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OrionTheWolf -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 7:25:04 PM)
You are correct in that the soldier in that link got 110 years. You are incorrect as to the incident that Murtha commented on: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=2013939&page=1 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197316,00.html http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/04/military/12_03_4110_3_07.txt Orion quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 Actually thompson, you could look it up pretty fast and find that your memory is very far from reality. They were declared guilty, by the Anti war movement, the press and people like Murtha. Not in court. The court proceedings are happening now. luckydog: Is this the soldier who you think was not convicted and sentenced to 110 years in prison? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20116405/ Thank you for suggesting that I look it up...something you also could have done. thompson

farglebargle -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 7:25:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 So he declares guilt before the investigation has been finished. Actually, it's more like assuming guilt once the cover-up started, the cover-up being prima-facie evidence of wrongdoing. The sad, sad part of this Haditha story, is the deliberate efforts taken to impede the open investigation of the events in question. Of course, if they didn't do anything wrong, why bother covering it up?

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 7:34:11 PM)
I missed something. I have been digging into this story alot, and do not find anything you mention below. Is there a credible source you have? Orion quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 So he declares guilt before the investigation has been finished. Actually, it's more like assuming guilt once the cover-up started, the cover-up being prima-facie evidence of wrongdoing. The sad, sad part of this Haditha story, is the deliberate efforts taken to impede the open investigation of the events in question. Of course, if they didn't do anything wrong, why bother covering it up?

luckydog1 -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 7:43:37 PM)
Ok, thompson, you are talking about a different subject.....What does it have to do with this one?

thompsonx -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 7:58:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 Ok, thompson, you are talking about a different subject.....What does it have to do with this one? luckydog: If you read both the first and second post you will note that they are consistent. In the first post I gave a time frame which is validated by the cite in the second post. The post clearly states soldiers not marines. You are so hot to find something to bitch at me about you fail to read what you think you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to think more about discussion and less about pushing your agenda. This is a discussion board not a place where someone gets to castigate their imagined enemies. thompson

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 9:02:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf Because so many have been using the word fair and hypocricy, I tried to do a search on the off topic section about Sen Murtha being wrong about saying some Marines killed civilians in cold blood. I couldn't find it. Anyone know what the name of the thread is? Owner 59? I see alot about a talk show host calling some of our soldiers "phonies" but I thought it would be bigger news that a Senator had lied about some Marines killing Iraqi civilians in cold blood. Orion

luckydog1 -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/7/2007 10:51:53 PM)
They are consistent, and not on topic. start a thread about it if you want. Or explain why it has anything to do with this thread. Murtha telling lies about our soldiers before they have trials, and the deafening silence of the left about it.

farglebargle -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/8/2007 7:04:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf I missed something. I have been digging into this story alot, and do not find anything you mention below. Is there a credible source you have? Orion quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 So he declares guilt before the investigation has been finished. Actually, it's more like assuming guilt once the cover-up started, the cover-up being prima-facie evidence of wrongdoing. The sad, sad part of this Haditha story, is the deliberate efforts taken to impede the open investigation of the events in question. Of course, if they didn't do anything wrong, why bother covering it up? Well, let's examine first if the scene was properly secured and investigated for the alleged crime, and take it from there. Oh, the crime scene WAS NOT properly secured? How about the witnesses? Do we have a list of everyone in the town on the night of the alleged crime? They were interviewed immediately after? Where are their statements? Oh, a proper investigation wasn't conducted? Seems to me that you're going to have a problem convicting the alleged criminals because of a bunch of technicalities. I hate these "Soft on Crime" types...

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/8/2007 7:15:08 AM)
I am still missing something. Call me dense. Do you mean that since certain things were not done, that just because those things were not done, there is a cover up and it automatically makes those Marines guilty? Please clarify for me. Orion quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf I missed something. I have been digging into this story alot, and do not find anything you mention below. Is there a credible source you have? Orion quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 So he declares guilt before the investigation has been finished. Actually, it's more like assuming guilt once the cover-up started, the cover-up being prima-facie evidence of wrongdoing. The sad, sad part of this Haditha story, is the deliberate efforts taken to impede the open investigation of the events in question. Of course, if they didn't do anything wrong, why bother covering it up? Well, let's examine first if the scene was properly secured and investigated for the alleged crime, and take it from there. Oh, the crime scene WAS NOT properly secured? How about the witnesses? Do we have a list of everyone in the town on the night of the alleged crime? They were interviewed immediately after? Where are their statements? Oh, a proper investigation wasn't conducted? Seems to me that you're going to have a problem convicting the alleged criminals because of a bunch of technicalities. I hate these "Soft on Crime" types...

farglebargle -> RE: Any topics on Murtha lying about cold blooded killings (10/9/2007 5:14:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf I am still missing something. Call me dense. Do you mean that since certain things were not done, that just because those things were not done, there is a cover up and it automatically makes those Marines guilty? Please clarify for me. Orion Pretty much. When you intentionally fuck up the investigation, it's a no-brainer that the prosecution will be limited in their ability to properly handle the case. Is it Incompetence or Misconduct, and should we care WHAT the cause waseither way?

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