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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 9:44:07 AM   
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My words make no difference to him. It was foolish and futile of me to even try, but trying to reach someone is something I do without thinking.
Maybe it is time to start thinking again?

I don't like to give up. When he first got here I was one of his supporters, he did make valid points. Especially about the habit of some to blindly follow in a thread once the first snarkiness rears its head. I do try and speak up when I see it.
However that point has been buried.

Things like this upset me far more than being snarked at in the occasional forum. Part of me wants to keep trying, actually that is most of me that wants to do that. But it gets tiresome to have everything twisted, and it is tiresome to have all those innuendos tossed at me. [those posts that insist that something is 'lacking/deficient/unkind/immoral/selfish or insert word of choice' when I think in a different direction than him].



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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 9:45:45 AM   
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Camille...welcome to the dark side.
This is our official symbol...

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:04:59 AM   
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Nooooo please don't make me stay on the Dark Side
I like my world where everyone is really n truly nice somewhere deep inside.
Where people really do have something good to offer if only they are given the chance to show it.
You know, that place where people care about others? Even complete strangers.

If I stay on the Dark Side I will end up needing some more medication hahahaha. Or is that Mwaaaaaah ?

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:10:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: camille65

Things like this upset me far more than being snarked at in the occasional forum. Part of me wants to keep trying, actually that is most of me that wants to do that. But it gets tiresome to have everything twisted, and it is tiresome to have all those innuendos tossed at me. [those posts that insist that something is 'lacking/deficient/unkind/immoral/selfish or insert word of choice' when I think in a different direction than him].




You are one of the sweetest people on this board, if not the sweetest. You really are. Don't let it get to you.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:12:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: camille65

My words make no difference to him. It was foolish and futile of me to even try, but trying to reach someone is something I do without thinking.
Maybe it is time to start thinking again?

I don't like to give up. When he first got here I was one of his supporters, he did make valid points. Especially about the habit of some to blindly follow in a thread once the first snarkiness rears its head. I do try and speak up when I see it.
However that point has been buried.

Things like this upset me far more than being snarked at in the occasional forum. Part of me wants to keep trying, actually that is most of me that wants to do that. But it gets tiresome to have everything twisted, and it is tiresome to have all those innuendos tossed at me. [those posts that insist that something is 'lacking/deficient/unkind/immoral/selfish or insert word of choice' when I think in a different direction than him].



So may I conclude that if I don't see things your way I am to be judged Hopeless?

And that is not "One True Way" because ... ?


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:21:32 AM   
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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

its quiet time, bob. don't make me take away your juicebox.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:22:08 AM   
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I don't know why but you literally do not see how you twist things. I'm sorry but I just can't continue this conversation with you, I do not know how to say things in a way where you understand what I am saying.

People are not hopeless Bob, just situations. This is taking more energy than I happen to have today so I am leaving this as is.  I just wish that somehow you could read what I say without turning into something I don't recognise.


Edit/oopsie, thankyou Aquatic (sorry but I think of you as Aquatic, sometimes wetchick, fishie, mermaid, but rarely as Aqua like everyone else calls you lol)

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:23:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xoxi

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

its quiet time, bob. don't make me take away your juicebox.



You are welcome to try...

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:29:24 AM   
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I don't know why but you literally do not see how you twist things. I'm sorry but I just can't continue this conversation with you, I do not know how to say things in a way where you understand what I am saying.

People are not hopeless Bob, just situations. This is taking more energy than I happen to have today so I am leaving this as is.  I just wish that somehow you could read what I say without turning into something I don't recognise.



I also wish you could read what I say without turning it into something it is not, Camille.

Last I checked a "discussion" involved two or more people in dialogue, sharing their own points of view.

It is a shame more people simply cannot "live and let live", accepting that others will have different points of view and not feel their own threatened by this fact.

When "discussion" is about -sharing- viewpoints, and not -converting- viewpoints, it is more enjoyable and more can be learned from it.

