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cyberdude611 -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 3:31:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsSophie quote: ORIGINAL: eldervelvet The Scandanavian countries are committing cultural suicide, led by their pie in the sky elites who don't have to live day to day with the problem. Pardon? It's strange, you know, how I - who incidentally live in the midst of this "cultural suicide" - can see no evidence of it. Would you care to give examples? Keep letting those muslims in by the millions and your see it....

LadyEllen -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 3:32:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado That wasn't a moque, it was merely a curry stand...the mosque is on the corner. [:D] 'True enough; there was a spread in the local newspaper with Ellen running from the scene with a Chicken Balti, three plain naan bread, and some Indian beer under her arm.........local witnesses heard her screaming (repeatedly) "I fuckin' surrender!" while stealing said items and trying to burn the place down. Just another day in Birmingham, I suppose. The official police line is: "who cares, no charges will be pressed, put it down to high blood pressure or something". Chicken balti? Sir, I should have expected a gentleman to know that I would never consider for a moment, the consumption of peasant food! And beer? My goodness! And running? I'm quite perplexed! I have my meals - the finest dishes from the royal palaces, delivered by hand by a man on an elephant. One has to maintain a certain distance between ourselves and the natives dontchaknow? E

Level -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 3:52:47 PM)
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seeksfemslave -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 3:52:56 PM)
quote: Epgah speaking of China There's an old saying, "Never give a loaded revolver to a retarded child"...Can we assume it scales up to "Never give a NUKE to an immature country?" My son, and I say this with no respect whatsoever, when I see a post like this, of such moronic stupidity, you will force me to agree wth my old mate Meatcleaver, and even NG perish the thought lol, in believing that US chauvinism is a very dangerous thing indeed. By that I mean the simplistic John Wayne attitude to foreign affairs. Fortunately many American posters on CM do not reflect such attitudes. China an immature nation.? Only has been an advanced, politically structured, developed if authoritarian economy for at least 2000 years or more before Buffalo were shitting on, or native Americans were dancing on what is now Wall Street. Get a grip young man please lol

LadyEllen -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 3:57:11 PM)
bleedin' eck; Seeks as the voice of reason! Bit perturbed he mentioned MC and NG but not me though. Wonder if he's a closet Muslim? E

seeksfemslave -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:04:59 PM)
Lol ladyE but as far as you are concerned I am blinded by passion

LadyEllen -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:07:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Lol ladyE but as far as you are concerned I am blinded by passion Good thing really. I'm a bit scary up close after all. E

seeksfemslave -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:14:51 PM)
Not to me LadyE, If I weren't. (subjunctive case O K, Wenn ich nicht ware) such a gutless WunderKind we may well have collided in Real Time and not Cyber Space. Then the sparks would fly. Luv U madly lol

LadyEllen -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:17:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Not to me LadyE, If I weren't. (subjunctive case O K, Wenn ich nicht ware) such a gutless WunderKind we may well have collided in Real Time and not Cyber Space. Then the sparks would fly. Luv U madly lol yes, it is awkward, what with me needing a male escort to be able to leave the house and all. And theyre damned expensive too. E

seeksfemslave -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:24:17 PM)
This is turning into a thread breaking "luv in" but can that possibly be true ?

Level -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:25:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave This is turning into a thread breaking "luv in" but can that possibly be true ? Don't worry, seeks, someone will come along and fuck things up. [:D]

LadyEllen -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:45:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Don't worry, seeks, someone will come along and fuck things up. [:D] What? You mean come along and hijack our luv in by attempting to discuss the OP? Honestly, some people have no manners. Probably Muslims I'll wager. E

Level -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 4:46:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen quote: ORIGINAL: Level Don't worry, seeks, someone will come along and fuck things up. [:D] What? You mean come along and hijack our luv in by attempting to discuss the OP? Honestly, some people have no manners. Probably Muslims I'll wager. E *Muslims with bad haircuts. [:D]*

