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RE: Wishlists? - 11/19/2007 9:04:09 PM   
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i love wishlists. They can be used to understand the tates of someone better, can make life much easier for shopping if on sites such as Amazon or Lip Service, or can be some sort of a test for more challenging/rare items to be found. A good idea all around:) And i am not saying this because i have a huge wishlist...hmmm...
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RE: Wishlists? - 11/20/2007 9:11:30 AM   
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Most "wishlist" people I ran into are in it for profit.  Sorry, power exchange means a lot more to me.  I question their motives, and do not want anything to do with them.  ...be they pro, "wishlist dommes", or "join my website dommes".   Some might have pure motives, but the fact is that there are 10 posers out there for 1 real person - so the stigma remains.  

My 2 cents

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/20/2007 10:12:21 AM   
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RE: Wishlists? - 11/19/2007 9:04:09 PM


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Status: offline i love wishlists. They can be used to understand the tates of someone better, can make life much easier for shopping if on sites such as Amazon or Lip Service, or can be some sort of a test for more challenging/rare items to be found. A good idea all around:) And i am not saying this because i have a huge wishlist...hmmm...
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Most "wishlist" people I ran into are in it for profit.  Sorry, power exchange means a lot more to me.  I question their motives, and do not want anything to do with them.  ...be they pro, "wishlist dommes", or "join my website dommes".   Some might have pure motives, but the fact is that there are 10 posers out there for 1 real person - so the stigma remains.  

My 2 cents


I'm personally glad my Miss has a wishlist.  She doesn't demand or expect gifts from me, but with her birthday and the holidays coming up, it's nice to be able to see what she really wants.  Also, since she is currently overseas, it is MUCH easier to order online and have them ship directly than have it shipped here and then sending it.

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/20/2007 5:54:29 PM   
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I have a wishlist also. Which is oddly enough from wishlist.com.
The list is really for me. I seen things all the time I would like. I have a lot of lifestyle and vanilla items on there. I try to buy one thing off my list once a month. I don't send my list to people I don't know.

I don't think wishlist are a bad thing at all. But when someone demands you to buy an item off their list before talking. Now that is when things get interesting.

If I was meeting someone for the first time and they wanted to buy me sometime. Of course I would send them my list. I think it's really sweet. And beside, that whip didn't pay for itself.



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RE: Wishlists? - 11/23/2007 9:04:38 AM   
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I use my wishlist to discourage the fakes, as well. The thing about my wishlist is that I have things that costs from pennies to thousands. And I let all potentials know that a gift is required monthly but it can be anything from the list. And as I learn about the many toys in the D/s lifestyle, I add them to my list. Thus, we all benefit. Besides, personally, I wouldn't want a pet who didn't feel that I was worth a few cents/month. Another benefit is the sub learns about me and I learn more about them. And, if the happen to be in a brick-n-mortar store and decide to get me something spontaneously, they will know more about my tastes.

Also, I require my pets to keep a blog and now I may consider requiring them to make a wishlist too. It would be a two-way street in which I can surprise my favorite pets with a delightful gift. And if I happen to be in a brick-n-morter store, I would know their tastes as well.


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RE: Wishlists? - 11/23/2007 9:54:10 AM   
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Lots of good answers here.  :)  I am persuaded, and will make a wishlist here and there.  After all, it's impossible for people to give you what you want if you don't know what you want, and articulate it clearly.

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/23/2007 10:36:26 AM   
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I can definitely see the value in them.  Ms. Mlicious gets all kinds of emails from guys looking for free wank letters from her.  They tell her how much they want to give her something or "tribute".  She sends her the link to her Northbound Leather tribute list.  Most disappear immediately.  Good way to separate the sincere from the bulls&*##ers.

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/23/2007 11:43:43 AM   
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Northbound Leather! LOL!  Yeah, that price list will weed out the wankers!

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/23/2007 12:25:04 PM   
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A wish list is appropriate if you are in a relationship with your submissive(s) gives them an opportunity to make a selection that would be pleasing to you, then again, their lack of imagination might cause them more time in the dungeon!

