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RE: Owner/property - 8/1/2005 10:59:36 PM

imtempting

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No doubt in the near future I will say something like you about a word.

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 6:44:14 AM

littleone35

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i just knew somone was going to disagree with me. That is just my personal thought i could be wrong would not be the first time.

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 7:55:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littleone35

i just knew somone was going to disagree with me. That is just my personal thought i could be wrong would not be the first time.

littleone

Anything you have to say, at least 3 people will disagree with. I'm glad that you understand that and accept it beforehand, it can be difficult for people who don't have experience with it.

It's important for people to learn that disagreement is no reason for enmity.

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 9:02:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littleone35

i just knew somone was going to disagree with me. That is just my personal thought i could be wrong would not be the first time.

littleone

Yup, just as what I said is my personal thoughts :) I promise, I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I look at it differently. I'm glad that you understand that disagreeing isn't invalidating.

I like you :)

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 10:44:44 AM

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when subs/slaves use the word "owner" and "property" -- how do they define that?

this slave defines "owner" as the one in control and the one responsible for the "property" which they own.

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Does your Master "own" you like I own my laptop?

Hmm....probably not.
your laptop might break and you could replace it at no cost to you if it is under a specific warranty..OR
someone could steal your laptop, sell it for dope and after the bust, folks will get arrested just for having it in their posession....and you might get it back after they release it out of the evidence locker!..OR
last but not least, it probably takes MORE time for your laptop to boot up.....
but seriously, "property" comes in many forms and this slave is assuming that you are referring to the not-necessarily-legally-recognized form of ownership that is present in the relationship styles discussed here. This slave agreed upon becoming Master's slave, His property, that not only did He have the control and responsibility of ownership of His slave, but so did everything that she "owned" in her previous vanilla life. the exact wording goes like this....."Upon acceptance of this life, all that is this slave's belongs to Master. Therefore the words me, mine and I are no longer appropriate. As a posession of Master, all references will consider this."

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Can you be bought and sold? Know what I mean?

In the context of wiitwd, anything is possible......selling off a particularly useful, valuable piece of property would rely on the discretion of the owner, not the owned.

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Do you consider yourselves to be worth less than the average vanilla human?

this slave considers herself to be unique and valuable to Master, more so than if He had a relationship with an "average vanilla human" instead.

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 1:23:48 PM

littleone35

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i like you also angelic i always enjoy reading you posts, They give me a lot to think on. :0)

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 3:26:58 PM

Hissweetshiv

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Have you always thought of yourselves as "property"
Do you consider yourselves to be worth less than the average vanilla human?

No. I am (as someone else said) not an object. I am His. If i am not Owned by Him, i am not property. At that point i am just me until and unless i accept another person's Ownership of me. Am i worth less than the average vanilla human? (snickers) No. I am a strong intelligent loving woman and Master values me greatly... as i do myself.

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 3:52:36 PM

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To me, it is more than possible to be both a person and objectified property.

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RE: Owner/property - 8/2/2005 4:06:51 PM

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Objectified property, yes. Object no. There is a significant difference there, at least in my viewpoint. I am HIS toy (objectified property) but not A toy for anyone off the street (object).

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