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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/7/2007 1:36:40 PM   
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I know that it gets hard sometimes wanting to kiss and snuggle and you can't because your so far, but i take alot of comfort knowing we are working towards being together forever and knowing i will be spending my life with him makes the wait easier.  I have the rest of my life to please him and make him happy.  To wait a few years till we have the money and all the right peperwork done is worth it.



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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/7/2007 7:10:56 PM   
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I've done it.  I don't regret moving to Chile even a little bit.  I was able to find myself in a way I never could have here in the US.

Your milage may vary, of course.  From what I know of the situation, I'd say go for it; but with a few caveats and reasons.  Go, because you're obviously not content in your current life.  This isn't to say you're miserable; I think everyone should travel a little, for the sake of travelling alone.  Just make it clear you're not travelling 'for' him; he may be the catalyst, but you're making this trip for you.

Bring enough money so that you can support yourself for one month should he not even show up at the airport.  I remember when I arrived in Chile, things went pretty bad with the woman I met.  I had to be self-sufficiant within two weeks; it wasn't easy let me tell you.  You really have no way to know 100% that he's not married or engaged, not in a wheelchair, and short of having seen him on webcam, that he is who he says he is.  He might be living in his mother's basement.  The possibilities of things going horribly wrong, relationship wise, are endless.  Don't go into it with your eyes closed is the point; be prepared for the worst.

Get a round trip flight for that one month.  You can decide, later, if you want to pay to move the flight back (or forward) if need be.  If you end up loving where you are, one month is pretty good in terms of knowing for sure.  If you end up hating it, you won't be stuck there so long that you can't get back in a reasonable amount of time.

Learn everything you can about where you're going.  That should be obvious, but you need to do it from a survival perspective; day one, you won't have a car, a home, or family to help in case of an emergancy.  You'll pretty much only be able to take what you can carry, physically (invest in a backpacker's backpack, and a big suitcase with wheels.)  Take minimal clothing; bring five days worth of clothes, plus 'necessities' (a dress for job interviews, for example.)  Three pairs of shoes should be the limit; remember you have to carry this stuff.  Bring photographs, but limit yourself to two or three books.  Maybe something that you really like, decoration wise to adorn your new space wherever it may be, to at least offer a sense of comfort from 'home.'

Find a job there, as quickly as humanly possible.  I'm not sure how Australia is about working and visas, but I remember having no trouble working in Chile without a visa.  The US and Japan are pretty naziish about worker's visas, while Latin America has a much more relaxed approach to them.  I wouldn't imagine it being too daunting to get a worker's visa in Australia though; it's traditionally been very immigrant friendly.  I know working after week two won't sound very thrilling in terms of the new relationship, but if you end up there five or six weeks (and your return ticket has expired) and you catch him sleeping with another woman, you could find yourself in a seriously difficult situation quickly. 

Yes, a lot of my advice makes the assumption that the guy won't work out.  The reason I give it is because there's a very good chance that exactly that will happen.  If it doesn't, at least you are ready for it.  If it does work out, then your hard work and planning for the worst won't be wasted; it'll help establish you in a new country and life with a sensible approach.

Good luck!

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/8/2007 8:10:45 AM   
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quote:

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I've done it.  I don't regret moving to Chile even a little bit.  I was able to find myself in a way I never could have here in the US.

Your milage may vary, of course.  ....

 
yeah... Chile and Australia are very comparable with regards to thier immigration polices and procedures.... NOT

I suppose that is why the milage would vary. 

To the OP... Learn the Immigration polices of Australia...  I might not be a huge immigration issue just to fly there and get a job.. or it might be a huge issue.   Be free to be reckless if you want or be Free to be extremely careful or find some where in between.  Either way... don't risk any thing you are not prepared to lose or the consequences of said risk.


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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/8/2007 12:51:48 PM   
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Well, we're muddling through...so far so good.  I'm fortunate enough to be able to travel to BC every couple of months or so, and that does help a lot.  I will count myself lucky that we don't have border issues as well.  Now, I just have to hold out long enough to take my pension and run away from home!
 
My Vonage phone is a Vancouver number (rings through to my cell) which means I'm always a local call for her.  I do like the way they email my voicemail messages to me.
 
Best of luck to you; it is amazing what people can overcome if they're determined enough.
 
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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/9/2007 9:43:41 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Stephann

I've done it.  I don't regret moving to Chile even a little bit.  I was able to find myself in a way I never could have here in the US.

Your milage may vary, of course.  ....

 
yeah... Chile and Australia are very comparable with regards to thier immigration polices and procedures.... NOT

I suppose that is why the milage would vary. 

To the OP... Learn the Immigration polices of Australia...  I might not be a huge immigration issue just to fly there and get a job.. or it might be a huge issue.   Be free to be reckless if you want or be Free to be extremely careful or find some where in between.  Either way... don't risk any thing you are not prepared to lose or the consequences of said risk.



