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RE: Attire - 10/17/2005 7:15:13 PM   
Downranger


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Status: offline 		"Shirk" - To place anyone, or thing on a par with Allah, this is THE unforgivable sin in Islam, for a Muslim. It is forgiven of if it occured in your life before coverting to Islam. Christians are accused of Shirk due to the placing of Jesus as the "Son of God" and prayre to the Saints. A humble note from an interrogator who has just come back from "the Sandbox"

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RE: Attire - 10/17/2005 8:56:00 PM   
Soulhuntre


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ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan
I wonder how this company justified such an outragious dress code.


While it is currently not "PC" to say this, I think companies shoudl be free to define whatever dress code they chose. Especially if the appearance of their staff is being used to create an image and that staff is in direct contact with clients. I can absolutely sea jewelry store wanting to make use of this mode of dress.

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RE: Attire - 10/17/2005 8:59:07 PM   
Soulhuntre


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ORIGINAL: tinkJH
Just a wondering question.. Personal Experiance. What happens when she can no longer wear the heels?


In this house that would mean she may well then be be unsuitable for some purposes that would be better done in nice high heels. That might keep her from being taken to some social events, lent for use to others and it would probably diminish how often she was sexually used by me.

It's not fair, but it's life :)

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RE: Attire - 10/17/2005 9:01:06 PM   
Soulhuntre


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ORIGINAL: Superman42280
What attire do you request your sub/slave to wear most often?


Generally at home its things and mens shirt, kimono style robes or a short t-shirt (casual times).

Other than that my preference is jeans or shorts and a crop top or tight t-shirt.

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RE: Attire - 10/17/2005 11:03:24 PM   
KittenWithaTwist


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Status: offline 		Hm, as a submissive I've never had a dress code. I usually wander around the house in little to zero clothing (because it's comfortable) and when I work I wear work clothes, and when we go out, I go the sexy route. I don't really think my Master has a clothing preference. He thinks I look cute in just about anything. *grin*

As for my own submissives, again, I'm stick with comfort level. I don't really have any major clothing fetishes or kinks. I like tight jeans on some bodies and not on others. I like revealing but not downright slutty clothing in public on a girl but as long as she looked respectable, it wouldn't be an issue to me.

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RE: Attire - 10/17/2005 11:13:54 PM   
Wolfie648


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quote:

For all the Masters/Doms out there....

What attire do you request your sub/slave to wear most often?

I asked the slaves this, now it's your turn. Thanks.


My genitals, testicles deep. ;-)

D (owner of j)

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RE: Attire - 10/18/2005 4:44:38 PM   
WickedKev


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Superman42280


For all the Masters/Doms out there....

What attire do you request your sub/slave to wear most often?

I asked the slaves this, now it's your turn. Thanks.




I always want my slave to look elegant with a touch of slut.

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RE: Attire - 11/1/2005 4:05:11 AM   
Nightguy


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Status: offline 		Since "clothing control" is a major fetish of mine, this is a large part of any D/s relationship I have.
My usual object is to see to it that no matter what she wears, she feels her slavery because of it. This can come from simply being nude at home all the time, all the way to wearing something sensuous for a night out.
But I tend to prefer the girl next door style, rather than the slut, so in good weather simple cotton sun dresses with nothing underneath do well in most public situations. And in the winter, if you are going someplace where you dont have to take off your coat, then why wear anything underneath it? :)
You can have fun playing games with clothing rules too. For example, set a weight limit for her entire outfit...she can wear what she likes but what she wears cant weigh over a pound. Or, she can wear what she likes, but no single piece of clothing can touch another single piece of clothing. Or at the start of the day, she can roll a die to determine what body part she has to completely expose or at least cover minimally.
You can have a lot of fun with things like this!

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RE: Attire - 11/1/2005 8:07:28 AM   
Littlepita


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Status: offline 		For one thing on Google it's spelled Sirik and this is what it looks like for those that don't know. http://www.dreamstrike.com/bazaar/sirikmain.html

My Sir and I aren't Gorean but we like some things about it and he loves the Sirik and has made me one to wear when we are together.

He will also choose my clothes for me. I already know that it will consist of dresses or skirts with tops that allow him easy acesses and no panties allowed. He has wonderful taste so I am very much looking forward to being dressed by him.

I am also trying to learn how to walk in high heels. Not that easy when you have gone almost 40 years not wearing them and living in flip flops.

