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came4U -> JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/6/2007 11:46:13 PM)

 

Do people with names such names as:

Susan/suz/susie/suse, Robert/bob/Rob, Michael/Mike, William/bill/billy, Jennifer/Jenny/jen..(ok, you get my drift now..lol)

react differently because of 1. who called them the certain given name (teachers called them by their given name vs parents, vs friends. or

2. childhood nik-names or shortforms still today? 

Do you react differently if you are refered to by a nikname such as 'Billy' or 'Susie' by a stranger when you are for expample 40 years old if that person was merely trying to be informal (lets say non work related). Does it bring back memories of 3rd grade?

Is it insulting? Does it bring back good/bad memories? Is it belittling?    Can only family members call you by that childhood-ish name name?  Only close childhood friends? Did we become the age of our parents that we just cannot tolerate it?  Is it like being at a grocery store in the 70's and our parent runs into an old highschool teacher and they call him 'lil Bobby' and you think OMG, creepy LOL.

Just wondering.



MissMagnolia -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/6/2007 11:55:21 PM)

My name is Angela, but only my Mum calls me that. One sister calls me Angie, the rest of the family and friends calls me Ange. Strangers start off calling me Angela, but within minutes shorten it to Ange. That could be an Aussie thing though, as we do tend to shorten names (or stick an O on the end, Jack is Jacko, Brendan is Brendo, etc.). God Aussies are weird.[:D]



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 12:10:32 AM)

I didn't know that Aussies do thaaaaaat!

Yeah, Y'all ARE weird LOL.

yep

weird-o's
lmao

(PS! how come you then aren't Angelo??)



SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 12:16:51 AM)

It's even worse when people lengthen it or tell me that my name can't possibly be just Jo. Which it is. Nothing more to it. I detest when people call me Joey or Josephine. Ugh.

Worse yet there's no middle name at all just an initial.

Sometimes I still wonder what the f*ck my parents were thinking.



MissMagnolia -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 12:32:38 AM)

Because Angelo is an actual name. We like to call people a name that isn't a real name. It amazes me that my name hasn't got to Ango, but give it time.[:D]



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 12:36:57 AM)

Did anyone ever figure out Jo's full (if any) name on the Facts of Life?

or did she pick that name for school to make us believe she was kinda tomboy and 'butch'?

SD is your real full name Jo?? Yes, for a gal that is different, and I thought a situation like 'A Boy named Sue' was only in songs. How awkward for you.  Yes, I would guess that many would assume it was a shortform, and I also understand your distress for it.  It is similar to a gender confusion (when very young)yet you were still too young to even understand the gender biases as of yet??  Later you must have realized OMG my name has gender (wrong gender) attachement?



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 12:39:32 AM)

quote:

It amazes me that my name hasn't got to Ango, but give it time.


oh hun, it could be worse...

it could be 'just fuking-Go!' lol

*btw, wouldn't be me saying it!!



stef -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 12:45:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: came4U

Did anyone ever figure out Jo's full (if any) name on the Facts of Life?

It was Joanna.

~stef



SusanofO -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 1:38:42 AM)

My real name (formal) is Suzanne. Here (and some other places, too) I am called Susan. My immediate family has (and I suspect always will) call me Suzie (with an "ie" at the end, not ending in the letter "y")  - I've always kind of liked "Suzie" - but in some ways it makes me feel:

1) Like a child about 10 years old

2) Like I need to wonder when they will quip, while humming the melody from the 1950's tune: "Wake Up! Little Suuuzie - Wake Up! ..." - which has happened (for anyone old enough to remember that early Rock-N-Roll song, from the 1950's titled: "Wake Up Little Suzie"   - it's a cute song, but that kind of remark, when some hear my name, gets old, sometimes (depends on my mood).

*When people ask me - "What do you want me to call you?" - OR - "What name do you go by?", I still - to this day - don't know whether to tell them: Suzanne, Susan or Suzie, or Sue - so I answer depending on my "mood of them moment" (plus what I think the situation calls for. For instance, in a a formal corporate work situation, it was always Suzanne, or Susan, not "Suzie", or "Sue").   
 
3) Suzanne I think has some sophistication as a name, but it's always striked me as somewhat formal - but maybe that is because my family called me something (I considered) much less formal, and I heard the less formal name all the time, growing up. Because other people who hear that is my name don't really place any particular value judgment on the length, or way it's spelled, IMO (that is my impression, anyway). 

4) Susan - well - I like it well enough - but there are a gazillion people named Susan.

5) Some very old friends still call me just plain: Sue. That was the name  ("Sue") that I used in high school, and sometimes in college, and my sister sometimes calls me that (one of them, The other one uses "Suzie" only). I never really liked being called "Sue" for some reason. IMO, it is too short, too informal, and it's just such a common name. No offense to the other people out there named that, who like it. *And as for that that song: "A boy named Sue" - well, I've always hated that song (really). I think maybe I heard it too much on the radio, or something. 