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/24/2007 3:08:24 AM   
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LillithWithin, thanks! Am going to go check out that site as it sounds like exactly what I need. Outside the internet I'm a list-giver for Xmas, birthdays and such and it's coming up on Christmas, time to "hand" one to my spouse and my mom. If this works well it'll be much better than emailing a list of wishlists lol!


You're most welcome! It's nice to be able to consolidate, and to include items from places that don't have wishlists. The shopping list function is helpful too.

I really should see if they have an affiliate program, I seem to have sent them dozens of people in the past few months! Anyhoo, glad I could be helpful. :>

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/24/2007 3:14:02 AM   
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What a wonderfull place! Im adding it to my list, hell its almost theraputic for me to "window shop" just to think of lovely things I'd like to get myself let alone worry if my slaves will treat me sometimes. I guess its a girls love to just dream of the lovely things she'd love to have.

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I love the window-shopping thing -- that site is the best way I've found to keep myself amused while on the phone with overly chatty relatives.

And there's the whole quantum physics/Secret concept, so perhaps by adding them to one's list, you're making it easier for that thing to find itself into your life.



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RE: Wishlists? - 11/24/2007 3:26:27 AM   
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Wishlist, ohhh brother.

At least they seperate true dominants from the fakes.  They don't bother me too much since I avoid them, but my beef is that sometiems these "wishlists" pop out of the blue. 






Really?  How does having, or not having, a wishlist seperate the "true" dominants from fakes?


Hi Ma`am, i have to agree that having a wish list isnt an indication of whether a Domme is fake or not. By the same token i am insulted when i read the phrase " I have a wishlist to seperate the true submissives from the fakes "  i really find that an insult and anyone who demands tribute of me before chatting, to prove if i am real or not, is no big loss to me. Many of us know we are genuine and dont wish to pay to prove it. i am quite happy to buy gifts for someone as and when i feel like doing so. That doesnt make me fake or tight fisted either, it just allows me to show my appreciation and affection in my own time.

It`s amazing to see how many Dommes profiles state they ask for tribute to prove a guy is genuine go on to say they are new to being a "Domme" . It seems to me these are just latching on to a good thing.

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/24/2007 7:34:08 AM   
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I agree with you Politesub.  For me, it's about basic compatibility and learning about each other as people.  If I have to buy something from your wishlist just to get to talk with you in order to determine if we are indeed compatible, it already tells me that we're probably not.  Why?  Because you're likely a materialistic woman who is more concerned with external trappings rather than the content within a sub.
 
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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 1:13:06 PM   
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Hi Ma`am, i have to agree that having a wish list isnt an indication of whether a Domme is fake or not. By the same token i am insulted when i read the phrase " I have a wishlist to seperate the true submissives from the fakes "  i really find that an insult and anyone who demands tribute of me before chatting, to prove if i am real or not, is no big loss to me. Many of us know we are genuine and dont wish to pay to prove it. i am quite happy to buy gifts for someone as and when i feel like doing so. That doesnt make me fake or tight fisted either, it just allows me to show my appreciation and affection in my own time.

It`s amazing to see how many Dommes profiles state they ask for tribute to prove a guy is genuine go on to say they are new to being a "Domme" . It seems to me these are just latching on to a good thing.


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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 1:25:16 PM   
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I am content if they pay for my coffee at the first meet, honestly.  It's the utter cheapskates who seem to ignore the basic tenets of courtship that grind my gears!  

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 1:54:49 PM   
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There are many different types of submission, gentlemen.  No offense, but you may not realize the kind of abject financial and personal servitude that some men try to promise to a woman over the Internet.  I routinely receive emails from men who say they want to re-locate immediately, throw themselves at my feet, support me financially and personally, hand over every dime of their income, and wait on me hand and foot for the rest of my days.  All they ask in return is to be used and humiliated.

