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ExSteelAgain -> RE: speech help (10/5/2007 1:32:01 AM)
The key here is that she felt bad enough that she didn’t want to play. Sure the spanking probably would have done no real harm as LA says, but I would have respected her feeling bad. It is a subjective matter. I wasn’t going to bring this up before, but I spanked a sub who was pretty sick one time. As it turned out she ended up being admitted to the hospital the next day with a very high fever and having emergency surgery a few days later. I had not seen her in a good while and although she was ill, she wanted me to spank her. She later said it was one of her best spankings ever. They key here is that she wanted to be spanked because she knew it would make her feel better for awhile and I was happy to oblige. Illness is not necessarily a stopper. On the other hand, I was once going to cane a perfectly healthy sub whom I had caned many times before. After two blows, she said that made her head hurt which was a different type complaint for her. I stopped and went into something much milder. It is all about knowing each other well. I knew she didn’t wimp out. When she said something there was a reason. I listened. You have to have that close connection and communication. There should be no fear in saying anything. Something is amiss with your connection.

Owner4SexSlave -> RE: speech help (10/5/2007 3:12:27 AM)
Dearest stateira, I am troubled by your post. First and foremost being a master should mean one should responsible for both themself and their sub/slave. Part of being a Master involves knowing their sub/slave inside and out. However, Masters just like sub/slaves are human beings. He is in denial that there could be anything physically/medical wrong going on with you. This is my take on the matter. This is not a D/s or M/s matter. This is not an issue of you having to cross a submissive line. It's a matter of his own hard headedness. Has nothing to do with BDSM itself. I would reasset yourself and what is going on with him. Provided you do it respectfully and stand your ground on this issue. Many Masters have their slaves/subs write in a Journal and will read it. One of the reasons for using a journal, is that it becomes a communication tool. Some Masters allow protocals for a sub/slave to assert herself with questions or let Master know when if there are any major issues that need to be dealt with. It's obvious he has been made aware of the problem, just that he's too hard headed to believe you are being honest with him. Now, he is treating you with the regards of being a liar. Trust is one of the cornerstones of any relationships. He he honestly feels that you are just trying to make him miserable, what is the point to having a M/s relationship at all then? He needs to come to terms that you are telling the truth take it into consideration and assume control and responsibility for it. He can not change your medical condition, it is something beyond his control. Mentally he has not grasped this concept yet. That there are things in this world he can not change, inorder to Master it he must first understand it. I am suprised he has not done research into your condition, perhaps he does need to consult with your Doctor. This is why Doctors are willing to share information (with consent) to one's family members or loved ones. To help them better understand what is going on. Somebody mentioned getting a note from the doctor, as radical as that sounds, it carries a lot truth to it. A wise master will be deeply concerned with the condition and state of their sub/slave. Makes me question how well this guy treats his actually phyiscal property along with people in his non BDSM lifestyle relationships. Just because one is a Master does not make them a good or wise human being. I honestly believe a Master should be held to higher standards, compared to most people. I would say, press the issue even if you break protocal to do so. Any sub/slave that breaks protocal should be a clear message to any master that it's a serious matter. All else fails, break the golden rule of Obey, if will be forced to deal with the problem or release you. Do not be afraid of crossing this line if you have to, if will force your Master to take action one way or another. A sub/slave should be responsible to find and submit to Master that she can be a mirror of. Hence, in part why a slave is a reflection of her master. I would suggest you write him a letter, explaining how difficult it is. Write about the good things you value in your relationship and express the problem your medical condition presents. If there are links to websites with information about it, provide him with a list. If there is any literature you can obtain from your Doctor, include this with your letter. Present enough honest and logical information that it's difficult for him to ingore and be in denial about.

laurell3 -> RE: speech help (10/5/2007 3:17:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: came4U Kick him in the nuts and ask him to spank you. Ask him if it hurts, if he says yes, I think he is faking it, kick him again just to make sure. LOL. Yeah, a "submissive" way....you are first a human being and deserve common respect always regardless of your role. Maybe you should start your sentence with "with all due respect" but I'd throw in a get the hell out of my life somewhere if it was me. l

heartcream -> RE: speech help (10/5/2007 3:18:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: came4U Kick him in the nuts and ask him to spank you. Ask him if it hurts, if he says yes, I think he is faking it, kick him again just to make sure. omg i am laughing. i love it.

