSHIP, so please don’t mail us to argue that you’re different.

Although many women enjoy acting dominant, some wish for total control, or at least in the bedroom! They seek to be “told” what to do, how to perform and expect to be disciplined if they do not!  We often cater to these ladies who want to be treated like an animal, experience sexual degradation, sexual torments, and physical pain.  Fetish, kidnap scenes all play into the general picture.  As of today we have only once had to explain why we placed a kicking, handcuffed woman in our Lincolns' trunk (that is another story).

   Requests for fetish scenes are becoming more frequent, as are scenes that involve more stringent restraint, fucking machines, breath play, and rubber.  Generally women have not been a great fan of rubber bondage, but are beginning to experiment with it more.  We feel that their acceptance of this fetish is most likely due to the expansion of rubber clothing in the fashion industry.

  Women harbor fetishes that they are reluctant to express. Women often fear being ridiculed by their loved ones or friends if they share those fantasies.  While members of both sexes seek submission, fetish, bondage, spankings and such – women express the desires to be used as a woman, slut, or slave. Physical safety, security and discretion are more important to the women, rather than to men.   Remember – we are a DOM, so we express ourselves from our stand point!

As we have aged, we have posted on varied media from time to time our personal observations and experiences. We have learned that no matter how true our observations are – they will illicit a negative retort from those who feel infringed upon.  We will be lambasted by a Domme, gay male or female because our views may not in retrospect coincide with theirs – that’s OK, we have thick skin, and we hope you do too!  ENJOY!


  Master LatexHer




YourhandMyAss -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 12:34:59 PM)

Damned strait I am in charge* grins* ok so he only lets me think I am in charge but still :P


quote:

ORIGINAL: LatexHer

   In many a relationship where their man “asks” permission to go out with the boys, or may “ask” them if they should do something, women are in charge. 


Master LatexHer





Celeste43 -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 12:37:54 PM)

I find that true fetishists tend to be nearly all male. I'm not saying women can't have fetishes but I've never known of any.

You seem to be talking about fantasy and not fetishes.

Oh, and my Ecuadorian female family and friends dream about having a nonmacho American husband who won't beat them up unconsensually nor commit marital rape. Different strokes for different folks.

Edit to add: You may be a master, I wouldn't know. As far as presenting yourself as the one and only twue, that's laughable. And calling yourself that makes people assume you believe you have the right to order other subs about. You don't. Like many here, I'm submissive to one and you sure aren't him.




toservez -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 1:19:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

I find that true fetishists tend to be nearly all male. I'm not saying women can't have fetishes but I've never known of any.



That is a weird two sentences. Personally I know of many women with fetishes. I think often they are not classified as fetishes because most look down on that word so we twist it to something bigger.


To the OP:

I find what you wrote to be mostly true outside of the ignorance of what relationships are in the rest of the world and the blatantly gross generalizations both specific and in tone that most woman are really that and men not like me are that. I think you did not need to go there and hurts with what you are trying to get across which I do agree with mostly.

You get blasted not so much as your views but your absoluteness of your views which by definition are proven to be incorrect by the dissenting voice. Never use most or all or infer those words.

I have grown up, lived and traveled in different cultures. Human beings are basically all the same and that includes relationships. The good ones are the same throughout the world, there is a genuine love, respect and caring for the other’s happiness. The differences are not behavior but the wrapping on the package. Other cultures it is not dominance battle or the men are simply in charge, it is a culture thing to where how people live is different. The man going out the door to his friends in other cultures is not asking for permission because he is in charge/dominant, it is because in their culture going out with the guys is a no big thing, expected or a very important thing. What people always fail to see when comparing other cultures is the shoe on the other foot part. You see the perks not the responsibility and other things that go on.





chellekitty -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 1:26:10 PM)

The Master of who or what?




hisannabelle -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 1:46:39 PM)

greetings latexher,

by "we" i am guessing you mean you and your partner - but if i am wrong, please correct me (it took me a couple of rereads and a view of your profile to figure it out). i am really unclear on what exactly the point of your post is, or what it is you are hoping to discuss, however. if you could clarify that, that would be wonderful.

respectfully,
annabelle.




Aileen68 -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 1:57:33 PM)

Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.




SirCache -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 2:06:45 PM)

Wow.  Someone remind me when I become so blessedly aged that it's time for me to go out in a blaze of glory rather than write something that sounds so whiny I could have sworn  my sister reverted to her 13-year old self and went on a tirade.




iammachine -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 3:11:14 PM)

Replace "women" with "amongst some women I have experience with" and you have a mighty fine article there, LatexHer. 




NControlofU -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 3:20:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: toservez
Personally I know of many women with fetishes.

