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Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 10:44:04 AM   
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Hi,

So again, here I am, with my over active thought processes. I was just thinking today,I personally believe pleasing a dominant in a non sexually way to be just as important as the sexual side of a d/s relationship, what else do you do for your partner/dominant that is non sexual?

What does your dominant expect from you? Is there anything you love to do for your partner? and is there anything you don't  particularly enjoy doing for your dominant, but you do it anyway?

I do realise its a very individual response and that its related to everyones personal choice and relationship. I was just curious because I would like to do other things to please rather than it just all being sexual.

I'm thinking taking care of a dominant by doing household chores; cooking, washing, ironing, cleaning. (Although this must comes from deep inside me, because sometimes I can be a bit of a femminist too!) but what other ways are there? There's the odd surprise, finding a cd, book, dvd that you know your dom desperately wants.

Are you free to do these things for your dominant?

Anyone got any thoughts?

Fi x 

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 11:05:26 AM   
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Being available at all times so he can do what he wants without having to worry I am going to sulk or feel left out.
Supporting his endeavours and being there for exactly what he wants at the right moment, like carrying camera equipment or promoting his music.
Being myself and speaking up.
Cooking, cleaning.
Worshiping him.
 
And cleaning the toilet.
 
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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 11:12:19 AM   
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Thanks for replying. Yeah I don't know any man, let alone dom who does toilet cleaning. I have to admit that is the most yukky job in the world. lol

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 11:33:16 AM   
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Obviously, fifi, you only know slobs.  I've no problems cleaning my own toilet.  I certainly don't object to my slave doing that routine chore when I have a 24/7 slave ... however, even then ... when after eating something that becomes claustrophobic & wants out really fast ... I clean things up instead of leaving a mess for my slave.  Being a considerate human being does not negate being a Dom.

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Thanks for replying. Yeah I don't know any man, let alone dom who does toilet cleaning. I have to admit that is the most yukky job in the world. lol

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 12:13:53 PM   
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no one was suggesting that dominants find cleaning toilets impossible, but an example was given of what one would do for their dominant that is non sexual and that is something one wouldn't just 'do' for anyone else.
Not everything has to be serious yanno...
 
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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 12:16:40 PM   
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Part of being in a 24/7 power exchange relationship is doing things we like and not like to do but have accepted and dedicated ourselves to doing which is like most healthy relationships. In fact one of the great low pleasures for me in this life is how things I might have put off or complained about are not even an issue or about right or wrong but about my commitment, integrity and devotion.

I love my Master and think he is truly spectacular but I do not get emotional when I do most of the everyday chores that you describe. I do not think it is realistic when measuring a relationship in years that I whistle in happiness because cooking most of the meals is an honor. Does not meant to say I do not get excited or extra happy if I am in a certain mood for whatever reason or have thought of something special for him that I think he will like.

Certainly finding the small things in life like giving small gifts randomly, finding a program on TV and recording it that he may like, and plenty of other non sexual things are some truly feel good things in my life. I also though think that is not so much about power exchange and more just about being in love with my man just like most healthy relationships. I am just happier or in a better place to be happier by being in a power exchange relationship.

I am free and encourage doing a lot of things on my own volition. There is control for the benefit of one of us or both and control for the sake of control. For our relationship what you describe just would not even be thought of as a right or wrong thing.


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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 12:20:53 PM   
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oh it's not that bad....

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 12:23:02 PM   
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What does your dominant expect from you? Is there anything you love to do for your partner? and is there anything you don't  particularly enjoy doing for your dominant, but you do it anyway?


He expects me to be the best, strongest person I can be.  It pleases him when I excel at work, or when I help my family out, or when I take care of major projects at home without issue. 

As for doing specific things related to him, well all sorts of things:  I massage him, I write for him, I shop for him, I run errands for him, I research things for him, make travel arrangements for him, take photos for him, and soon will be helping him at work.

And anything else either of us thinks of...

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I do realise its a very individual response and that its related to everyones personal choice and relationship. I was just curious because I would like to do other things to please rather than it just all being sexual.


