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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 2:28:45 PM   
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Feelings of jealousy are very hard to control, when you also have to listen to such things when you are alone about how the other night when we were out playing pool how She thought Shelly, well I will qoute her "You know I was starring at Shelly the other night, and it struck me what a beautiful woman she has turned out to be(she is like 12 years younger than we are), I mean why does she feel it is necessary to share that info with me??


I'm almost afraid to post again.... what comes about "perverted"? I really liked being perverted!!

Anyway, I would guess that for some reason she thinks she can talk to you about anything? Jealousy, by definition, is nothing more then insecurity, or a lack of trust. Perhaps you need to figure out why you are insecure with her? Or why you lack a trust in her? My husband and I often point out beautiful people of each gender to each other, there isn't anything wrong with noticing that.

Honestly, I would talk to your Domina and ask her if she is aware of the way you feel about her ex and the amount of time they spend together. It could be that she is totally unaware of your jealousy... or it could be that she is fully aware of it and trying to either bait you or teach you a lesson.

I don't agree with asking her to spend less time with someone she values as a friend, ex or otherwise. I wouldn't appreciate someone that professed to love me telling me, or asking me, not to spend time with a friend and I'm sure many others wouldn't either. As was stated earlier... they are an ex for a reason. Think about that for a bit, if your Domina truly wanted a relationship other then friendship with this "Shelly" she could have it, or at the very least, she could pursue it... but she doesn't and she isn't, she has chosen to be with you. The only thing jealousy does is push people away.

It might be different if "Shelly" treated you badly or made hateful comments behind your Domina's back. You said she seems "aloof"... yes, it could be shyness, you never know until you try, right? I have an ex that most people thought was stuck up and rude because he never spoke to them or replied when spoken to... can you guess how many felt really foolish when they found out he was extremely hard of hearing? He would have answered them if he would have heard them.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 2:34:05 PM   
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Jewel,
You know I love you, but is it possible that us monogamous wired folks find the friendships/connections with exes a little more difficult to swallow, and in those instances, is it fair to have the ex always around (no matter what the basis of my feeling threatened is)?
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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 2:48:02 PM   
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Jewel,
You know I love you, but is it possible that us monogamous wired folks find the friendships/connections with exes a little more difficult to swallow, and in those instances, is it fair to have the ex always around (no matter what the basis of my feeling threatened is)? M

I don't think it's a poly/mono thing.

Personally, if a person has a good "relationship after the relationship" with someone, that makes me VERY much more interested in them. It takes a lot of maturity to be able to pull it off and it shows that a person not only cares about people in their life for the long term, but is able to handle change well. Also, it's good to have connections to the past.

It's not fair to have the ex around any more than it is to always have a mother, sibling, or even daughter around. Relationships need alone time to grow together and become close. However, I see having a healthy positive friendship with an ex as a great thing.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 2:55:47 PM   
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Jewel,
You know I love you, but is it possible that us monogamous wired folks find the friendships/connections with exes a little more difficult to swallow, and in those instances, is it fair to have the ex always around (no matter what the basis of my feeling threatened is)? M


Awwwwwww... I love you too!!!

I don't know that my "poly mindset" really has anything to do with it. Even before I discovered the wonderful world of poly I felt the same way. And yes, I've had a few ex's that stuck around... some longer then others of course. My sister married two of my ex's and dated a third. In fact, I have one nephew that one of my ex's fathered (when married to my sister) and one nephew and two nieces that a different ex fathered (another one of my sister's marriages), he was, by the way, the cause of my first pregnancy... I didn't carry it full term. (he was one potent f*cker!!) All I said to her was "You know sis, he's an ex for a good reason"... which she did find out eventually. I have honestly never understood jealousy. Like it was said earlier, if there is someone out there, ex or otherwise, that can tear apart my marriage/relationship then perhaps it wasn't as strong as I thought it to be and good riddance to it. And if that's the case... well, what good is getting jealous gonna do anyway?