Me too, namely, jewely, shoes, money.  I've seen some women practically orgasm just at the site of a diamond dangled in their face.  For some women shopping is foreplay, especially if they get new shoes out of the deal.  (OK, this was a little tongue in cheek but, siriously, there are lots of women with fetishes.  I've known my share, so far.  Theres still time for meeting more) 




HotFaerieMama -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 3:38:39 PM)

this is kinda intresting.. .. the only thing that i can think of as a fetish would be ice cubes..




beargonewild -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 4:38:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LatexHer

As a mature male Master, we often are messaged by women who harbor fantasies about female submission.  Women complain that men in today’s world have become weak when compared to their fathers.  Women often seek a man who will not only sweep them off of their feet, but also guide them. The women who have contacted us over the years seek submission and enforced domination. Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households.

Master LatexHer



Afdter rereading this, I have to wonder if this is a result due to many men trying to become "emtionally open" to their spouses and women in general? I'm thinking back over the past 10+ years where the common complaint about men was we weren't in touch with our own and partner's feelings, thus we learnt to be less domineering and more compromising. 




feastie -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 4:56:46 PM)

I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again.

A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification.  In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm.

Most of what people refer to as fetishes these days are actually strong feelings of enjoyment about a certain thing or activity, but not a necessity to achieve orgasm.




feastie -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 4:58:04 PM)

Oh, and I nearly forgot ...

To the OP ...

Here's your clue.  You are not THE master.  You're some guy who says he's a master.  Big whoop.  I could say that I'm the president, but that doesn't mean I am.




camille65 -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 5:01:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: feastie

I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again.

A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification.  In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm.

Most of what people refer to as fetishes these days are actually strong feelings of enjoyment about a certain thing or activity, but not a necessity to achieve orgasm.


Sometimes I wonder if the original meaning to this word ought to be stricken. I hate for that to happen but jeez it seems like so few know what the word means as far as definition goes. Every time it is misused I want to jump up and scream lol.
*I can't help it, my mother was an english teacher as was her mother*




SunnyTawse -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 6:32:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: feastie

I think we need to examine the definition of the word "fetish" once again.

A fetish is something that is required for someone to find sexual gratification.  In other words, unless you have this thing or activity, you cannot orgasm.

Most of what people refer to as fetishes these days are actually strong feelings of enjoyment about a certain thing or activity, but not a necessity to achieve orgasm.



Yes... that's the official definition. But groups and subgroups often evolve their own jargon or lingo, and fetish has come to mean something different in the "kink/ leather/ fetish community."

I'm a professional writer and an editor--to say nothing of the president of a line of greeting cards called Fetish Bound!--and typically I bemoan the cheapening and morphing of the language into something more base and crass. But it's true that English is a living language and it changes as it's used.

It's my personal opinion that if WIIWD continues to become more popular, our lingo will come into common usage. Edited to add: I think it's happening already.

Sunny Tawse
Sadien Domina
Archon of Rings
http://AthenorLodge.com




PryderiLoup -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 6:54:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beargonewild

quote:

ORIGINAL: LatexHer

As a mature male Master, we often are messaged by women who harbor fantasies about female submission.  Women complain that men in today’s world have become weak when compared to their fathers.  Women often seek a man who will not only sweep them off of their feet, but also guide them. The women who have contacted us over the years seek submission and enforced domination. Women often complain that their husbands are weak, and expect them to control their households.

Master LatexHer



Afdter rereading this, I have to wonder if this is a result due to many men trying to become "emtionally open" to their spouses and women in general? I'm thinking back over the past 10+ years where the common complaint about men was we weren't in touch with our own and partner's feelings, thus we learnt to be less domineering and more compromising. 

Hmmm, I would agree with that, except that when I got in touch with me, I learned quite the opposite! [;)]




Celeste43 -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 6:55:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez


quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43

I find that true fetishists tend to be nearly all male. I'm not saying women can't have fetishes but I've never known of any.



That is a weird two sentences. Personally I know of many women with fetishes. I think often they are not classified as fetishes because most look down on that word so we twist it to something bigger.




Really? A true fetish meaning the person cannot get sexually aroused without the fetish object? Or you mean it just that females can get turned on by kinky stuff? Because that I agree on.

But I haven't ever known of a woman who could not become aroused unless she was stroking a leather boot, for an example. Of course women can fake it, so possibly that would account for the fewer female fetishists.




chellekitty -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 7:01:59 PM)

oxygen is a fetish of mine...BUT lack of oxygen is a turn on of mine...damn...does that make oxygen a true fetish....




OsideGirl -> RE: The Master speaks on fetishes. (9/26/2007 7:08:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Oh dear Lord.  It's another bob.
Hmmm.For a moment I thought you said "It's another boob."

Personally, I find it offensive when anyone pontificates on what he thinks led me to my lifestyle. Especially when that person is of the opposite gender and isn't in my age group. You have no idea what drives me. You have no idea what I think. You have no concept of how I live.




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