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RE: Attire - 11/3/2005 1:01:32 AM   
MasterStar


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Status: offline 		My very 1st. act of obedience 4 all my slaves has had 2 do w/ clothing in 1 form or another...it is something they R used 2 choosing 4 themselves, used 2 shopping 4, and used 2 trying on repeatedly......I merely adapted what they were accustomed 2 2 fit My needs/tastes. My first request of them was that their undergarments ALWAYS match w/o question...it was an Xcellent training tool 4 the newbies. Secondly, when performing specific duties, they were given appropriate outfits 4 the task....these were rewards 4 obedience that they could, in turn, use later in their service 2 Me. A long tradition that I aquired from an elder Master was 2 require My slaves 2 prepare specific outfits 4 Me on reoccuring occassions...ie: My favorite ratty jersey 4 football games (which is 2 B washed by hand), My suits 4 court appearances (which must be 100% free of lint & brushed by hand) They were small doable tasks that set a precedent 4 later training. Outfits, uniforms & other clothing have always been a part of the lifestyle & I hope this will continue 2 B so.

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RE: Attire - 11/4/2005 6:53:12 AM   
Evanesce


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Status: offline 		I was recently evaluating a potential house slave and the subject of his attire came up several times. He had, in his first email to me said things like, "you may have me wear X or Y or be nude. It is your choice." (well, DUH!) So I asked him a hypothetical, "what if we want you to wear Z?" Because he liked that idea, he apparently decided that it was exactly what we were going to have him wear. He was wrong. It was purely a "what if," and I had to tell him this multiple times.

Ultimately, in a face-to-face meeting with both Master and myself (he and I had met twice before that), he "demanded" that we tell him what he would be required to wear as our slave. Now, Master and I hadn't even had a chance to discuss that, because He'd been gone the prior two weeks, but I told this potential slave that I was considering making his "house uniform" a pair of black boxer briefs and a black mesh tank (I think it's kinda sexy). The guy argued with me, and said he was "more comfortable" in bikini briefs (I HATE bikini briefs on men!). Like I would even care about a slave's preference in underwear.

Anyway... to make a long story short, for many reasons, Master and I decided this guy was just way too much trouble than he was worth, and I informed him a couple days later that we had no need of his "services." The guy then not-so-politely informed me that, "Boxer briefs and a t-shirt are not 'proper' slave attire," (along with a number of other do-me-type ramblings).

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RE: Attire - 11/4/2005 9:33:57 AM   
OrlandoMars


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Status: offline 		I tend to takes subs who have a strong sense of personal identity that stretches to how they dress. Although I am a big fan of lingerie and heels I happen to think that looking sexy comes from within and that a woman can look devastating in just a teeshirt and sweatpants. Occaisionally I'll attend a l/s function and then I'll require a certain dress code (usually leather) but other than that, part of the game for me is seeing how my sub will suprise me.

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RE: Attire - 11/5/2005 10:48:20 PM   
Nightguy


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Status: offline 		Sounds like you did the right thing, Evanesce.
It wasn't about the clothes, just about a conflict of his idea and your idea of what a "slave" should be like.
He had this perfect image in his head, and you were spoiling it for him. :)
But getting back to the clothing issue, I think that while it is important to listen to what your submissive is telling you (who knows, they may actually turn you on to a new idea that you hadn't even thought of), ultimately...as in all things...it is the Dom's preference that should prevail.
I hope your search proved fruitful in the end.

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RE: Attire - 11/5/2005 11:28:05 PM   
IronBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Downranger

"Shirk" - To place anyone, or thing on a par with Allah, this is THE unforgivable sin in Islam, for a Muslim. It is forgiven of if it occured in your life before coverting to Islam. Christians are accused of Shirk due to the placing of Jesus as the "Son of God" and prayre to the Saints. A humble note from an interrogator who has just come back from "the Sandbox"


Greetings Downranger,

Thank you for the lesson on the Muslim meaning and use of the word shirk. I live and learn new things almost daily. Did you know that "Shirk" is also an Australian slang word meaning to slack off; hand back and let others do your share of the work. "Shirker"; Some one who is lazy esp. at the expence of others.

However Sir, I was not refering to, nor did I write the word "SHIRK" but I wrote and intended, was the term "SHIRIK". A shirik is where the ankles and wrists of a Gorean slave are cuffed with a length of chain berween wrist cuffs allowing the slave to work and the chain between her ankles hobbling her is set to a length to force her to walk to a predestined pace length. Usually there is a ring at the center of the ankle shain to which a length of chain is attached with the other end is attached to her collar. usually a waist level there is a ring fixes the this chain through whish is passed the wrist chain. The Shirik may be worn over clothes or replace clothes altogether and thuses to display a slave in a naked and chained manner pleasing to the Gorean Free. I am fond of using a Shirik as when the slave is nakid and shiriked she is constantly reminded of her slavery, especially when serving her master and guests at a dinner, especally if she is belled (ankles and wrists) as well.

