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tempted - 7/30/2005 4:07:13 PM

Superman42280

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I'll certainly slow down on questions, but I have a few I'll ask all in one sitting so I dont clutter up the board that I'm genuinely curious of:

I understand feelings of wanting to Dominante, I've always felt those and am trying to deal with those now on here, but I'd like to understand the flip side more -- so that I can better dominate my slave when I have one.

Do subs/slaves ever get tempted to disobey their Masters? When they get in trouble or have to do something they don't want to do, say "I'm an adult, I'm not required to do this, do it your self" or "you cant make me stay in this room if I don't want to" -- anything like that...?

And submission is something born inside you, right? Early in life, you all were eager to please and obey and don't remmeber feeling any way else?

has anyone met their sig other without the use of the Internet or munches or anything who doesnt participate *at all* in any group BDSM activities except for this website?

Thanks for your patience, still learning.

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RE: tempted - 7/30/2005 4:16:08 PM

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I can't give you my experience on being tempted to disobey my Master because I haven't actually had what I would call a real one, but I can answer the question for myself on whether or not I was born with it. Yes, I believe I was. My mother always said that for the most part I was a good child but then I remember being afraid of her, not just by physical punishment but of disappointing her or even getting "the look". I didn't really grow up with my father but in grade school my mom remarried and I remember just wanting to please him. I carried this over into my relationships as an adult. I know my desire to be submissive even as a child wasn't caused from abuse, although there was some abuse from my mother, but more because I lived for praise. I could handle the spankings when I got into trouble and always knew that I deserved them, when they were deserved...I'm sure we have all been punished for things we didn't do. If I wasn't born this way then it was something developed early on before I can remember.

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RE: tempted - 7/30/2005 4:31:19 PM

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I'll start from the top.

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Do subs/slaves ever get tempted to disobey their Masters? When they get in trouble or have to do something they don't want to do, say "I'm an adult, I'm not required to do this, do it your self" or "you cant make me stay in this room if I don't want to" -- anything like that...?

I know I have fits of pique from time to time, and my general outgoing and assertive nature battles with my submissive one. This is where the importance of self control comes in. Many Dominants will tell you it's tiring to have to micromanage another human being. If you're constantly having to correct for lack of self control, or attempting the impossible - controlling that person instead - I doubt you'll feel fulfilled for very long, if at all. I must control myself and put aside the battle of internal wills and do what I promised to do, which is obey. Plain and simple. On the flip side of that, a sub/slave left too much to her own devices may get bored, if her primary focus is to be her Dominant. At that point, she may test limits, in an attempt to provoke a response. See the Bratty subs/slaves topic in the Ask a Master section.

http://www.collarchat.com/bratty_subs_and_slaves/m_134324/tm.htm

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And submission is something born inside you, right? Early in life, you all were eager to please and obey and don't remmeber feeling any way else?

While I can say that I was born a sub, I can't honestly say that I was eager to please just anyone. I respond best to positive reinforcement. Those who treated me thusly, were the ones I tried to please. Everyone else got what I was dishing out that day. The problem inherent in the idea of obeying to the letter as the single and only objective is that the sub/slave may not seek or find opportunities to grow, apart for how her Dominant is growing. Does that make sense? As a children who are expected to obey, little room is left for learning through experience and mistakes.

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has anyone met their sig other without the use of the Internet or munches or anything who doesnt participate *at all* in any group BDSM activities except for this website?

I'm not sure I understand this question. I met my husband in college; he wasn't interested in BDSM and I didn't bring it up. Only over the last few years have we opened a dialogue and recently started exploring together. I hope that answers your question, if not I can try again.

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RE: tempted - 7/31/2005 1:56:36 AM

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I have tempted faith and disobeyed my Master just to get his attention. We live apart and I havent seen him much and I disobeyed himjust to get his attention.I told him that i did it to get his attention and i was punished for it. It felt good and it had put me back into my place. When I was younger I had a great friend whom was domminate over me . I had enjoyed serving her. as we grew up we went our seperate ways. I had want-a-be Masters but no one could control me. Then I met my Master and he has changed my life for the better

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RE: tempted - 7/31/2005 8:13:53 AM

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Have i been tempted to disobey Him? Heck yeah, i imagine it's a rare sub/slave who has never had a "make me" moment, lol. In reality, though, the thought of disappointing Him is enough of a deterrent that these moments are few and far between, and pass very quickly. Was i born a submissive? Hard to say... i was abused as a child and repressed for years afterward, so i was in my 20s before i started exploring who i was. It comes very naturally to me, however, so i suppose it's possible. As for the 3rd question, Master and i met online so i can't help you there.

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RE: tempted - 7/31/2005 10:08:45 AM

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Am I ever tempted to disobey? No. I am here to make Her happy, to make Her life better and easier. She is happy to beat me at any time- why would I want to be punished?

I always try to please people. Do they all have my respect? No. Am I submissive to everyone? Hell no.

Mistress and I met thru mutual lifestyle friends and became friends first. We spent a year getting to know each other's tastes and wants, and now I am Hers.

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RE: tempted - 7/31/2005 6:35:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Superman42280

Do subs/slaves ever get tempted to disobey their Masters? When they get in trouble or have to do something they don't want to do, say "I'm an adult, I'm not required to do this, do it your self" or "you cant make me stay in this room if I don't want to" -- anything like that...?

Yes...specially when I'm doing something nice for him (like, washing dishes) and he tells me to stop it right now with all of his lungs.

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And submission is something born inside you, right? Early in life, you all were eager to please and obey and don't remmeber feeling any way else?

Yes...I have always been submissive, but only to the people I care and love...the rest, I don't sweat to much for it.

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has anyone met their sig other without the use of the Internet or munches or anything who doesnt participate *at all* in any group BDSM activities except for this website?

Yes...I met him out of the cyber world or the BDSM world. I always felt couriousity about it, but I never did it, because I live in a very catholic country and BDSM is unknown. So, I met him and he showed me. We are still together.

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Thanks for your patience, still learning.

No problem...I'm still learning my self.

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RE: tempted - 7/31/2005 8:56:48 PM

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yes I am tempted to disobey Him...living apart as we do it is sometimes difficult to do exactly as He wishes.. I have a life here and He has one there.. it is sometimes extremely difficult not to do things "my way" when i know it will be easier..but at the same time.. I am His ,, He owns me and I promised to obey Him. so I have to stop and think"do I really want to do this and disapoint HIm" usually the answer is No and when i do disobey I wind up telling HIm anyway out of guilt and have to do it over His way anyway on top of the punishment so what did I accomplish in the first place by disobeying?

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