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Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 7:47:17 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		This is not meant to cause a debate on God...just a question to people who do  follow a religion
(Catholic Christianity/Islam/Judaism/Protestant Christianity/Mormon/Hindu/Ba'hai/etc)
Thanks  for Y/your respect!!!!

So, i just saw this signature "p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers."
i laughed because i have met many other wonderful Christians who enjoy this lifestyle.  i just wondered how many other people call themselves religious and if their BDSM interests cause them conflict or what they think about it?

my answer:
When i first started in this lifestyle 10 years ago...i was a little weirded out.  i was only curious because i thought and was taught that those who practiced BDSM were 1) it was like a cult 2) they were deviants 3) something was wrong with them.  It only took three days talking to Doms, Dommes, subs/slaves, S/switches that 1) Yes, there are some crazy people who think they are into bdsm 2) the majority of people into bdsm are "regular" people who enjoy getting off either by being tied up, being spanked, or being the person in control.  i met doctors, lawyers, construction workers, a judge, firefighters (there are tons), police officers (there are tons), and religious wokers (a lot more than Y/ya think!) i am constantly studying this lifestyle to get "better" and i'm naturally curious  so hence this post.

i was raised Catholic, i'm now a Methodist...i am in a Church occupation studying Theology.  i masterbate, i enjoy being a "slight" maschochist, i love to serve Daddy, and i love to serve God. (Before someO/one brings up the two masters thing in the Bible...the other "master" was money...already did a paper on it A+). 

Anyway as someone in my situation...i do not see my sex life as a part of my occuppation.  It is no one's business that i like to be tied up in bed...
i am a sweet, nurturing, loving, religious, devoted person outside the bedroom but once "alone" (cause W/we all know God there's there but really...come on) i feel so free to be who God designed me to be.  If that's to be a person that's holy in the light and a whore at night...then God bless everyO/one.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 7:53:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		You didn't just make a whole post on domiguy's signature line did you?  If you take what he says literally, he's a serial killer. 

In my opinion, religion isn't anymore applicable to bdsm than it is to regular, vanilla sex.  Meaning, one either has religious beliefs on sex or not, kink shouldn't be any more of worse than those beliefs.  We aren't devil worshippers afterall...although I have been known to worship a  few things that were definitely not God.
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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 7:55:17 PM   
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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:16:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

You didn't just make a whole post on domiguy's signature line did you?  If you take what he says literally, he's a serial killer. 

In my opinion, religion isn't anymore applicable to bdsm than it is to regular, vanilla sex.  Meaning, one either has religious beliefs on sex or not, kink shouldn't be any more of worse than those beliefs.  We aren't devil worshippers afterall...although I have been known to worship a  few things that were definitely not God.
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lol, laurell...i kinda did, but it wasn't because of him...it was the quote.  Because i have been "turned down" in this lifestyle because i was a Christian.  i'm like (been drinking) thinking you know...why's it more "acceptable" or "expected" of agnostics, atheists, or non-religious folks to be into this but like...almost frowned upon by those same people when the other partner is religious...
i don't know...it could be the vodka thinking for me...but i just wanted to know how other Chrisitians felt.  Yes, i know i shouldn't be drinking but i was Catholic for crying out loud...and i'm irish!!!!
whatev  i'm not hating or nothing...i just like conversation, ya know?

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:18:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure domi will be by to proposition you at any moment, since you've dedicated a thread to his sigline.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:19:35 PM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		greetings onlyhisgirl,

we are both buddhist. we both have slightly different interpretations/understandings of buddhist ethics, so occasionally that causes friction, but i've never felt like i can't be a slave because i'm buddhist. for the most part, our sexuality is actually enhanced by our shared faith. i've met people of all faiths in this lifestyle, and i think that expecting the other partner to hold your view and them not being a cause of friction (whether it's christian, atheist, or what have you) is pretty common in ANY relationship. my previous master was christian; i was fine with that. he could not handle the difference. it was instrumental in why we are not together anymore. would i be with someone else who was not of my faith, in light of that? sure...because i have faith that it can be done. depends on the couple, in my opinion.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:22:46 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		See that is the kind of answer i was looking for.  Thank you, dear annabelle :-)
much love to ya!

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:24:20 PM   
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Regards, MissSCD

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:27:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Religion and kink can exist in the same person since you don't have to practice them in the same location, nor at the same time.

Though that does bring to mind some interesting fetishes I've heard of, heh.