Suzie is "cute" and I like it - but, for a woman in her late forties, it really depends on how appropriate I consider it in given circumstances. I like it when a lover calls me Susan, or even Suzie, for instance (or even Suzanne - it depends, really. I can't seem to make up my mind. or, maybe it's that I am just not that picky, I don't know.) 

It's fine with me if friends call me Suzanne, or Susan. Or even (God forbid) "Sue". I have groups of people I know (some are close friends) who have called me Suzanne for years, and aren't even aware that entirely separate groups of other people (also friends) may call me Susan or Sue. Only really close intimates ever seem to call me Suzie, though. So Suzie does have a really intimate feel to it.

I am considering calling my new candy business "Suzie's Sinfully Sweet" - and I think there it might really take-off and be valuable.

Hope that answers the OP's question. Have a great Sunday! [:)]



GoddessMine -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 1:42:46 AM)

My name is simple. But some do like to shorten it to a gem, and it makes Me shudder.

Love,
GM



laurell3 -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 1:48:46 AM)

Because I have to sign things with my full name at work, people tend to call me by my full first name, which I detest.  Oddly I've been in quite a few situations where someone has a name like "Matthew" and wants people actually to call them that instead of Matt and wonder why they don't do that with my name as well.  Maybe it's a conspiracy and they all know I hate it!!! 
l



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 1:56:11 AM)

Actually Suz :P ahah, you are the reason why I asked this question after all the silly names in your business thread.

Since I have the same name as you in RL....

Susie (childish uhhg) I know if someone calls me that, they are family calling (uncles, aunts, sisters) from the message given to me.  Yep, I too feel 10 again.

Suzanne is my official name , any calls about university, or work. (also the only name my ex husband knows) lol. I only use his last name for anything legal (American), no one in Canada even knows that name.

Suzanne, anyone from my Quebec schools, work education, childhood, I can tell from the name they ask for who/what/where and when I met them.

Susan is my English name, I know someone is from Ontario if they use that name.

Sue, highshool people, a phase in 80's at a yuppie school when Pat Benetar was cool.

Suella, southern states when I had a lot of spanglish friends, they gave me a sort of illegal-alien/party name.

Suz, when I give a semi-lazy fake name, yet they can still get a hold of me.  I know they were creepy and I couldn't even garble out any other version. It is so casual that it is almost insulting if I ever sign a note this way.

It also helps to have alternate last names lol. Gotta love dual citizenship. 






julietsierra -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:01:25 AM)

When I was first engaged, we went to my future in-law's to tell them. What I heard was not "Congratulations! How wonderful! Eat Shit! Bite ME!" or anything one way or the other expressing how they felt about me or the prospect of having me as a daughter-in-law. (I eventually came to find out that my mother-in-law hated me, but that's another story). Anyway, what I did hear was from my father-in-law. He said "Great! Now I can have a grandson named after me!" (There's nothing quite like feeling like someone's brood mare on the day you get engaged!)

And THEN, the man had the AUDACITY to die a year later nearly on the very day of our anniversary. (He was actually a GREAT guy and I was sad we'd only had a short time to know each other) The name and fate of my first born was sealed in stone from that moment on. (Can you imagine what that's like? Not having one choice or even be considered in the naming of your first child?)

Anyway, my father-in-law's name was James. Everyone called him Jimmy. I HATE names that are shortened to y-names. So, after a long time arguing about this, I finally conceded to the reality that always was anyway, but with the concession that he would NEVER be called Jimmy by anyone in the family. We made sure we communicated that to ALL involved parties (especially the most likely culpret in the nickname game - my mother-in-law. She was none too pleased "It was good enough for your father!!!" I finally ended the argument by saying that our other choice was Bruce and if calling him Jim vs Jimmy was a problem, we could always name him Bruce.)

As our son grew up, he was never called James. Even when he was in trouble, we never did the three-name-threat. We would call him Mr _____ and use his last name. The name he grew up knowing was Jim.

Just as he was entering high school, we went through a ton of trauma here. His best friend turned on him (it happens in middle school a lot), I divorced his father and we moved 1300 miles away from the only home he'd ever known - all in one fell swoop. As he entered high school, in an effort to protect whatever fragile sense of himself he had left after all that, he started a new, and in retrospect, a practice I rather like.

Not one of his friends these days know him as Jim. To them, he is James. While he is close to them, he still holds them all at somewhat of an arm's length. To his family, he is and always will be Jim. To his grandmother, now in her late 80s and suffering from a number of ailments, one of them being sundowners, who he visits with all the time - especially when she's scared - he's Jimmy. Just for her because it gives her comfort.

To her credit all these long years later, when we're all together in public, she addresses him only as Jim, leaving Jimmy for their more private times.