Don't get me wrong here, I know I sound very nonchalant about it... I love my husband with all my heart and soul and cannot fathom life without him in it, but should something happen, should he meet someone that totally rocked his world and he decided that he just didn't love me anymore... you tell me.... what can be done about that? If I stand there and stomp my feet, hold my breath and throw screaming fits it will still not change a thing. If I nag him to avoid the company of other females, ex or otherwise, it will still not change a thing. He loves me, I have faith in that, I am comfortable in that knowledge and I trust him implicitely, but if tomorrow he decided that he wanted to cheat on me... what exactly is jealousy gonna change? Or fix? It's a waste of time to me, it's an emotion that takes precious time away from loving. That's just how I see it, always have.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 2:57:47 PM   
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Have you considered simply entering (or suggesting to enter) into an open poly with this woman shelly? Your domina seems to love this woman or might to some degree. If selflessness is part of your submission wouldnt giving her that pleasure be valuable to both of you?

I read a lot of suspicious jealousy here, as in "does she love her secretly?" Wouldnt it be better to get it out in the open, accept your domina's love for this woman and make it your own?

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 3:18:35 PM   
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My sister married two of my ex's and dated a third. In fact, I have one nephew that one of my ex's fathered (when married to my sister) and one nephew and two nieces that a different ex fathered (another one of my sister's marriages)
Oh see, in my world, that is so unacceptable, it probably would mean the end of my relationship with a sister (if I dated some ex of theirs), and they wouldn't mine (I don't think I've dated any guy who would move onto a sister of mine)...
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Like it was said earlier, if there is someone out there, ex or otherwise, that can tear apart my marriage/relationship then perhaps it wasn't as strong as I thought it to be and good riddance to it. And if that's the case... well, what good is getting jealous gonna do anyway?
Jewel
I totally understand that jealousy does no good, and in fact, as far as anyone can tell, I'm not a jealous type, because if I feel someone is doing something I consider disrespectful or something that for some reason makes me uneasy, I tell them exactly how I feel, and if things continue to feel uncomfortable for me, than I figure it's time I cut the connection and start over with someone more like me in terms of thinking/values/feelings.
Psychological explanations aside, I can only acknowledge my feelings and live the healthiest, most comfortable life for me (which isn't the same as everyone else's level of adaptation). M


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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 4:14:00 PM   
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I am learning so much from all of you. Except for the person who sugested a
possible poly-Relationship with Shelly. Shelly is involved with another woman
and although their relationship is "Open" (as is my and my Domina's) they seem very happy with just each other right now.

~stormsfate, no it is not the same as a neighbor stopping by, although that would bug me if it were everyday for long periods of time. It has more to do with Shelly being an Ex and that they did have a 5 year relationship and have a special bond. That is my biggest problem that I most likely have nothing to worry about something sexual happening between them...it is more like I struggle with the admiration and love(although platonic) she has for Shelly...Like I will never rate as high.


~MHF, I agree with what you have said.

~pinkpleasures, No need to apologize and I am glad to hear you understand some-what
of which i am struggling.

~Jewel, I totally hear what you say about jealousy and it's destructiveness. I think though you are way more open minded... polyamorously than I.

~M, thanks again, it's great to have someone who can relate to the emotions...whether we like them or not....that is the thing.... they are there... they are mine...that doesn't mean I like them or don't want to learn and change to be more accepting.

~Em, once again I read your words and you make very good sense to me. I do think my Domina is special to have existing relationship with most of her Exes and that does tell me a lot about her character. I just have never had an Ex so much "in my face" before and I am trying to deal....because I love my Domina and want things and our lives however we are sharing it to work and run smoothly.

Thanks Everyone!
Your input is really helpful!


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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 4:31:05 PM   
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I don't think it's a poly/mono thing.
Oh on some levels at least it is, because the only reason (for me, and mine) not to have a poly is because of potential feelings of insecurity/resentment/lack of attention from one's beloved... Otherwise, I would say the more the better.