But as long as some view "discussion" as a battle of wits, rather than a sharing, we'll keep ending up with these kinds of threads.


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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:33:54 AM   
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The original post was all about whether or not one had "owned up" to being on prescriptive medicine due to a diagnosis. There's "owning up" to a Dom, Domme or submissive and then there is owning up to one's self.

Some years ago I ran across a couple who were happy, in love and so on. They planned to get married and they did so. Very nice.

She was submissive to his dominance and very pretty. He was very handsome. She was taking "mood normalizers" to deal with depression. Her doctor took her off medication as he diagnosed her as very happy and not in need of them any more. I believe there was a period of "weaning" so that the brain could restore naturally-occurring responses to chemistry.

They both attended a rather large BDSM event, held south of the Mason-Dixon Line on the East Coast. In her presence, he did something that was an absolute Limit for her with another woman - submissive. The Limit had to do with exclusivity with respect to certain things that don't bear going into. She wound up crying all night. Her newly-wed husband-Master had shown his true colors and then proceeded to "rewrite history" when she confronted him about it. History rewrites are generally a sign of certain abusive tendencies.

I feared for their relationship.

So, I'd wonder here whether or not her medications "smoothed over" his rough spots while they were dating, engaged, planning marriage, married and now the medications were no longer doing that, she was seeing him as he really was.

I suppose one ought to reveal what one is doing medically if one intends to have a serious relationship. In fact, it's a really good thing to tell a partner with whom you wish to have a long-term relationship whether or not you have had your appendix removed (so that a partner knows what to exclude in the case of a long-term tummy ache). But there is a flip side to this discussion. If you are on "mood elevators" and your physician intends to take you off them, you ought not commit to a long-term relationship until you have nothing coursing through your system that could make the other person's behaviors seem OK if they're behaving badly.

I suppose there is revealing to one's prospective partner and also revealing to one's self.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:35:18 AM   
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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:38:54 AM   
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So, I'd wonder here whether or not her medications "smoothed over" his rough spots while they were dating,


Oh jeeeeeeeeeeeez how many meds have I got to take then to smooth over everyone else's rough spots........hold on, if I'm going to take meds it's going to be for ME.......i think you are confusing their boundaries for them there.......

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:47:28 AM   
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~All you need's a sub
All you need's a sub
All you need's a sub's love
A sub is all you need~

Prinsexx





Bast

She purrs on my lap
Her hair, silken, her tail, touching
Her eyes, contentment.

Her claws sharp, kneading,
Her paws open and shut, soft,
Her tongue licks my thigh

Fingers trace her ears.
Running the line of her spine
She arches her back

A graceful motion
as she settles in again
and samples my flesh.





(sigh)

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:51:27 AM   
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Or is that Mwaaaaaah ?


Definitely.

And this too:   


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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:52:41 AM   
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i think you are confusing their boundaries for them there.......


There is ample room here for confusion, as I pretty much only heard her version of the story. Until he started "rewriting history" and saying that the scene we all witnessed did not happen.

You are, of course, absolutely right. One takes medications for one's self. But if one intends (or one's doctor intends) to come off those medications that are altering brain chemistry in a significant way, one ought to make decisions based on reality.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 10:52:49 AM   
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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 11:13:50 AM   
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But if one intends (or one's doctor intends) to come off those medications that are altering brain chemistry in a significant way, one ought to make decisions based on reality.


I'm sorry I am not very good at figuring out (never was) whom the polite person 'one' refers to........
~one opught to make decisions based on reality~ i cannot agree with as my definition of reality is 'consciousness based on a loose consensus'.....

so i didin't understand what you meant/mean.....
sorry long day.......totally unreal...........


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 11:16:08 AM   
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maybe I am supposed to loose the plot....?

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 11:21:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: susie

POT AND KETTLE


maybe I am supposed to loose the plot....?



She's referring to that old adage: "The pot calling the kettle 'black'"

She's being sub-tle.



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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 11:37:54 AM   
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Somehow, I don't think subtle was the intent there.

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