-DR

P.S. And besides, anyone growing up in the Catholic school system knows that for some strange reason that very system seems to breed more kinksters than you would expect. Perhaps something to do with the catholic schoolgirl fetish, pleated skirts, getting beaten with canes and rulers, backlash against righteousness, whatever.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:29:53 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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i think You are so freakin right.  What is up with that?!  i mean...i totally think it's because of my Catholic up bringing that i'm like this...(i've now switched to wine for those of you keeping up with my dirnking)  i mean...all those things you just wrote about...hearing them turned me on...what is wrong with me, lol?  Maybe this should be a posting on "Did Religion turn Y/you onto BDSM"....

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:33:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's never been a conflict for me.  Early raising was a very loose and not truly followed (by my family) Methodist background, when about 9 I started exploring other religions for personal education and to see what (if anything) I believed.  I ended up a Universalist with what I'm told is a somewhat interesting faith structure. 

Regarding physical pain infliction, I try never to harm anyone non-consentually in life and do not feel any worry over hurting them when they ask for it... because ultimately, once asked for it is really "intense sensation play".  Nor do I feel any concern over enjoying intense sensations or the physical and mental response they set off. 

Likewise, with my dominant and submissive, both, tendencies.  I'm causing no true harm or doing acts out of wrongful thought/feeling towards anyone and am not engaging in anything doing so to myself.

I've never had any worry or clash of beliefs.  What I do is a goodness, regardless of the differing tastes some now and of earlier centuries may have had, there is no harm or hate in it so there is no "sin", "negative karma", or contradiction with any of the belief systems I've pursued or those I've chosen attached.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:34:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a deeply spiritual person, technically Christian, with a deep fondness for the writings of the Dali Lama and others.  I find that my spirituality influences all aspects of my life, including my sexuality.  There isn't any disharmony between my sexuality, my relationship to FatherMother God and the Universe at large, and any other aspect of my life.  It is all part and parcel of the same package. 
 
The only time I've run into disharmony is when associating with ulra narrow, dogmatic, negative, bitter people - regardless of who they are and where I come across them.  Interestingly enough, I've come across them pretty much equally in "lifestyle" groups, churches, and political organizations.
 
There are some pretty interesting sites out there on the WWW dealing with BDSM and spirituality, or general sexuality and spirituality.
 
-grace

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:35:59 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		That rocks.  i visited a universalist church, they are so welcoming!  i didn't know who they were so i stopped by and said "hey, i wanna worship withcha ya'll' and they said, "come on in" so i did and it was interesting.  not gonna join cause i like being methodist, but cool people.  Rock on, Rumpus

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:38:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSCD

I would not touch this one with a ten foot pole.


I typically enjoy beatting these with a ten-foot pole.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:40:22 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		what people?  i enjoy beatings ;-)
however kindly refrain from beating people who don't enjoy it unless you're a sadist..then more power to ya, lol

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:41:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sorry I wasn't trying to NOT answer the question, in fact I was joking, I found the domiguy reference humorous only because his posts are outrageously funny, search his name and read a few to see what I mean.

I just don't really have a personal organized religion that I identify with, so this isn't an issue for me.  I do believe in a type of karma of sorts, a pay it forward way of thinking if you will, and that's how I live my life in bed, out of bed (on a train with a goat in box...), I try to never do to another something that I wouldn't want done to myself.  The only time I can think of that it's come up in the bdsm context is when I encounter a male sub that's paticularly gullible or overly giving, never have I taken advantage of it, although I've been tempted.  Generally I worry so much for them that I lecture them too much and they run away (haha).
Does that answer?  or is the vodka helping my not so clear answer to be less clear? (lol...that's a joke).
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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:44:29 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		laurell, it's all good!  i also believe in karma...but i think that if everybody regardless of belief also believed in the "paying it forward"...the world would be a more happier place...and if everyone had a vibrator like mine...  The world would be a much happier place!!!  i highly recommend no 53 of the Doc Johnson line..i think it's Doc Johnson...i don't remember but it's great, ya'll

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:45:29 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		This is also why you shouldn't post when drinking...lol

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:46:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: onlyHisgirl

what people?  i enjoy beatings ;-)
however kindly refrain from beating people who don't enjoy it unless you're a sadist..then more power to ya, lol


Some things can, at times, inspire sadism in the otherwise most indifferent individuals.

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RE: Religion and BDSM!!!! - 9/28/2007 8:49:34 PM   
onlyHisgirl


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Status: offline 		CL,
that is a good quote.  i like that...very true...hmmm.  wow.  that explains a lot of rage and my wanting to inflict pain to people at certain times especially when i have road rage....hmmm. i also highly recommend Riunite Lambrusco...quite nice

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