SimplyMichael -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 7:11:42 PM)
quote: . Iran wants to dominate the Middle East and wipe Israel off of the map...quite literally. And your proof of this is what? That they talk shit about Israel? Bush talks shit about Osama but you don't see him dead do you? Talk is cheap. Iran can'd "wipe Israel off the map" first of all even if they had a couple of nukes and if they did, Israel WILL destroy all of Iran and has the nuclear bombs and delivery capability to make it happen. quote: The only thing keeping them (Iran) in check is the US buildup in the region(agree with it or not) No offense but Iran is stronger BECAUSE of Bush not in spite of him. Everything we have done has allowed Iran to become more powerful, not less. quote: Previously, Saddam Hussein was a counterbalance to Iranian interests in the area...and the US wants a strong, stable Iraq to play a similar role. If we leave Iraq in ruin, without any stability...then Iran will be more than happy to come in and take over for us. Show me one thing Bush has done to stabilize Iraq that worked? Show me one thing Bush has done to stabilize Iraq that wasn't the opposite of what he should have done. Show me one thing Bush has done to stabilize Iraq that everyone else on the planet, including his daddy hadn't said previously was a very very bad fucking idea? Iran was always going to benefit from overthrowing Saddam, that was why Bush's daddy allowed Saddam to massacre the Shia who were stupid enough to believe the word of a Bush. quote: B. Iran has a defacto military alliance with Russia. Russia wants to be a global superpower again, and Vladimir Putin seems intent on getting it there. Having Iran, and an Iranian dominated Middle East, in his back pocket would be a huge step in the right direction. Google "the great game" and educate yourself. Iran is a natural ally of the US and Russia is her natural enemy. The only reason that isn't the case is Texans. quote: Iran is unpredictable enough. Iran might be unpredictable to you but to many people their motivations, intent, and actions are quite clear and obvious. They are after all, a functioning democracy unlike any of our allies in the ME. What do YOU find unpredictable? quote: Even Terrorists can become a Superpower under the right circumstances. This I gotta hear? How exactly does this happen unless you are speaking of Bush and his cronies as terrorists? quote: An Iranian dominated, Russian backed, Middle East could be just that...and they would most certainly try to wipe Israel off of the map. 1948, 1956, 1968, 1973...catching on yet? quote: The Middle East is a powder keg for a reason. Because we keep overthrowing democracies and installing dictators all with the intent of keeping oil and profits flowing?

luckydog1 -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 7:23:38 PM)
Iran is a functioning democracy? Want to buy a bridge?

Shawn1066 -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 7:33:09 PM)
Don't be so blinded by your dislike of the Bush Administration that you forget to look at simple logic. Russia and Iran may not be natural allies, but politics will make people strange bedfellows. Case in point... The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were aligned for a period of time at the beginning of World War II despite being very natural enemies at the time. They had common goals, for a brief amount of time. Later, the USSR and the US, of course, became allies for a time despite being natural enemies. They had common goals, for a brief amount of time. Iran and Russia can most certainly have a common goal. Just because things have been one way for a time, doesn't mean they always have to be that way. It's simple logic. You give two enemies a common goal, and they can become very good friends...for a time. You greatly underestimate Iranian power and influence in the region...and it's something that's growing. Isreal can only do so much to stop it... Now, I wouldn't put them past staging a preemptive strike, which I would certainly support. The rest of your stuff is really a bit too "Oh my God, Bush is the root of all evil." to really need a response. :-p You have your views and I have mine. We're obviously not going to agree or change our opinons thanks to this thread. I've made my points and I will not drag this out into a wall o' text argument.

SimplyMichael -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 7:50:16 PM)
Shawn, My view is based on reading about and experiencing history as an adult longer than you have been alive. Your "simple logic" is just that, simple and you can't grasp the complexity of the level I am operating on. Russia and Iran ARE currently allies but ONLY because your hero Bush has forced them into that situation, Iran fears Russia just less so than she fears us. As for the rest of my "stuff" sorry it went over your head, perhaps in a decade or two from now you will have matured enough to grasp the truth in what I am saying today, if you are under DV wings, I have high hopes for you.

SimplyMichael -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 7:54:21 PM)
Shawn, Case in point, can you remember the year in which Iran LAST helped the US? I am old enough to have lived at that time so I am curious if you can recall the year, I can. Please, nobody else spoil the answer, you know that old youth-speed vs. age-treachery thing...

Shawn1066 -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 8:03:32 PM)
You've made disparaging remarks about my intelligence and my age simply because I don't agree with your point of view. One would think that your age, which you seem to value so much, would bring enough maturity to respect other people's views and ideas on issues. I respect your opinion, after all. I wonder why it's so strange of you to respect mine. I guess that's a little too much to ask. I debate you--in a friendly fashion--and then you deem in necessary to basically call me stupid just because I don't see things your way. I just find that a little odd...but I will not hold it against you. Like I said... I've said my piece in the issue. :-)

OrionTheWolf -> RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now (10/16/2007 8:05:46 PM)
After certain corporations making a profit in the ME, the Non-Con rule will come to an end. The troops will be withdrawn, maybe small amount left for observation and advisor duties. The Iraq will sink further into civil war. Iran does not have the fiscal might to absorb Iraq, so they will not make a move, but the region will be in chaos. Everyone in the ME will be focusing on the chaos caused by the destablization, and not focusing efforts elsewhere. Just a theory but the only one I can think has a small bit of logic to it. Not all republicans support the Non-Cons. There are brainwashed people on both sides of the isle. Orion

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