As I said, I wouldn't imagine it to be too daunting.  I wasn't attempting to address the specifics of working in Australia (or any other country) so much as my experience with travelling overseas.  The biggest point was for her to bring enough to support herself for the entire time she would be abroad, should things not pan out well with the guy.

http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/index.htm

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/9/2007 1:10:02 PM   
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I am from Australia, my Master from Virginia USA. I have had a long distance r/ship with my Master for two and a half years now. I can honestly say its been difficult, even though we communicated by phone and online to say the least it just wasnt enough. I am at the moment in Va with him and in the process of waiting to see in my applicatation for an extension visa has been granted so i can stay here for more than my allotted 90 days stay. I have flown back and forth from Australia to the US at least 6 times in two years to be with Him. The expense is enormous, the difficulty with immigration even bigger. We are trying to stay as positive as we can in all of this. We are hoping that we can marry soon and i can apply for a green card by marriage, but after speaking with US immigration even this is not a 100% surety of being allowed to stay in the country. The do have the authority to deny..So what happens next?..What if we marry and they deny my application..what am i to do, go home to Australia, and have my husband living in an entirely different country than i?..Yes its tough both mentally and emotionally but we both knew what kinds of things we are up against. I am torn between two countries, Australia, where my children are, and my Master in the US. I dont even think the word difficult even cuts it to be frank.

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/9/2007 1:26:25 PM   
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Kyra,  Ontario Canada to Colorado here.:)
Know what you mean about travel being expensive. But it is worth every penny to me to be with Master as I am sure it is for you also.
Hope your residency comes through for you soon.
OnlyHis

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/9/2007 5:34:13 PM   
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quote:

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Kyra,  Ontario Canada to Colorado here.:)
Know what you mean about travel being expensive. But it is worth every penny to me to be with Master as I am sure it is for you also.
Hope your residency comes through for you soon.
OnlyHis


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Nothing like being on almost opposite sides of the continent huh?  I have to fly either all day or all night just to get there. 

Thank you for the well wishes; we are expecting it soon, but trying not to get our hopes up too much.

Do you plan to move any closer to each other?

Knight's Kyra

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/11/2007 9:24:41 PM   
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i must thank all of You who have shared and are in LDR.  i seriously was sitting here feeling sorry for myself because i only get to see my Sir once a week because we live 3 hours apart... *sigh* Thanks for making me grateful and putting things back into perspective for me.
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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/11/2007 11:48:34 PM   
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My best friend went to Australia to meet a girl he was convinced was "the One" -- they'd known each other for months, talked every day, did webcams, etc. Within 48 hours, he knew she was crazy, all she did was complain about Americans, he wound up just bailing and spending a few weeks touring the country on his own and having a great vacation.

Just reiterating what Stephan said -- be prepared for anything, including the possibility that after a few hours you'll want to call a cab and take off on your own. Bring half as many clothes and twice as much money as you think you need. Do it for yourself, and then you'll have fun no matter what.

Also, Australia has dirt-cheap flights OUT of the country -- one international travel trick is to buy a round-trip to Australia and make the return 364 days away. Then buy round trip tickets out of Australia to all over Asia and travel your heart out. Get a round trip in Australia to the US that returns you to Australia a month before your 364 day return, and you can have more inexpensive travel adventures again in a year! Also, when checking prices look at flying out of Canada rather than the US -- again, it can be dramatically cheaper even if you wind up on the exact same flights.

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/12/2007 3:09:01 PM   
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Kyra,  I don't mind the flying around. Just some of those lousy airports. Chicago O'Hare is not my favorite place to spend 1-4 hours waiting for connections lol
Only His

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RE: Serious Long Distance? - 10/12/2007 3:26:57 PM   
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to address a few things:

wages/living conditions: actually exceed most of american's. it's the cost of the dollar that's not equal. it generally hovers around the .75 to .80 aus to $1 american.

health insurance: socialised health. so if you can live here as a citizen, you're taken care of.

immigration: i immigrated, having been married to an aussie who lived in the states for 10 yrs on a green card with his parents. i was required to live here for 2 yrs before i could apply for citizenship, though i was legally a resident and paid taxes and could claim a parenting allowance (they're so cool over here for that). however, i waited 17 yrs, and was actually divorced before i did apply and get my residency.

sydney: has vy similar weather to San diego, CA. the two cities are similar.

when you go north, in australia, you go to the warmer climates. when you go south, the cooler climates.

it's bloody expensive coming or going here. buy your tickets there. and i've heard of people who have been refused entry to australia if they're of student age, and don't have at least 5 grand in pocket to support themselves for their short duration holiday stage. i don't know how true it was, but certainly something to check out. would be bad to spend the money, and 17 hrs in a plane only to be turned away.

workers visas: i believe, if you have the skills that australia needs, and they're short at the moment, you're welcome. if you have average skills, you'll have al ot more difficulty getting in. drs and nurses desperately needed at the moment, if you're one of those, you'll prob have MUCH easier time.

i know that some agencies such as call centres will hire backpackers, i don't know the legalities though

good luck. australia is a wonderful place, full of friendly people, tim tams and no rabies. if you get here and it doesan't work out, then do some travelling. the country is as big as the US and has an incredible diversity of cultures, people, landscape (desert to jungle) to explore.

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