"May the grains of sand from the sand box not stick to your soul and become an irritant. But rather allow the grains of sand to act as a scourge to cleanse the soul so you may awak on the morrow refreshed and cleansed. What is written in the sands of the desert will quickly be wiped clear as the winds clean all things from the sands. Waht is written in stone will last just a little longer, for all things change in time. ~ IB"

< Message edited by IronBear -- 11/5/2005 11:33:35 PM >

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RE: Attire - 11/5/2005 11:57:59 PM   
Evanesce


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quote:

Sounds like you did the right thing, Evanesce.
It wasn't about the clothes, just about a conflict of his idea and your idea of what a "slave" should be like.
He had this perfect image in his head, and you were spoiling it for him. :)
But getting back to the clothing issue, I think that while it is important to listen to what your submissive is telling you (who knows, they may actually turn you on to a new idea that you hadn't even thought of), ultimately...as in all things...it is the Dom's preference that should prevail.
I hope your search proved fruitful in the end.


It hasn't yet, but at least I learned a very valuable lesson... that when my initial reaction to someone is that they are too aggressive and pushy (even for ME!), I need to tell them thanks, but no thanks, and not waste my time.

Oh... the other thing the guy told me about his attire was that I must not be capable of handling looking at "a man who is more revealing." Sheesh... I see naked men all the time. I just like boxer briefs and mesh tank tops.

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Give a slave what he truly needs, and he will do what you want.

"There's never a hero in a battle of ego." - Big & Rich


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RE: Attire - 11/6/2005 9:18:23 AM   
candystripper


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However Sir, I was not refering to, nor did I write the word "SHIRK" but I wrote and intended, was the term "SHIRIK". A shirik is where the ankles and wrists of a Gorean slave are cuffed with a length of chain berween wrist cuffs allowing the slave to work and the chain between her ankles hobbling her is set to a length to force her to walk to a predestined pace length. Usually there is a ring at the center of the ankle shain to which a length of chain is attached with the other end is attached to her collar. usually a waist level there is a ring fixes the this chain through whish is passed the wrist chain. The Shirik may be worn over clothes or replace clothes altogether and thuses to display a slave in a naked and chained manner pleasing to the Gorean Free. I am fond of using a Shirik as when the slave is nakid and shiriked she is constantly reminded of her slavery, especially when serving her master and guests at a dinner, especally if she is belled (ankles and wrists) as well.

IronBear


OOOOOOO, wanna try this, LOL. Chains just do something for me that rope does not...i have a fantasy about sleeping with one ankle chained (long enough to reach the ladies' room) to the bedpost. And other chain fantasises..Gawd...wanna emigrate IronBear -- Neets, tell Him yes, yes???????

<bats eyelashes>

candystripper

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RE: Attire - 11/6/2005 9:25:15 AM   
xilet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

What I HEAR for female subs is high heels, sheer blouse with or without bra, no panties, stockings and possibly garter belt and black little skirt. Nude at home.

The Owner doesn't really request anything though he is amused by my outfits and dressing up and enjoys sexier/trashier items, the boyfriend for some reason adores my green corset so asks for that a lot.

I tend to like my men either in business/three-piece suits or a funky tshirt and jeans. Although the Owner wore cargo shorts to the movies last weekend and it was a bit weird for me knowing that he was wearing the same thing that my boyfriend who is over 30 years younger than him was wearing.


Well you do look good in it =)

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RE: Attire - 8/13/2006 3:28:24 AM   
SexSlaveRei


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Status: offline 		Excuse me...but anyone know of a good slave outfit...store or something...? My Mistress wants a slave outfit for me...but...I dont know where one is..

Help?

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RE: Attire - 8/13/2006 7:53:06 AM   
Ladyofthemanor


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Status: offline 		In public, i have a protocol of skirt, top, bra, no panties...pantyhose if the crotch is cut out.  Since i am BBW who has bred.  i like the look of a girdle under my clothes, Master and i agreed to tummy control panyhose, with the crotch cut out, and it works perfectly, Master has access to his cunt's cunt, and i don't feel so fat.  Master's idea is for me to look my best, and desirable when we are out in public.  At events/play parties i have some fetish attire i wear.  Because it is not sometimes what you wear but the attitude you are wearing it with it.  if you show confidence, and self-esteem, people will be drawn to you, and that is what Master likes about me.

At home, T-shirt/short..nothing else.  At night after the kiddies are in bed.  Naked and chained.

Oh..BTW...watch traveling chained up... W/we almost got pulled over by the police.  Lucky for me, Master has a quick release, so when he passed by, the cop didn't see anything!

slavelilly 

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RE: Attire - 8/14/2006 6:33:50 PM   
Littlepita


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Status: offline 		Good grief I just saw that I had already posted on this thread.

< Message edited by Littlepita -- 8/14/2006 6:37:08 PM >

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