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Aneirin -> The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 7:36:37 AM)
According to the Mars Global Surveyor camera, it appears the Martian polar ice caps are melting and there is an increase of Co2 on the planet. This begs the thought that if the polar ice caps on another planet are melting, would it not seem a coincidence that our planet's ice caps are melting. There is no man and industry on Mars, the only common factor is the sun. So is it really the sun that is causing the melting problems on earth and maybe the increase in carbon dioxide? http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/09/20/spolar4years/

joanus -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 7:43:04 AM)
For the good of the Ice cap we must blow up the sun. We'll get Bush and his boys on that right away.

pahunkboy -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 7:49:32 AM)
yeah. lets bomb mars!!! the blob could be there! or the lockness monster.

joanus -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 7:52:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy yeah. lets bomb mars!!! the blob could be there! or the lockness monster. Mars isn't the problem the sun is. ya know that big glowy thing thats just sitting there doing what its supposed to do. Giving us light and life. Its melting those damn Ice caps So its gotta die! fuck coming up with an actual Idea or solution to the problem, lets do the American thing and just blow the fucker up.

Zarine -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 8:10:38 AM)
Martians drive SUV's!!!!!!

LadyEllen -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 8:11:48 AM)
Well, there goes another industry down the drain - the Martian skiing sector will require taxpayer bail out, for sure. E

meatcleaver -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 8:16:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin According to the Mars Global Surveyor camera, it appears the Martian polar ice caps are melting and there is an increase of Co2 on the planet. This begs the thought that if the polar ice caps on another planet are melting, would it not seem a coincidence that our planet's ice caps are melting. There is no man and industry on Mars, the only common factor is the sun. So is it really the sun that is causing the melting problems on earth and maybe the increase in carbon dioxide? http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/09/20/spolar4years/ This isn't even old news, it's pre-historic almost. It has been known for quite a few decades now that the sun will be at the height of one of its cycles around now and that there would be some climate warming. However, just to disappoint you, this has been all factored in to the climate models and the crucial figure that is always needed to make the equations work, is the man made carbon emissions. The surveyor is only reporting what one would expect.

cyberdude611 -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 8:40:23 AM)
Yeah but this doesnt have anything at all to do with the ice caps melting on earth according to the global warming alarmists.... Global warming can't possibly be anything natural so we need to just discard this evidence and concentrate on fossil fuels being the sole cause.

kdsub -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 8:47:47 AM)
Be sure to save all of these clever global warming jokes. Your great grandkids will enjoy reading them in their storm cellars. Their many friends will too, since a good part of the world has become uninhabitable, things are a little crowded in the bunker. It gives them something to think about besides food.

pahunkboy -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 9:11:32 AM)
the kids will be smarter then us

kdsub -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 9:26:31 AM)
Lol…I don’t know about that pahunkboy… I am afraid I am much smarter then my children…and sad but so my parents were a lot smarter than me… I think we are experiencing a general dumbing down…must be pollution eating away at our brains.Or TV…lol

DomKen -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 9:38:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 Yeah but this doesnt have anything at all to do with the ice caps melting on earth according to the global warming alarmists.... Global warming can't possibly be anything natural so we need to just discard this evidence and concentrate on fossil fuels being the sole cause. Do you have a single source for any reputable scientist saying human action was the sole source of global warming? I do so love how anti enviromentalists always insist that any tiny shred of evidence that some natural event has some effect on temperature completely discounts the fact that human activity has put enough CO2 into the atmostphere to change the concentration by almost 100ppm in 250 years.

kdsub -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 9:49:28 AM)
As the rein of our civilization progresses on earth we become more and more capable of changing for good or bad the environment around us. It may be wise to stop the silly argument of why global warming is happing. Wouldn’t it be better to work together and find solutions to the problems it is causing? At least lets stop pointing fingers and try to determine if it will really affect us and what we can do if anything about it. Butch

eldervelvet -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 9:54:53 AM)
It's Bush's fault! Algore, Algore, He's our man! If He can't save us, No one can! Flee! Flee! The Sky is Falling!

ChicagoSwitchMal -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 10:23:26 AM)
I think it's curious that they can not accurately predict the weather from week but, using the same models, say with authority that the oceans will rise, the ice caps will melt, and were all doomed. just and observation

philosophy -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 10:36:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChicagoSwitchMal I think it's curious that they can not accurately predict the weather from week but, using the same models, say with authority that the oceans will rise, the ice caps will melt, and were all doomed. just and observation ........ try and predict, in detail, the movements of a NASCAR car over a period of a few seconds.....i mean, in nano-centimetre detail. Very very tricky.....but when we pull back our perspective the behaviour of such a car becomes a lot easier to predict, ie round and round. Weather prediction, as opposed to global climate, is very very short term......perspective is a wonderful thing.

popeye1250 -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 11:00:23 AM)
Thousands of scientists will tell you that global warming is caused by increased solar activity and Mars heating up at the same level as Earth proves this but the "Global Warming Warriers" are too anal-retentive to let go of all of their theories. They should be required to wear beanies with propellors on top. "But, but, it just HAS to be man-made, it HAS to be!"

meatcleaver -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 11:09:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 Yeah but this doesnt have anything at all to do with the ice caps melting on earth according to the global warming alarmists.... Global warming can't possibly be anything natural so we need to just discard this evidence and concentrate on fossil fuels being the sole cause. You can't dig up one credible scientist to say global warming is not happening and that it is not due to human activity. But keep your head in the sand, ignorance is bliss.

meatcleaver -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 11:11:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Be sure to save all of these clever global warming jokes. Your great grandkids will enjoy reading them in their storm cellars. Their many friends will too, since a good part of the world has become uninhabitable, things are a little crowded in the bunker. It gives them something to think about besides food. I accept we're still waiting for some of the human species to catch up, then there are those that never will.

pahunkboy -> RE: The ice is melting on Mars (10/12/2007 11:29:20 AM)
wait. there was NEVER any ICE ON MARS!!!!!! duh

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