Now, don't get me wrong, I can see the appeal of this fantasy of total submission for both the man and the woman.  However, when something seems too good to be true, it usually is.  And a man who is sincerely planning to hand over the keys to his body, soul, car and bank account to me should definitely have no problem proving his sincerity by buying me a $7 massage bar from Amazon.com!

In reality, almost none of these men are looking for a real relationship of any kind.  What they want is my participation in a chat/email fantasy that they find deeply erotic.  Talking about abject servitude gives them a wanktastic thrill which keeps the lotion flowing and the orgasms coming for hours and hours.  Even by talking about this nonsense with them, I am performing a service analogous to phone sex--and quite frankly, phone sex operators get paid quite handsomely to keep people supplied with one-handed entertainment.  Why shouldn't I receive some compensation for my time and energy as well?   ;)

A male submissive who has genuine real life love and submission to offer is a tribute in and of himself.  However, mentioning a wishlist is a GREAT way to drive away jerks who just want to use me for free porn.  If you don't believe this site is rife with such men, here's an email that arrived in my mailbox earlier this week, from a man who had approached me under a profile name that began with the word "servant". 

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[You cannot respond to this message because the account no longer exists]  


"I wanted to be honest with you and let you know that I am not a slave or a submissive in real life.  I am a vanilla guy.  I was just role playing online today when I was exchanging messages with you – nothing I told you was true, and the photos are not me either.  I am sorry for misleading you.  I was feeling a little kinky, as I do like some aspects of the fetish as it spices up regular sex, and I was just feeling a little playful today.  

Again I am sorry, as I understand that you are serious about the lifestyle.  I won’t do this anymore, and will delete this user id after sending you this message so that I don’t do it again.  All the best with what you’re looking for – stay safe and have fun.  Bye."  


Fake handle, fake name, fake photo, and the complete works for his fantasy:  "I'm a financially stable physically attractive 'natural born slave' who has been in the lifestyle since I was 17 and I want to come submit to you and be your property, I can cook clean massage and do windows, have lots of money and just want to sleep in your closet, yadda yadda yadda."

  A woman should be paid good money even to read emails from a guy like this, much less answer them with courtesy. Obviously I was decent and down-to-earth enough to make this person ashamed of himself--but most people who do this are completely without shame.  If mentioning my wishlist is all I need to do to make these wank-vampires turn instantly to dust, believe me, it's a small price to pay for the time and energy I'll save. 

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 2:34:17 PM   
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A male submissive who has genuine real life love and submission to offer is a tribute in and of himself.  However, mentioning a wishlist is a GREAT way to drive away jerks who just want to use me for free porn.


Not to mention a great way to drive away those who you find to be a tribute in the first place. ;)




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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 2:36:01 PM   
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Shaktisama,

I spoke with that exact same person online a week or two ago and he sent me the same "I'm oh so sorry, will never do it again" note.  I don't need his new nick, I recognize him clearly.

His apology note is part of his play, too.


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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 2:54:55 PM   
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His apology note is part of his play, too.


Ah, interesting.  And very mandarin--but to be expected, in retrospect.  One could hardly expect to be the first woman approached by a loser of such magnitude.

Nonetheless, the point still stands.  Men who approach in a realistic human vein, making polite conversation and an appointment to meet me for coffee?  Do not need to hear about my wishlist.  Men who approach me trying to get me to play along with their insanity and write them free porn?  Can pay for their pleasures with a token gift.  It's not much to ask.

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RE: Wishlists? - 11/25/2007 3:03:45 PM   
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His apology note is part of his play, too.


Ah, interesting.  And very mandarin--but to be expected, in retrospect.  One could hardly expect to be the first woman approached by a loser of such magnitude.

Nonetheless, the point still stands.  Men who approach in a realistic human vein, making polite conversation and an appointment to meet me for coffee?  Do not need to hear about my wishlist.  Men who approach me trying to get me to play along with their insanity and write them free porn?  Can pay for their pleasures with a token gift.  It's not much to ask.


I agree. :)

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