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It's not fair to have the ex around any more than it is to always have a mother, sibling, or even daughter around. Relationships need alone time to grow together and become close. However, I see having a healthy positive friendship with an ex as a great thing.
Oh Emerald, sure having other siblings always around is a litttle annoying, but hardly the same as ex lovers. When a daughter is around, as long as she's not mean to me, it doesn't bother me; I certainly don't start imagining if my lover has done the kinky things we do with her, and than further torture myself with wondering if my lover liked it as much... M

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/25/2005 8:53:38 PM   
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Oh Emerald, sure having other siblings always around is a litttle annoying, but hardly the same as ex lovers. When a daughter is around, as long as she's not mean to me, it doesn't bother me; I certainly don't start imagining if my lover has done the kinky things we do with her, and than further torture myself with wondering if my lover liked it as much... M


Ms M, I think we are running along a very close groove....
Seems Pretty groovy to me! ( not to at all negate the wisdom I have gained form you Em's!)


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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/27/2005 5:51:17 AM   
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~stormsfate, no it is not the same as a neighbor stopping by, although that would bug me if it were everyday for long periods of time. It has more to do with Shelly being an Ex and that they did have a 5 year relationship and have a special bond. That is my biggest problem that I most likely have nothing to worry about something sexual happening between them...it is more like I struggle with the admiration and love(although platonic) she has for Shelly...Like I will never rate as high.


brightspot...you have said that you cannot be with your Domina all the time and you have said that you love Her very much...ask yourself something....when you cannot be there to take care of Her would you rather know that She is alone without a friend to talk to and help Her or would you rather know that She has a friend who will help Her if something happens? As difficult as it may be emotionally to know that Shelley is sooooooo close to Her, you DO know that Shelley is an Ex...and as has been stated a few times, exs are exs for a reason. Better that Shelley be in Her life then some unknown person who may prove to be a threat right?

Shelley may be aloof because she knows that her presence hurts you and is trying to minimize it....or she may be hurting herself because you have replaced her...just two possible reasons and there are lots more that could be true. I had a good relationship with My first ex-husband and felt really awkward whenever I ran into him when I was with My second husband. I had grown up with My first husband and we returned to being close friends after the divorce. No way would I live with him again but the friendship is still there 20 years later.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/27/2005 12:31:58 PM   
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brightspot...you have said that you cannot be with your Domina all the time and you have said that you love Her very much...ask yourself something....when you cannot be there to take care of Her would you rather know that She is alone without a friend to talk to and help Her or would you rather know that She has a friend who will help Her if something happens? As difficult as it may be emotionally to know that Shelley is sooooooo close to Her, you DO know that Shelley is an Ex...and as has been stated a few times, exs are exs for a reason. Better that Shelley be in Her life then some unknown person who may prove to be a threat right?

Yes GentleLady, you are correct and thank you for mentioning it because it made me realize that I do not have these feelings hardly at all, well not as much anyway when we are in our own homes and apart. Yes I am grateful for Her having Shelly to rely on and be there for her when I am not there.

My problem with this issue, is when I am there and Shelly is hanging around too often (of course acording to me).


Shelly may be aloof because she knows that her presence hurts you and is trying to minimize it....or she may be hurting herself because you have replaced her...just two possible reasons and there are lots more that could be true. I had a good relationship with My first ex-husband and felt really awkward whenever I ran into him when I was with My second husband. I had grown up with My first husband and we returned to being close friends after the divorce. No way would I live with him again but the friendship is still there 20 years later.

Gentle Lady


I totally agree with everything you said here...It is totally possible I am reading things wrong. It's the feeling's I struggle with.

Thanks for making me look at it from that perspective...


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Edited to say...I really have to learn how to do the quote thing!

