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Punishments - 10/5/2007 6:32:22 AM

sweetcreeangel

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if you are a highly sexual being and on punishment and not allowed any type of release is it normal for your Dom to tease and torment you into wanting to break during the allotted days of punishment?if so how long does this last for?

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 6:50:55 AM

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I think that would be a question for your Dom? one that he very probably won't answer either

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 6:53:16 AM

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If it were a punishment and you weren't actually suffering, it wouldn't be much of a punishment then, now would it?

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 8:25:39 AM

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What is your pussy teaching you about screwing up?

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 8:25:55 AM

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Yes, and however long he sees fit.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 8:42:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

if you are a highly sexual being and on punishment and not allowed any type of release is it normal for your Dom to tease and torment you into wanting to break during the allotted days of punishment?if so how long does this last for?

Normal for... who?

We don't use sex and orgasm denial as a punishment so it would be completely abnormal for Valyraen to do so.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 9:10:10 AM

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If it were a punishment and you weren't actually suffering, it wouldn't be much of a punishment then, now would it?

And if he is only teasing and not actually bringing you to the edge of one and then denying you he is being gentle.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 9:23:45 AM

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My Master and I try to make the punishments either directly related to the infraction or something that will help me prevent it from happening in the future. We both firmly believe in not taking away other parts of our relationship for something not even close to the infraction so unless I screwed up sexually I would not get punished sexually.

To answer the OP how long, if both of you this punishment works for you then how long is also dependent totally up to both of you. It is personal in nature that too short would not get the lesson learned and too long could cause damage to the relationship.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 9:44:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

if you are a highly sexual being and on punishment and not allowed any type of release is it normal for your Dom to tease and torment you into wanting to break during the allotted days of punishment?if so how long does this last for?

First of all, it's the Dom's choice what is and is not "normal" as a punishment. But I'd have to say yes. He wants you to learn a lesson. Just "not getting any" may not be as much of a lesson as making you want it, crave it, and then denying you the satisfaction of having it. THAT will teach a lesson. Obviously you didn't like it, which is why you're on here asking. The problem is, you don't think it's fair, or normal, or natural, which means either you aren't sorry and haven't learned yet, you are refusing the lesson and rebelling instead, or something to that extent. In any case, it isn't making you as a sub look very good.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 9:55:18 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arastella

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

if you are a highly sexual being and on punishment and not allowed any type of release is it normal for your Dom to tease and torment you into wanting to break during the allotted days of punishment?if so how long does this last for?

First of all, it's the Dom's choice what is and is not "normal" as a punishment. But I'd have to say yes. He wants you to learn a lesson. Just "not getting any" may not be as much of a lesson as making you want it, crave it, and then denying you the satisfaction of having it. THAT will teach a lesson. Obviously you didn't like it, which is why you're on here asking. The problem is, you don't think it's fair, or normal, or natural, which means either you aren't sorry and haven't learned yet, you are refusing the lesson and rebelling instead, or something to that extent. In any case, it isn't making you as a sub look very good.

I would suggest instead of going well you are not much of a sub route that you just might consider not all punishments are created equal and the effectiveness is based on the individual’s reactions to them.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 11:53:22 AM

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Master wants to do that whole cum on command thing, so I seriously doubt that He would tie sex, and orgasm to punishment. In my mind that would be counter productive, and equate it(sex and orgasms) with something negative.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 1:35:06 PM

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quote:

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if you are a highly sexual being and on punishment and not allowed any type of release is it normal for your Dom to tease and torment you into wanting to break during the allotted days of punishment?if so how long does this last for?

That doesn't sound much like punishment at all.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 1:38:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arastella
First of all, it's the Dom's choice what is and is not "normal" as a punishment. But I'd have to say yes. He wants you to learn a lesson. Just "not getting any" may not be as much of a lesson as making you want it, crave it, and then denying you the satisfaction of having it. THAT will teach a lesson. Obviously you didn't like it, which is why you're on here asking. The problem is, you don't think it's fair, or normal, or natural, which means either you aren't sorry and haven't learned yet, you are refusing the lesson and rebelling instead, or something to that extent. In any case, it isn't making you as a sub look very good.

I would suggest instead of going well you are not much of a sub route that you just might consider not all punishments are created equal and the effectiveness is based on the individual’s reactions to them.

Very true. Just denying me sex and orgasm would be an extreme punishment. Doing what the OP's owner is doing? Cruel and unusual as a punishment, particularly over several days. I can't even think of something I could possibly do that would make him punish me that harshly where he wouldn't just release me.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 6:16:25 PM

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My assumption is that he isn't very bright. Women put on long term denial find that their sexuality gets turned off. Indeed, I would be surprised if you didn't find that you were unable to orgasm even if given permission because your body will be expecting refusal should this go on for 6-10 weeks.

What happens if you stop becoming aroused and you don't want sex with him? He can't hold it out as a reward or use it as punishment then. Besides all it teaches you is that you shouldn't become aroused with him because it's a bad experience. Is this what he wants? Because if so, you ought to think twice about being with someone who wants you to not enjoy sex. And if it isn't what he wants, yet he's risking it anyway by not doing any research into female sexuality, all you are learning is that he isn't smart enough to have control of your sexuality.

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 7:20:14 PM

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My assumption is that he isn't very bright. Women put on long term denial find that their sexuality gets turned off. Indeed, I would be surprised if you didn't find that you were unable to orgasm even if given permission because your body will be expecting refusal should this go on for 6-10 weeks.

What happens if you stop becoming aroused and you don't want sex with him? He can't hold it out as a reward or use it as punishment then. Besides all it teaches you is that you shouldn't become aroused with him because it's a bad experience. Is this what he wants? Because if so, you ought to think twice about being with someone who wants you to not enjoy sex. And if it isn't what he wants, yet he's risking it anyway by not doing any research into female sexuality, all you are learning is that he isn't smart enough to have control of your sexuality.

I must agree heartily with this post. Talk about a mind phuck that turns physical and into another mind phuck! Shouldn't we know what we can do before the process of doing it?

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 8:44:06 PM

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Reference the Universal Master's Bible, page 43, section 2B

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 8:44:17 PM

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to be honest not to screw up this is torture

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RE: Punishments - 10/5/2007 10:46:41 PM

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Exactly what would forbidding orgasm and then teasing you to break the rule accomplish? He's treating this like a game with no mutually understood rules.

Get clarity on what the goals and pathways are.

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RE: Punishments - 10/6/2007 2:23:58 AM

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Exactly what would forbidding orgasm and then teasing you to break the rule accomplish? He's treating this like a game with no mutually understood rules.

Get clarity on what the goals and pathways are.

Depends, if it's understood between the two that he's an insatiable torturing tease who revels in his control over her even to the point of overcumming her own desperate attempts to control herself to fulfill his command, then it wouldn't be unusual - just torturous play.

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RE: Punishments - 10/6/2007 4:44:13 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

if you are a highly sexual being and on punishment and not allowed any type of release is it normal for your Dom to tease and torment you into wanting to break during the allotted days of punishment?if so how long does this last for?

Yikes, I'm having difficulty just getting my head around "days of punishment". Hasn't he got anything better to do? Of course I'm assuming that punishment is meant to be what the word suggests - NOT FUN for either....

Focus.

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