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YourhandMyAss -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 12:40:36 PM)
It's not crowded when I go and it don't take forever when I go, but then again I usualy go dureing other people's working hours. on a saturday or a sunday or late in the day m-f yeah it can be crowded. quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY You know... I loathe shopping at Walmart. Parking is a nightmare, waiting to checkout takes forever, and unless you shop at 3am it's always crowded.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 2:52:27 PM)
Actually these particular shorts were not at Wal-Mart, they were a huge lot purchase of over production by Izod. They were not sold anywhere, and shipped straight to Sam's Clubs, BJ's, Costco, and other buying clubs. I never said that Sam's is not a part of the Wal-Mart group. WalGreens is a part of it as well. There are some things that I buy at Wal-Mart, but if it is more than$30 or so, I am going to research it first and see if it is a "second", or the same thing being sold elsewhere. It comes down to making informed buying decisions, and doing the research. Orion quote: ORIGINAL: joanus quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf Actually they have very similar crap, but being a club, they will buy close out items from anywhere, and then offer it to members at a huge discount. The most recent thing I can think of is, Izod shorts (the sturdy kind) for about $12. I have also purchased name brand hoodies there as well. Same means identical. I can easily identify cheap crap, but Ron has gone over that. To mention a few other things I have gotten from the buying clubs, CK Jeans and Dress shirts, Tommy Dress Shirts, and some wolverine hiking/work boots. All carried by Walmart. BTW those Izod shorts were at walmart not long ago for 10$ a pair. For those of you who haven't figured it out (and there are a frightening number of you) the Sam in Sam's Club stands for Sam Walton hence the Wal in Wal-mart. So please stop sending me Walmart related hatemail. PS Sam Waltons first store was a Ben Franklins

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 2:55:36 PM)
I have never had anyone turn down cash before. That is odd because there is a charge for credit cards to the merchant, which means that cash is more valuable, and you do not have to wait to get your money. Orion

Alumbrado -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 3:10:46 PM)
I've never heard of WalGreens, but the Walgreen family started their chain of drugstores about 50 years before Sam Walton opened his first business venture.

seeksfemslave -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 3:49:19 PM)
WalMart owns ASDA supermarket chain in the UK. All the Brit wunderkind posters will know that Asda is pretty damn good. So stop moaning Yanks and be grateful that Sam wotisname had a vision. Make a profit. Isn't that the American dream ?

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 7:17:10 PM)
I am indeed mistaken on that one. They do generic branding similar and actually go head to head with Walmart pharmacies. The article I just read states they often will have a sale or price decrease/increase to coincide with WalMarts. Orion quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado I've never heard of WalGreens, but the Walgreen family started their chain of drugstores about 50 years before Sam Walton opened his first business venture.

petdave -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/11/2007 7:48:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado As far as the regular name brand stuff goes, how is a Poulan chainsaw a cheap piece of crap for $129 at WallyWorld, but a wise shopping decision for $149 at Lowes? Same for Michelin tires, Sony cameras, Black & Decker toasters, Toshiba laptops, and so forth... Would anyone think they were getting a bargain by paying more for the same item elsewhere? Branding is a funny thing, though, especially on electronics... Certain manufacturers will build items specifically for an individual chain, and give that item its own unique part number (makes it real easy to promise "money back if you find it for less anywhere else" because it's not available anyplace else!)... Since a lot of big brands have outsourced production and merely have things built to spec by various Chinese factories, there may actually be a difference in parts quality between the model 16-49H chainsaw from Ho Depot and the model 16-49W model from Wal-Mart, even though they have the same brand and have the same major specifications... And then you've got stuff like car batteries and LCD monitors and computer components, where you've got dozens of different brands all being produced by the same three or four factories... It can get complicated. Personally, i've been buying more and more used stuff off of Craigslist lately... wood furniture, professional-quality tools, etc.... it's hard to find anything that's really made to last anymore.

UtopianRanger -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 1:50:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: petdave quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger I see a complete societal shift on the horizon……an anti-corporatist, populist movement of sorts….a push back against the phony free market freaks. I’d be willing to bet that within the next six to eight years, if wal-mart doesn’t make some major concessions with regard to its employees, their whole workforce will become unionized. I don't see how it can be stopped. Ahh, you take that Utopian thing seriously, don't you? [:D] There's an old saying... when you're at the top, there's no where to go but down. i would dearly love to see Wal-Mart lose all of its influence in media marketing, if nothing else... Homogenization and cost-cutting is fine and dandy for household goods and groceries, but to have a major retailer with an avowedly mediocre/inoffensive slant impacting the release of records and novels is just depressing. No worries, Dave.... Maybe the Al-Qaeda network will target their corporate headquarters with a dirty bomb.[;)] - R

Real0ne -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 4:02:03 AM)
Now if we could just figure out a way to boycott the military industrial complex!

pahunkboy -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 4:17:44 AM)
i heard that. think of it as a casino. no clocks. the house always wins. bells wistles. flashy lights. yeah, modern life is a casino. wait- maybe is more of a hazzardous waste dump.

joanus -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 5:00:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Now if we could just figure out a way to boycott the military industrial complex! Why in hell would any one want to do that? If the military industrial complex, as you call it we non paranoid people call it our economy, Shuts down its goodbye Americas first world country status. (its ammazing how close we are to being the Middle East of the west) Once our economy goes to hell this country is going to go to shit faster than a young Bush at a kegger. I of course relize its hard to imagine this whore's vigina of a country could get any worse, but at least we dont have militaint groups running all over the place causeing trouble.(thats cause their all in Iraq right now, and yes that is a pot shot that that group of terrorists America calls its Military). Right now War is not only the most profitable venue, but also one of the greatest modivators for invention. Most of the worlds great inventions where products of war.

