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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 6:03:25 AM

petdave

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i don't feel bad if my wife offers to do something helpful when it's convenient for her (say, getting up to go change clothes and get a drink, and offers to bring me one as well)... But having her offer to do something that *should* be my job because i'm so far behind on things that i'm not getting it done... That, i feel guilty about. Even if she's doing it to take some of the stress off of me when i'm having a difficult time... it kind of emphasizes the failure even more than than seeing the job un-done already does.

But, yanno, as a male sub, it's kind of a given that i only want to serve in a way that fulfills MY fantasies of submission

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 6:17:40 AM

DocRudy

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Bita,

Fun start for the thread, heh. :)

As for the actual content, I feel that a Master should care for his slave as he would any other most prized posession. Not to mention, if this is part of your relationship dynamic, love.

As long as the Master doesn't serve the slave too much. "Too much" is a very vague, subjective term, and judgement needs to be applied on a case by case basis.

There are times I rub my pet's feet, her shoulders and whatnot. Love is a part of our relationship, so that is a way I can show that, not to mention care for my most prized posession.

-DR

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 6:49:47 AM

chiaThePet

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Kinda like opening up that kids meal and finding a "vanilla" shake instead
of the same old whole milk, the feel good moment captures you, but then
you begin wondering "why" you got the sweet stuff this time around.

But then you come to your senses, reality and remembrance sets in, there's
still a toy at the bottom of the bag, and He's going to use it on you!

Personally, waking up next to that King Dude would totally freak me out.

If Dominants don't care for those who kneel before Them, They may find
no one cares to do so.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 7:07:37 AM

GhitaAmati

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Arrrghhh...I now have a craving for burger king......sigh...

Anyway, I have issues with Sir doing things for me also...sometimes it brings me to tears when he comes home from work and sees that the kids have been hellions and I havent had a chance to do everything and instead of being upset he starts doing the dishes for me...Im like..wtf..IM supposed to do those!!

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:02:54 AM

SirEbonyPhoenix

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Sorry, but Burger King, McDonald's and Wendy's are the three places I avoid when it comes to burgers. Now, Subway, that's a different story......:-?

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:18:10 AM

BitaTruble

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

(I’m still trying to figure out what kind of place Bita and her Master live in where you have to go upstairs for a drink, heh.)

Our house was built on a hill, so when you walk in via the front door or garage, you're actually on the top floor which, among other things, houses the kitchen. The nice, good-for-company 'stuff' is all upstairs.. but the fun stuff (computers, video games, weapons of ass destruction etc) are all downstairs, so we, generally, hang around downstairs. We have a freezer down here, but no fridge, so .. no drinks.

hisannabelle: I relate to what you wrote as well. Michael is an independent sorta cuss and was quite used to doing everything for himself and had been for a very long time before we met. He, eventually, wrapped his head around the idea that he could actually make a simple request for something and it would be done for him, so both of us got into our respective grooves and it works well for us now. Fortunetly for me, he abhores doing housework, so that remains entirely within my domain of duties which is good because I'm a bit warped and actually like doing dishes and stuff. ::grins::

Thanks for the replies everyone and for letting me have a bita fun with this thread.

Celeste

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:24:36 AM

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Sometimes I feel guilty when Valyraen does nice things for me. I think we all get the whole "Damn it, I'm supposed to be doing for you!!!!" line of thinking from time to time.

But on the other hand.... he really likes doing nice things for me from time to time. He likes seeing my smile when he's waking me up by rubbing my tummy and thrusting a cup of coffee in my face - which he doesn't drink so I know he made it just for me. It puts me in a good mood and makes me feel all fuzzy and loved. Definately brings a huge smile to my face and he enjoys that. I'm certainly not about to tell him "Sir, you aren't allowed to love me and want me to be happy and feel loved!"

It's just the way he likes this relationship to be - his burger with the large fries.

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:26:34 AM

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If one is going through the bother of being a master,he might as well have it his way.

If not,who's really the slave?

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:30:00 AM

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Irony being what it is, I do most of the cooking at the moment.