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/27/2005 7:17:53 PM   
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My problem with this issue, is when I am there and Shelly is hanging around too often (of course acording to me).

brightspot...you want alone time with your Lady and that is a good thing. Perhaps She wants to include you in Her whole life (which is also a good thing). I know that when I am with someone new there is that period of high excitement where we concentrate on each other. This is a good time but also an unrealistic time. When we move in together things become very different because we are living a life together. Now I am not sure if you and your Lady ever plan on living together but if you should, this way you will have a very good idea beforehand as to what life will be like. Just a thought to throw into the mix because I have no idea how to deal with jealous feelings.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/28/2005 11:25:23 AM   
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hmmmmmmmmmmm something i've dealt with for Oh.. about a year.

Tried to put it in the perspective that i've friends i'm really close too. Try to land in his shoes ya know?

that worked for awhile.. well until.. and then..

well

and now i just try and ignore it. Cos you get frickin questions in your head.. and you fricking wonder.. and then you remember to have abit of faith.. you forget and its okay.. and then you get smacked in the face with it again.. and you try to talk about it.. but it doesnt go over well.. cos they think you're saying something else.. so you try and rephrase it.. and sometimes you talk.. and they assure you its just friends and thats okay for then, but then you think about it and its not okay. And then well.. it can get worse. Suuuuuuuuuure.. trust have faith.. and then that person disapears and there's another in place.. and its starts all over again.. but have faith and some trust... and no matteer what anyone says, cos i swear confronting with what other ppl say just aint bright. Been there done that. Heck, EVEN get their OWN words of what THEY say.. aint bright. Wont do no good.

Listen to yourself. Listen to your heart and your MIND. If it seems not straight up.. well why take the fricken chance. Ya know, it JUST MIGHT be straight up.. but really you wanna live like that? And if its not this girl shelly.. who says it might not be someone else? Over and fricken over until you have a list of names in your damn head. And even if it is JUST friends and all that crap.. why be with some one else who needs to get emotional fullfillment some where other then you?

Kind of like cheating.. do it once, always do it. If she's getting emotional fullfillment else where now.. who says she'll ever stop? Just be a different name. Different set of "issues" to deal with. Oh.. and if she or anyone comes at you that "its all in your head" take a flying leap elsewhere. Cos thats a pretty one they like to lay down, to get you to shut up and believe the shit they're spewing.

Of course, you could keep trying and dealing with all the emotional anguish, the insults from other ppl, the constant forced opionons of what you should do and letting others call you bipolar and all sorts of stupid stuff.. but then, you'll just end up cynical like me. Not giving a rats ass anymore. Drinkin a beer, wishing you had something else and sick and tired and fed up because YOU tried to work out ALL YOUR frickin issues (cos its all in your head remember), you tried your damnedest, you tried to be the "understanding" one. You tried to have faith.

But hon it dont work like that. you're better off heading for the hills now.



I totally understand where your coming from here Riot Girl. I've been dealing with this very same issue for a year now. I thought it would get easier but it's only gotten harder, and what really bites is when someone else comes into your area, or what you thought was your area and tries to take it over, tries to end the relationship with your Dom(me) and then the blame gets put on you. Everything is your fault, and the forgiveness and apologies never come. When you try to discuss it what is your Domme going to do, sit there and tell you it's all in your head, sit there and tell you that you have issues to work out on your own or else she's going to leave you, continue to make it seem like your fucked up and there is something wrong with you. Just because you dont agree doesn't mean that there is something wrong with you. Then when you try to sit down and talk about it again, what's she going to say then, quit topping from the bottom! I'm in control, and I want a variety, if you dont like it that's to bad there's the door! That just seems a little out of the ordinary dont you think, but from my first hand experience with an issue like this it's what we deal with sometimes as submissives and slaves. Every time we disagree we are trying to top from the bottom and what the Dom's dont realize is that's a load of crap, sometimes we are out for ourselves in this lifestyle, and sometimes we feel that it's necessary to protect ourselves whether the Dom(me) likes it or not.

Yeah this is when this lifestyle sucks...plain and simple, we're forced to choose, the way we feel about that person, the love that we have for them over all of the hurt that our S/O is causing us.