julietsierra -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 5:09:14 AM)
And to think... I just want to find a sweater with something a bit lower cut than a crew-neck. (I'm sooo superficial) juliet

SugarMyChurro -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 10:32:21 AM)
Walmart's prices are actually on par with other stores. The idea that Walmart prices are substantially lower than competitor prices has been debunked dozens of times. Sure, some loss leader items are truly inexpensive - but get beyond that and they make up for those prices on other items which are higher in cost than elsewhere. Don't get me talking about higher end stuff like electronics or tools, Walmart cannot compete on quality - and it matters to anyone that is actually going to use those things as they should be used. My slave and I shop for groceries at approximately 7 different stores: produce is best bought all over the place because quality varies in surprising ways, meats I tend to buy at 3 different spots, staples get bought all over the place, and Trader Joe's gets my money on some specialty items, black tea, and sourdough bread. I even shop at Costco but you have to price check there too, their prices are not always the cheapest and much of their prepared food is very high in fat, sugars, and salt. I like Costco for salad items (if they are fresh!) and seafood. How much money does Walmart get? Zilch. Nada. None. What am I going to buy there? Cereal that is mainly sugar? No thanks. A jug if milk that has been mishandled? Not likely... And that's something to think about - do you really want your food handled by people that have no significant training in how to properly handle food? I don't - I want my food prepared and handled by pros. If you have never been to a proper butcher shop or fish monger then you have no idea of what I am talking about. I don't like shopping at stores where the workers cannot properly indentify banana squash when they are holding it in their hands.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 12:49:17 PM)
If people want to be frugle, try BJ's wholesale club. Just bought two Men's Docker Jackets for 39.99 each, the cheapest I could find them anywhere else, including the internet was 49.99, and some dept stores are running them on sale at 89.99. The Dockers MSRP is 120.00, but that is BS, because they had this jacket a few months back for 69.99 themselves. Orion

servantforuse -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 1:06:46 PM)
For those who hope that Walmart is in decline, I wouldn't hold your breath. Walmart stock was up 3 % yesterday on better than expected earnings and a very good future outlook.

petdave -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 6:27:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SugarMyChurro My slave and I shop for groceries at approximately 7 different stores: produce is best bought all over the place because quality varies in surprising ways, meats I tend to buy at 3 different spots, staples get bought all over the place, and Trader Joe's gets my money on some specialty items, black tea, and sourdough bread. You must have a lot of free time and cheap transportation... good deal if you can get it. Personally, i've got time to hit maybe two stores on a good week. So much time, so little to do! [:-] Strike that, reverse it! You can only spend so much time driving from place to place chasing bargains before your transportation costs outweigh your savings, and that's even assuming zero value for your time.

Level -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 7:04:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY You know... I loathe shopping at Walmart. Parking is a nightmare, waiting to checkout takes forever, and unless you shop at 3am it's always crowded. Then again, I remember a world before Walmart's revolution. I remember having to drive all over town to do shopping. I remember limited (parallel!) parking downtown and having to feed meters. I remember having to haul packages several blocks to where we were parked, only to then have to head to another store to try to find what the first store didn't have that you wanted. I remember fewer choices and higher prices. And I remember the first time I went to a Walmart and the amazement I felt at being able to buy a pair of jeans, a gallon of milk, a sewing pattern, an ice cream scoop, and a hammer all at the same time in the same place. You know something else? Shopping at 3am is kinda nice. [;)] I honestly wouldn't want to go back. Hi Treasure [X(] I love shopping early, too, not quite that early, though [:D] I'm very ambivalent about Wal-Mart. It's like most other things in the world, neither purely good nor evil.

Level -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 7:18:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gwendolyn I absolutely loathe shopping at Walmart. And I applaud their employees for having a pair and standing up to the conglomerate. Unfortunately, there are a few items I just can't get anywhere else. I'm a diabetic, os my sugar free choices are severely limited elsewhere. I have searched high and low across Cincinnati for the beverages I drink, but not a single place sells them. They also sell my test strips; noone else does. I'm just not willing to pay that extra $75 a month on medical supplies elsewhere. Being a diabetic without insurance is expensive. Gwen Ouch, it sure can be. I get my strips there, too.

SugarMyChurro -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 8:13:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: petdave You can only spend so much time driving from place to place chasing bargains before your transportation costs outweigh your savings, and that's even assuming zero value for your time. I don't chase bargains. I chase after quality while trying to be frugal about it. I mean, it's your body we are talking about - garbage in, garbage out - so don't buy garbage. How to be frugal: 1. In most cases you can't find quality if you are committed to one stop shopping - so don't be. 2. If it's crap, it isn't a deal no matter what the price happens to be. 3. If it's quality, find the best price. If there are no alternatives, then you make do with what you can find. 4. The correct way to calculate a fair price for any food is to consider cost vs benefit for something you intend to put inside your body. 5. Have time for the things that matter. YMMV...

corsetgirl -> RE: The end of the Wal-Mart era? (10/12/2007 10:24:06 PM)
I have a friend who works for Wal-Mart and they have screwed around with her hours. The problem is that when people are not available to have these various hours, their time to work is cut to 1-2 days per week. I think these policies would leave it wide open for a lawsuit to those who have to take care of family members because they are being penalized for their unavailability. Oh yeah and the parking spaces in that area are just too much to witness customer parking rage!

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