This isn't just because I enjoy cooking; the fact is, I'm a good cook, and I like my food just so. Telling a woman "make pasta" would be on par with telling her to "make an atomic bomb." I can send her into the kitchen, and come back with a disaster of a meal, and be cranky that it wasn't what I wanted, orrrrr.... I can show her how I like it, teach her how to cook the way I like, and then set the bar. It took about eight months to teach my first slave how to cook for me. But this isn't just about me getting my belly fed.

Teaching my girl how I like her to cook, is a way for me to interact with her on an intimate, and basic level. It's setting rules, structure, and engaging in a teacher/mentor headspace that I relish. It also means giving her tangible, hands on ways to know how to please me.

After that, generally I like to leave the cooking to my girl outside of the grill; that's MY domain. Which illustrates another concept; that no matter where I am (kitchen, living room, bedroom, front porch) we are in my space. She is serving me, in my space, in all of these places. But I do understand the frustration a girl has, from time to time, if I choose to do something for myself. I think a little frustration in that area is actually helpful; it's a chance for her to remember how important doing those little things really is to us.

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 10:12:10 AM

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Quick reply:

I'm OK with it now. He is very controlling and likes to be the one doing things, like getting the drinks etc. He is extremely protective and flips the concept of slavery on its head and has the "Burger King" attitude of I'll have it the way I want it, if that doesn't "jive" with your fantasy life of slavery..too bad, so sad, get over it. I have learned to just enjoy it, there are people out there who would give anything to be treated this good.

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 12:10:53 PM

xoxi

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OMG Stephann that sounds *so* romantic! I would love for a guy to teach me how to cook for him...I mean don't get me wrong I can make a meal or two....but I'm certainly not a chef and I can't even name 20 spices much less tell you what they taste like

And I loooove when a man is outside grilling...probably because that was my father's 'domain' too...and to be honest my mom wasn't the most creative cook so when my dad grilled it was time for awesome food

But even as a kid I was always running around, getting him stuff like the brush to put bbq sauce on the meat, or bringing the plates out, or a drink cuz it was hot out or whatever...so I would so do the same for my bf.

I dated a guy once and the first time I went to his place he cooked me dinner. And he had like planned it out too...some awesome venison, and hand picked blackberries for dessert. It was so ungodly romantic that if I hadn't fallen for him already I would have done so right then and there!

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 12:22:04 PM

xoxi

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OK I'm sorry but this thread...combined with the one right below it called "D/s and Vanilla" is seriously making me crave a nice thick vanilla milkshake.

See y'all in a bit!

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 2:08:42 PM

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I'm not entirely convinced that 'service' is necessarily a submissive trait.

They both (Him and his wife) do a lot for me that could be considered 'service' but it doesn't detract from his Mastery. Overall, they're very nurturing. Sometimes she watches my um so me and Master can go play or to a munch, and she'll vaccuum my apartment, pick up or do dishes. He's changed my oil, made minor repairs around my apartment, made me go take a nap when I got over tired, and stuff like that. On occasion, he's given me a back rub or something, but I don't really like that kind of "personal service' though I accept it when he sees fit to provide it. Today, he poured me a cup of coffee when he was getting his own and will take care of little details like making sure the house is warm enough if they're going out and I'm staying.

Overall, it enhances our relationship in my mind by making me feel cared for and secure.

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 3:32:21 PM

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From the very beginning he did the things that he wanted to do. He took my bags and opened doors for me. He also sat down at a cafe, handed me $20 and said "Get me a mocha and get yourself whatever you want". That first week, he bathed and shaved me but he also made me cook for him, put his shoes on, get his coat... It all hinged on what he wanted in that moment.

Service is not the main way in which I express my love, devotion and submission. I express this through obedience. If that means that I sit obediently while he kneels in front of me and washes my feet, then that is what I do. If that means I run myself ragged fetching and doing things for him because he told me to, then that is what I do.

On the other hand, I do not enjoyed being waited on, and I love being of service to him. The frequency in which he waits on me is minimal enough that I do not have much of an issue with it and I can sit back and enjoy. However, he wants Alandra and I to be fulfilled as his slaves. Thankfully, more often than not what he wants is for her and I to do things for him, especially the things he doesn't want to bother with.