heartcream -> RE: speech help (10/5/2007 3:22:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave Dearest stateira, I am troubled by your post. First and foremost being a master should mean one should responsible for both themself and their sub/slave. Part of being a Master involves knowing their sub/slave inside and out. However, Masters just like sub/slaves are human beings. He is in denial that there could be anything physically/medical wrong going on with you. This is my take on the matter. This is not a D/s or M/s matter. This is not an issue of you having to cross a submissive line. It's a matter of his own hard headedness. Has nothing to do with BDSM itself. I would reasset yourself and what is going on with him. Provided you do it respectfully and stand your ground on this issue. Many Masters have their slaves/subs write in a Journal and will read it. One of the reasons for using a journal, is that it becomes a communication tool. Some Masters allow protocals for a sub/slave to assert herself with questions or let Master know when if there are any major issues that need to be dealt with. It's obvious he has been made aware of the problem, just that he's too hard headed to believe you are being honest with him. Now, he is treating you with the regards of being a liar. Trust is one of the cornerstones of any relationships. He he honestly feels that you are just trying to make him miserable, what is the point to having a M/s relationship at all then? He needs to come to terms that you are telling the truth take it into consideration and assume control and responsibility for it. He can not change your medical condition, it is something beyond his control. Mentally he has not grasped this concept yet. That there are things in this world he can not change, inorder to Master it he must first understand it. I am suprised he has not done research into your condition, perhaps he does need to consult with your Doctor. This is why Doctors are willing to share information (with consent) to one's family members or loved ones. To help them better understand what is going on. Somebody mentioned getting a note from the doctor, as radical as that sounds, it carries a lot truth to it. A wise master will be deeply concerned with the condition and state of their sub/slave. Makes me question how well this guy treats his actually phyiscal property along with people in his non BDSM lifestyle relationships. Just because one is a Master does not make them a good or wise human being. I honestly believe a Master should be held to higher standards, compared to most people. I would say, press the issue even if you break protocal to do so. Any sub/slave that breaks protocal should be a clear message to any master that it's a serious matter. All else fails, break the golden rule of Obey, if will be forced to deal with the problem or release you. Do not be afraid of crossing this line if you have to, if will force your Master to take action one way or another. A sub/slave should be responsible to find and submit to Master that she can be a mirror of. Hence, in part why a slave is a reflection of her master. I would suggest you write him a letter, explaining how difficult it is. Write about the good things you value in your relationship and express the problem your medical condition presents. If there are links to websites with information about it, provide him with a list. If there is any literature you can obtain from your Doctor, include this with your letter. Present enough honest and logical information that it's difficult for him to ingore and be in denial about. this sounds like the kind of Master you need to find, stateira.

GoldStallion -> RE: speech help (10/5/2007 3:48:22 AM)
I think the OP should stay in the relationship. There post suggests its a much needed learning opportunity. My advice: Invest in lots of expensive BDSM toys and convert at least two thirds of the house into a dungeon. Try not to annoy the mastur at all, otherwise he might get annoyed. As for your pain and problems, just use any opiate based painkiller to numb it all. The musician Steve Albini uses and endorses heroin, and he makes great records, so you might want to follow his example. OR, why not get a blow up ass for him to spank when you are feeling too pathetic or high to take it? Gradually add other parts to the blow up ass, until you have a full version of you or something that resembled the old you (before you got into the heroin) and then you can nip out to the shops feeling fine while he spanks "the ass". You could even give "the ass" some of your medical conditions to add realism - BUTT, and this is an important butt, make sure you dont give "the ass" symptoms at the same time you have symptoms or the master might be placed into some kind of hellish cycle of having problems wherever he turns. If, after 30 years, things have either not improved or got worse,then perhaps BDSM, or this relationship, is not for you - you should have taken up a hobby instead. Probably. Please dont ask for clarification or underlying thinking behind this advice, there isnt any that a sub would understand; assuming they are indeed a sub and not just dressing up and being told what to do because it gives them some kind of sick thrill. Hope that helps.

came4U -> RE: speech help (10/7/2007 8:27:25 PM)
quote: I think the OP should stay in the relationship. There post suggests its a much needed learning opportunity oh my, I had a long day and I hope that post was a joke??? if not... yeah, ooook, let her be his mentor and guide into the basics of empathy. While she is at it, why can't she also teach him to wipe his own ass because his momma obviously didn't teach the basics either. No one wants to be someone's practice-fodder.

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