The worst mistake you could make is blaming "shelly" i've been there and done that, and I came to realize putting the blame on the other girl isn't what you want to do at all. This relays back to one person only and that's the Dom(me) why? Because as your Dom(me) she is suppose to be protecting you in every way shape and form, if your not feeling as though you have emotional protection, and you are feeling hurt and neglected in a sense. Than she isn't being a very good Domme in the sense of protection, she isn't making you feel wanted, loved, cared for, or even respected in a sense.

What most Dominants that I have met refuse to understand that with slavery and submission to our Dominants there comes great emotions, great love, and great respect over time, we all show these in different forms and when it isn't returned by our S/O's then the so called relationship goes right down the tube and as much as you try to work it out by yourself since your Dom(me) obviously doesn't want to realize there is a problem or just doesn't care, the time,effort, energy and money you spend doesn't work as a relationship takes both people involved to make the relationship grow stronger, one thing cant work with out the other.


My advice to you is to try and speak with your Domme on the issues that you have with what is going on, it's not all inside your head and you have every reason to feel what you feel. Speak with her and if you dont like her answers or responses then I'm going to give you the same advice that someone gave me a long time ago......It's either my way or the highway. If your Domme is not going to make you feel comfortable with who you are as her slave or submissive (not sure which you are) then she is not going to be capable of filling the rest of your needs, wants, and desires as a slave or submissive. This lifestyle relationship works with two people and both people involved need to be considered, it's not going to work any other way, you will end up a miserable person. IF you dont get the responses your looking for try a slight ultimatum and tell her how you feel. If you want to leave after that because she is not listening to you, your feelings, wants and desires leave. It's better to leave as a strong woman than leaving as a broken slave who will need to be fixed by someone else due to the mistreatment from the past.



I wish you the best of luck, I'm here if you need an ear.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/29/2005 12:49:06 AM   
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Because as your Dom(me) she is suppose to be protecting you in every way shape and form, if your not feeling as though you have emotional protection, and you are feeling hurt and neglected in a sense. Than she isn't being a very good Domme in the sense of protection, she isn't making you feel wanted, loved, cared for, or even respected in a sense.

I really have to address this statement. The Dominant is NOT responsible for making the submissive feel loved and secure. The Dominant can love the submissive and care for the submissive and value the submissive completely but She or He cannot MAKE the submissive feel those things. Loving someone is NOT the same thing as the person feeling that they are loved. The Dominant is not responsible for making the submissive feel cared for, She or He is only responsible for caring for the submissive.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/29/2005 1:26:35 AM   
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Because as your Dom(me) she is suppose to be protecting you in every way shape and form, if your not feeling as though you have emotional protection, and you are feeling hurt and neglected in a sense. Than she isn't being a very good Domme in the sense of protection, she isn't making you feel wanted, loved, cared for, or even respected in a sense.


I really have to address this statement. The Dominant is NOT responsible for making the submissive feel loved and secure. The Dominant can love the submissive and care for the submissive and value the submissive completely but She or He cannot MAKE the submissive feel those things. Loving someone is NOT the same thing as the person feeling that they are loved. The Dominant is not responsible for making the submissive feel cared for, She or He is only responsible for caring for the submissive.

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I agree with you Gentle Lady.
I feel my Domina loves me, cares for me and is protective of me.
This is an issue outside of those perimeters.


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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/29/2005 3:46:34 AM   
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Hello brightspot....the above post about what Dominants are and are not responsible for was in answer to punnishme. I should have made that more clear instead of just replying to her post.

I know that this was outside of the perimeters of your question.

edited for gender correction.