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 3:48:53 PM

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At a Pet Week once in Denmark, in 2001, I think, I took a pretty young TV girl, Susan, as a slave-girl. I put her up for auction on the the Thursday.

It was a week-long event, from the Sunday, so everybody had seen how I was making her do the ultra 'service-orientated-slavie' thing, fetching and carrying for me, curtsying to all and sundry right, left and centre, never speaking until spoken to, never sitting down until I gave the nod, eating until everyone else had their fill. And they saw how she was sooooo loving it.

A Domme bought her, 'forced' her to let her really beautiful, young and nude slave-girl help her dress really wonderfully prettily, (I had not let her wear anything at all feminine until then), and did her hair and make up, then had her sit down to have a meal served to her silver service style; she did not even have to help herself to vegetables, etc.

I think it was the most humiliating, embarrassing thing Susan had ever been expected to do, and she'd really done some apparently much more extreme stuff.

It was really funny for us all to watch, she was beetroot red!

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 4:16:33 PM

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It's always funny seeing slaves in their discomforted glory by teaching them that service does NOT equal submission and that service does NOT mean "them doing it all for me."

One of the hardest things slaves learn to surrender is their own pleasure.

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 5:41:50 PM

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quote:

service does NOT equal submission

I think I’m good with this sentiment.
Much like nature, *I* abhor a vacuum!

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 7:56:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

It's always funny seeing slaves in their discomforted glory by teaching them that service does NOT equal submission and that service does NOT mean "them doing it all for me."

One of the hardest things slaves learn to surrender is their own pleasure.

Now see, here I was all set to announce how weird I must be, as I would never have any kind of issue with a Dominant doing something which may be considered a "service" issue..I get no satisfaction from the act of service in and of itself..I get satisfaction doing the service that pleases him.So to view "service" chores as being my domain?..nah.....if "he" wants to get me a soda or rub my feet, than all I can say is have at it!!..I will suffer willingly..

....Tempting

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:08:43 PM

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It all depends on your relationship type. When Phoenix and I first started out she wanted a 24/7 slave relationship, and we tried that for a bit. She has grown to a 15/5 or some weeks 20/7, and is now looking for something totally different. Either way does not change my view on this subject.

My job as a dom is to look after her needs. I am a dom because she has a need to be dominated. . .that however is not her only need. She also has a need to sit down after a 12 hour shift of hard work, and relax. I will never forget when one day I ordered her to get one of those water foot massagers ready and put it in front of my chair (our only chair at the time). Then I ordered her to sit in the chair, and not to get up unless she asked. I got her a book and a drink. She wanted something just out of her reach, so I had to come in and get it for her. She told me she felt silly for having me do things for her, and getting something for her that was closer to her than it was to me. I went and got a pirates hat from Long John Silvers and put it on her head. That way she would know what silly felt like. Then I explained that she should never feel silly for following my orders.

Being a dom can mean that it is all about you, but it also means you have a responsibility to those you serve to make sure they are satisfied and fulfilled. Getting soda, or making them take relaxing time, or whatever your method, is about making sure they are cared for. It makes sure that they also know things like "you are good for more than service to me" and "I love you and want to see you smile".

Another example that I know I am not alone in, is that Phoenix is not allowed to open her own door if I am there. She may be my sub, but she is always a lady, and she is above having to open her own door. Little things are a great way to show someone they mean the world to you, and that for all the service they provide you, they are still special, precious, and cherished by you. It can say that you appreciate all the services they have given you, and they amaze you every day with their selflessness.

Maybe this isn't true for all relationships, but it is for me, and the type of relationship I want.
~Ki

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RE: Burger King Service - 10/2/2007 9:37:34 PM

Mercurialdame

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I love it when he pampers me. I have no hang up surrounding if he 'should' or not. I like it, why therefor question it?

I love to be wined dined, treated and pampered, cared for, loved, massaged, have lengerie bought for me, you name it, if its got 'spoil her rotten' written on it, im there!

no probs
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