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What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 6:52:59 AM   
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I have a question. I am an Alpha Sub (I know some of you do not like that term and I am sorry) meaning a Sub to only one, my Sir while a Domme to all others. He also has another beautiful young sub, and says we are in a Poly Relationship (I have my own Sub as well). Recently, friends in our lifestyle have become confused as to our relationship and protocol. I am often the one left to my own devices by my Sir while they are together, so friends want to play ( I am a very playful person). Sir recently tried to explain our positions through a post on our groups web-site where he introduced his other Sub as his "Slave" (ok...I know what that is...) and me as his "Pet" ????? Now, he doesn't treat me like a dog and pull me around on a leash or do "puppy" training. So, I know he doesn't mean that. I tried to look up "Pet" under BDSM terms and there is nothing....so I am more than a bit confused. If it is just a term of endearment, than what the hell am I? And no, we are not treated equally. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 7:01:06 AM   
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Why don't you ask him?

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 7:11:23 AM   
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The only person who can answer that is your Master - can you not ask Him?

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 7:29:48 AM   
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Well..I can tell you how/why we use it.

I am a subordinate to him, I am owned & enslaved to him emotionally, I have been marked by both blade & brand. I am not what many who frequent the BDSM boards consider submissive OR slave. I am a toy, a companion, a sounding board, a kick in his ass

He likens it to keeping a alpha female wolf, she bows to the alpha male, but no other.

But even the alpha male has to use care in his treatment, else she nips his ass too.





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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 7:32:42 AM   
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A) Why is he so concerned over how all the others in your world understand it? When I meet new people and try to explain my poly, they usually don't get it either. I just tell them "It's ok, what matters is that we're all happy. It's easier to understand onc you see us all together," and leave it at that.

B) Why aren't you asking HIM what the heck he meant by it and why didn't he explain it in his explanatory email to everyone?

Anyway, "Pet" is most often used to refer to someone who is in service to another, but treated mostly like a treasured family pet rather than an object to be ordered around or a servant lover. But, YMMV.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 8:20:19 AM   
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quote:

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A) Why is he so concerned over how all the others in your world understand it? When I meet new people and try to explain my poly, they usually don't get it either. I just tell them "It's ok, what matters is that we're all happy. It's easier to understand onc you see us all together," and leave it at that.

B) Why aren't you asking HIM what the heck he meant by it and why didn't he explain it in his explanatory email to everyone?

Well fuck - I guess they care because - they care. And I guess she is asking here vice him because she feels more comfortable/wants to ask here.

Sheesh - if someone here asks a sincere question, wtf does everyone else jump thier motivation/perspective shit?

Hey, uhh, EM2, read what you just wrote. Why are YOU so concerned about what other's think about your poly?

Anyways magi, heres how my friends use the term (it's not one I use): It means to them a type of D/s relationship that is not peer to peer, but not Owner to property - it is an intermediary power relationship with ownership, but that ownership acknowledges some independence of the "s" in the relationship.

The idea is that Master/slave is an owner to property relationship, where the the slave is essentially chattel - maybe not in an enforcable legal sense, but conceptually.

"Pet" implies an owner to beloved pet relationship. There is an owner, but the pet isn't chattel - the pet, for all her dependence on and devotion to the Master, is still in some way independent as an entity, is submitting in response to the relationship, to the care and protection of the Master.

Try and imagine the first wolves who came into a campfire, and noble and independent as they were, willing to serve these gods with fire (and perhaps serve conditionally, in response to right treatment).

I think Jack London describes the realtionship perfectly in Whitefang:

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Having learned to snuggle, White Fang was guilt of it often. It was the final word. He could not go beyond it. The one thing of which he had always been particularly jealous, was his head. He had always disliked to have it touched. It was the Wild in him, the fear of hurt and of the trap, that had given rise to the panicky impulse to avoid contacts. It was the mandate of his instinct that the head must be free. And now, with the love-master, his snuggling was the deliberate act of putting himself into a position of hopeless helplessness. It was an expression of the perfect confidence, of absolute self-surrender, as though he said: “I will put myself into thy hands. Work thou thy will with me.”


Try and imagine a powerful man or woman, a head of household. They have an estate, and perhaps they have slaves who help administer the household. In addition to the slaves the Master owns, the Master also has a beloved dog, a companion who is devoted to the Master, serves the Master, but has a special connection beyond that which the slaves have. The slaves never lie at the Master's feet in their study, or go off with the master into the Woods when they need time to think. All of the household is under the Master, but the Pet has a special bond the servants and slaves don't have.


Does that help at all magi?

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 8:31:40 AM   
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Hey, uhh, EM2, read what you just wrote. Why are YOU so concerned about what other's think about your poly?

Read what I just wrote- I said that I am not concnered with what others UNDERSTAND abut my poly relationship. I try and explain, and if they don't get it, I tell them not to worry. It's not a big deal.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 9:40:50 AM   
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I did....still no reply back....*sigh

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 10:08:18 AM   
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When my Master called me pet (among many other names, including "mine") i felt treasured, safe, loved and nurtured. i didn't feel like chattel, although i probably was to him, i know he thought of me as his slave, submissive, woman, lover, etc., so pet was only one of many. It was also one of my favorites.