When his friends have heard us call him Jim and tried to do the same, he's corrected them - every time. He says that when he decides to marry, we'll know because the girl will probably be calling him Jim - the name he reserves for those he loves most in his life - his family.

I rather like how he's handled having a name that everyone likes to shorten.

juliet




SusanofO -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:06:58 AM)

came4u: Alternate citizenship would pose interesting possibilities, I imagine. Suella, though? I am not sure - if it was given in honor or because they were being nice and loving, then okay....Yes, the name Suzanne/Susan/Suzie/Sue does pose some interesting variations (only about a gazillion). I think we have a built-in identity crisis, due to our name alone, hehe...[:)][:D]

julietsierra: Sometimes a shortened name, IMO, just seems less appropriate (to me) as a person ages. I'll call people whatever they want me to call them - but unless I really am familiar with someone, it is sometimes hard for me to call say, a 50 year old man: Bobby, etc. 

- Susan  



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:10:48 AM)

Juliet,

it is funny how he marked his independence by his choice of his own version on his name despite you, inlaws etc..very secure in meaning to do so.

Oh how I wish I had the power of this book then:

The Daughter-In-Law's Survival Guide, Everything You Need to Know about Relating to Your Mother-In-Law by Eden Unger Bowditch.

The world would be a different place.



julietsierra -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:21:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: came4U

Juliet,

it is funny how he marked his independence by his choice of his own version on his name despite you, inlaws etc..very secure in meaning to do so.

Oh how I wish I had the power of this book then:

The Daughter-In-Law's Survival Guide, Everything You Need to Know about Relating to Your Mother-In-Law by Eden Unger Bowditch.

The world would be a different place.


I thought it was independence as well for a long time. Even said so once to him. He just laughed, hugged me and said "it's not independence from YOU GUYS!! SHEESH!  I just don't trust people who say they're my friends. I may care for them and value their friendship, but they are NEVER my family and I use James to remind myself of that."

He and that best friend had been best friends - almost to the point of "brothers" since they were three. When this kid did what he did, it devastated my son in a way his parents' divorce never touched. For much of the time that his family life was in hell, his best friend was the person he felt most comfortable with. Then, when he needed that friend the most, the friend turned on him. He tells me he'll never allow himself to trust someone who calls themself his "friend" again. He uses his more formal name to remind himself of that limitation.

juliet



SusanofO -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:24:36 AM)

I will say this: My mother told me that she wanted to name me Gretchen, but my father objected. He said it reminded him of a witch, or something (no offense to the Gretchens out there, truly. I don't have an opinion on it, but my father apparently did, and he won out).

Her other choice was Amy, but he vetoed that as well (not sure why).

Overall, given the other two options, I can say I am happy with my name. No offense to any Amys out there, either. I like it, but like my name better, not sure why. I've only known 2 people named Amy in my life intimately, and I liked them both. I don't know any Gretchens on an initmate (friendly) basis.

**P.S. My mother apparently named me after the heroine in the movie of the late 1950's, titled: "Raintree County" (with Elizabeth Taylor and Montgomery Clift. It is a great movie, IMO).

However, she was watching it in the hospital when she went into labor with me - and she hadn't seen the end of the movie, when I was born, only the beginning of it.

She named me before she found out how the movie ended. By the end of the movie, Elizabeth Taylor (playing Susannah, the ill-fated heoine) has gone completely insane. [:o][:D] Oh well. 

- Susan



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:29:21 AM)

Juliet, I can understand the trauma of being called one name that reminds us of a specific even or circumstance and it is a biggg turn off. Most males with the name James start off as James, (birthname) to Jimmy (childhood name) to Jim (I'm a big guy now) and James (I am a Sr. now, respect me!), it is like a James, Robert, Michael cycle. It is perhaps the time in his life-cycle that he felt most empowered in himself?  Empowered, enlightened in his opinions of himself and others and their behavior?? Maybe others that skipped from Jim to James have overestimated their seniority and maturity and have a false sense of security and perhaps denial of the worst kind. 



came4U -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:32:09 AM)

Susan:

It is kinda an advantage, since I have both SSN and SIN # in two different names. lol

My idea man would be a dominant money launderer (sans drug involvement) but hell, my luck, his MOTHER would be a bitch and I would commit myself to prison just for sanity.

[;)]

quote:

  By the end of the movie, Elizabeth Taylor (playing Susannah, the ill-fated heoine) has gone completely insane. Oh well. 


yes, and did that apple fall far from the hollywood screen tree? ha ha ha lol ha [:D]



Daddysjezzy -> RE: JosephJoeyJoeJo (10/7/2007 2:32:28 AM)

The name on my birth certificate is Jacqueline which I despise as prissy but my family always called me either Jackie, Jack, little Jackie or Tiaki which is Jackie in our native language.  I also had a variety of other non name related nick names like Missy growing up so I pretty much will respond to anything people call me.  LOL



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