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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/29/2005 1:23:14 PM   
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I knew that is what you meant GentleLady when I read it.
Thanks for clarifying though.
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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/31/2005 12:36:40 PM   
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Your first words Unfortunately are::: i am Struggling.

i thought long and hard about responding. Often Some have said BDSM ... D/s relationships are not so different from all other relationships. This being said, i urge you to hear whatever your gut is saying to you. Pain in a scene, or emotional pain is truly done consensually, sanely, safely. Nowhere in any manual have i read, "hurting each other's feelings allowed. Especially the submissive, for they are beneath the Dominant".
But you are encouraged to Not be a doormat, yet to allow hurtful behavior. i ask which is it? One or the other for it cannot be both? Then what about Motives? Is it sadistic motive, is there a certain amount of enjoyment being gained from your uncomfortableness?
And if that is acceptable to you then fine. Make sure you are healthy, and well.
my apologies, i wished to write and say positive things, it seems you are stressed & sad.
There is a possibility your writing is tainted from where you are at the moment. That things will shift and straighten out. If your Domina sees this whole thing as your issue, It may be difficult to get assistance from Her. Stay Strong, keep communicating well and i wish that you will either succeed in this relationship with happiness.Or find great strength and happiness in your next.


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RE: I am Struggling.... - 7/31/2005 1:48:55 PM   
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But you are encouraged to Not be a doormat, yet to allow hurtful behavior. i ask which is it? One or the other for it cannot be both? Then what about Motives? Is it sadistic motive, is there a certain amount of enjoyment being gained from your uncomfortableness?


Hello mossy,

I read this quote and would like to say that these thoughts have crossed my mind. That She is getting some Sadistic thrill out of the scenario.

I am glad though that my Domina and myself have very good communication. I think at first She didn't think of my uncomfortableness, she is used to just being "friends" with Shelly. She has told me that Shelly's lover too was very uncomfortable at first and that it took her lover time to watch and be together to see that nothing sexual was ever going to happen between Shelly and Herself (ergo there was no threat), and how now she is very comfortable hanging out with the two of them now. That She hopes in time I will see too, and can be friends with Shelly and feel comfortable.

Yes at this time though "I am Struggling" with it.
Thanks for your responce....


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RE: I am Struggling.... - 8/1/2005 6:59:25 PM   
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Ok so what your stating here is that it's ok emotionally and mentally for a submissive or slave to be unstable. Come to the point where she or he no longer believes in themselves or anything around them. Eventually whether you believe it or not, it can and will happen. It may take sometime, but the jelousy that comes from a submissive with a Dom prefering Poly when one or more subs is not comfortable, has set a hard limit against it etc.... will only be torn to shreds, that's the relationship side of this. The personal side for the submissive or slave is much different, even if everything may seem ok to the Dom(me) That Person had better check things as negative thoughts and feelings can sometimes lay around in the sub / slaves mind, they stay there as they are afraid to talk about it. They come on here, and try and ask for help, sometimes it helps other times it just makes them more confused due to all of the bad mouthing. Either way the sub / slave leaves with something some good advice some bad depending on who replies that day or night.

I see a girl who is troubled in reading this post, I see a girl who is like I was a short time ago who just wanted to beg someone to help her because I couldn't find the answers anywhere else including in my own head. No matter what people tell you, I started to believe a long time ago that you should make your decisions wisely, write out the pro's and cons, write out the things that need to be discussed and base your decissions on those circumstances, the answers after everything else has failed. This girl is in this situation now, I've choosen to stay for a little while longer, with a twist. I will serve my Master like I have previously, I will do it with the love and devotion along with respect and trust that I had for Him before, as none of that has passed. I adore that man, and no matter how much I've sacraficed for Him, to be there for Him, like He has for me in other ways, I know as well He cant give me everything that I need and want so I weighed my options and came to a conclusion as this girl needs to do.

I still wish her the best of luck. Poly and even the variety thing, with a submissive or slave who is devoted, loving etc..... needs the emotional comfort that her Dom(me) is not truely giving her...She may be trying, or She may not even see it but I truely see this girls hurt, I feel for her, as I've been through it and continue to go through it, all I can say is the pain sometimes feels as though it's never ending, somedays it's like you forget, and others once you think you've passed it, the hurt may come back all over again for no reason, your in for an emotional rollercoaster so to speak so do yourself a favor, make your feelings well known and go from there, that's the best advice I can give you.

I hope that this clarifies my previous post a bit.

Good luck

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