Like most expressions in life there are lots of definitions to a single word, many opposite, but just as valid and important to each side.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 10:20:18 AM   
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Dear Faramir:
You make it sound so special! Yes that does help a great deal....Thank you so much. I have asked Sir for clarification but have yet to receive it as he is so very busy.....*sigh. That is why I posted here on the message board...figuring it for what it was (a message board). It does make some sense to me now, as I am an Alpha Sub (that being what it is) and do need my independence to a certain extent I guess as I am a Domme to others. I asked for this clarification not only for myself, but because others who see us do not readily understand our relationship....they can tell there is a difference between Sirs slave and myself in the way we are treated/payed attention to and it confuses them. I am often not directly with them at a function, but on the side instead unless Sir calls me to him. As I am not marked or treated as a Slave, how do they address me? What is the protocol...is it the same? Ect.... hence the questions.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 1:33:03 PM   
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To everyone it is probably different.
MY definition however is Someone I can take care of, protect, nurture and guide.
Someone who will give all of themselves to me without reservation or requirement.


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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 1:42:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: magiqnapa
If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks!


Not sure if I can help, but here is my take on it.

The greeks have two words for dominance. The first, kyros, is for the dominance a man has over his wife, kids, and even pets. It is a dominance bound by love, affection, responsibility, and even duty. The second, despos, is for the dominance a man has over his property (i.e. his slaves and his cattle).

It seems to me that he is saying that as his pet, he dominantes you with love, respect and responsibility (kyros), while his slave is dominanted as property (despos).

But what the hell do I know...I'm just posting this because I was enchanted by your picture.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 2:46:18 PM   
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i agree with grits. When my Master calls me "pet" i too feel very treasured. The sound of Her voice saying "MY Pet" in my ear whether its in a scene or just my laying next to Her being held tight, my entire body responds as it is being said so lovingly. Being called "pet" goes to the very inner being of my soul. It makes me feel very special and loved.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 5:02:57 PM   
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My take is a simple one, Pet is after all (to agree with many posts here) a term of endearment,of treasure, of caring......Slave is after all ownership and a diffrent dynamic is implied by addressing one as slave. Why not come forward with these classifications to help you with this when you next converse with Sir. I am certain that his take will reflect some of what has been posted here....Good luck ,it is always a struggle to be clear with dynamics involving poly relations.......Best Sputnik

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 6:51:29 PM   
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quote:

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they can tell there is a difference between Sirs slave and myself in the way we are treated/payed attention to and it confuses them. I am often not directly with them at a function, but on the side instead unless Sir calls me to him. As I am not marked or treated as a Slave, how do they address me? What is the protocol...is it the same? Ect.... hence the questions.

I guess I just hang out with too many people who don't CARE what you identify with because it doesn't make any difference to THEM. Now, my friends and passrsby might be INTERESTED in knowing how my whole poly thing works, and admittedly it is confusing for a new person. However, what does it matter in how they address me? When you're with a group who embraces all orientations, who sees no reason to treat someone differently because they own someone or don't own someone or switch or like to whip someone and suck toes...having any sort of structure protocol is fairly meaningless.

In short, I can see why people would want to know for simply understanding and curiosities sake, but anyone who would feel a need to treat me differently because I was at the club with the Owner one week and with the boyfriend another week is not someone I need to worry about.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 8:07:33 PM   
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I don't think it matters what he calls you, as long as you know that you are his and vice versa. My Master calls me "pet", or girlfriend. It doesn't really matter to me what He calls me, I know He loves and respects me.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/29/2005 11:01:17 PM   
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I refer to my one and only sub as "My Pet" which means that I have labled her as being mine and is really more of a nick name than anything. Many people have different definitions for this word.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/30/2005 9:56:31 AM   
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I am mistress pet. Its not quite the same as just being submissive, its more suited for our relationship. She loves me, and has vowed to keep me safe from harm including from my self. She needs my compainionship. We make a pair. In some sences we are equals. I still submit to her, and give her everything she could possible want, but it is out of love for her as a person. not just the desire to please her. As a pet, i do have my own life out side of her. I work, and see friends, go places, and for the most part i don't need permiss for that either. It comes with the lifestyle of being a pet. I have more responiciblity to her, and i am important. She needs me to help keep her mind and soul alive, not just to keep her sex life happy, and the house clean. Although some day i do that aswell.

I have a slave also. He is there to keep me happy, to make my bad days better. So mistress is the only person who i will and do serve, and she is the only one who has any rights to any part of me, weather it be my mind, body, or soul.


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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 7/30/2005 1:05:17 PM   
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The term "pet" does indeed mean many things.

I use it in the Vampire's Pet Series as a term of endearment, a status among the household and to define the relationship between the characters.

Yet even among the vampires, the term has different meanings.

As an alpha female, the term works for me, much like the way Faramir discussed White Fang. I'm am with my husband by choice and choose to make myself vulnerable for him. He treasures me though I'm not submissive outside of the bedroom and not always submissive when we play.

I call my submissive, Nat, my pet, because he is more than just a play partner. I certainly don't own him, yet he gives himself to me and is free to go at any time.

batty24546 uses the term again as more than an endearment, its how her relationship is defined with her mistress. Batty, I really liked your example.

Pet can also be used to describe a puppy/pony/kitty or other animal role that a sub/slave has chosen to take as in http://www.petgirls.com/. This way to use the term is becoming more popular, yet it tends to have a noun after it. Pet girl, pet boy, pet slave... and is more of a definition of status than a term of endearment. Like any other use of the term, it can be for a scene, a fantasy or for 24/7 use.

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RE: What does being a "Pet" mean? - 8/6/2005 9:06:18 PM   
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It is kind of how my relationship whit my Dom is, i am his sibmissive, but i am also his pet, his lover, the one he takes care of and nutures. I feel safe when called a pet.

Rubyb, is that you are talking aboute a book seris, if so, can you tell me the titels and where to buy them, i simply love vampire stories.

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