We are highly sexual, but certainly not "all" sexual.  He does not consider me a "sex slave" although that is part of what I am.

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I'm thinking taking care of a dominant by doing household chores; cooking, washing, ironing, cleaning. (Although this must comes from deep inside me, because sometimes I can be a bit of a femminist too!) but what other ways are there? There's the odd surprise, finding a cd, book, dvd that you know your dom desperately wants.


All these are great, if he wants that of you.  If he doesn't, you will be in conflict.

Those surprises you mentioned are great.  I do that when I can, or if I see something I know he will enjoy, I surprise him with it as a gift.

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Are you free to do these things for your dominant?


I'm free to do some of those things for my Master, but not all, although I would love to do all of them and more.

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 12:27:41 PM   
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I don't think you can distinguish between "the sexual side" and "the non-sexual side"--unless it's an incomplete relationship.  Anything you do for your dom has some sexual aspect to it, even if it's not an overt sexual act.  Why?  Because you're doing it for your dom, not for your brother.

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I was just thinking today,I personally believe pleasing a dominant in a non sexually way to be just as important as the sexual side of a d/s relationship, what else do you do for your partner/dominant that is non sexual?

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 12:55:16 PM   
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I personally believe pleasing a dominant in a non sexually way to be just as important as the sexual side of a d/s relationship, what else do you do for your partner/dominant that is non sexual?


I do all sorts of things specifically for him. I file his work papers, address the Xmas cards for his employees, do research related to his work and outside work which he needs done, go pick up supplies for his various hobbies, I laugh at his jokes when I get them , I supply ears when he needs to vent, a shoulder when he needs something to lean on, a foot rest when he needs to rest his feet, an extra brain when he needs to find a solution etc. etc.

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What does your dominant expect from you?


Everything of which I'm capable.

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Is there anything you love to do for your partner?


I get the biggest thrill when he 'asks' me to do things. Get him a drink of water, make him a sandwhich ... stupid little stuff that means to the world to me.  I enjoy reactive service on occasion though feel it is better to serve him actively rather than reactively because that's his preference. Since reactive service doesn't happen as often, it's more precious to me.

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 and is there anything you don't  particularly enjoy doing for your dominant, but you do it anyway?


Well, sure. It's not all roses and cupcakes. The hardest orders for me to follow are those which effect his health negatively. That usually has to do with him ordering up a specific meal which is high in carbs or sugar. Later, when his sugar goes out of whack, I have to watch him suffer and that hurts my heart. Fortunately, that doesn't happen all that often. Any orders which affect his health negatively will always have to come as active dominance on his part because I never actively serve that which harms him. Say, for example, he orders me to bake a chocolate cake, I'll remind him of the effects of eating it, then make him a chocolate cake. What's in my heart while I'm making it isn't joy though .. it's worry.

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Are you free to do these things for your dominant?


I'm free to do some things and not others. I'm not allowed to clean his office for example. As for the other stuff, like washing dishes, scrubing toilets, dusting etc. I don't consider such as things I do for 'him' as I'd be doing that whether he was around or not.

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 1:22:17 PM   
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I'm sorry if people didn't understand why I laughed its just one of those jobs we all do, no matter what, yet out of them all its not the most pleasant we can all agree on that. I wasn't saying that because a dom did/didn't clean a loo it was bad.  

I agree with what most people have posted, cleaning, washing, ironing, cooking are all things I do for myself anyway, doing it for a dom some day would be an added pleasure. As long as I can have music on sometimes.

I particularly liked what Lordandmaster had to say, I'm not trying to distingush between non sexual acts and sexual ones. I just wondered what kind of things non sexually subs and doms enjoyed doing. More really look into ideas and suggestions. I sometimes feel that a lot of the questions,topics that are here focus on the sexual side more than the non sexual, and I understand why, but this is just what I have found so far .

I'd like to do most things here for any potential dom I may be with, and I would do this kind of thing for anyone I had some connection with, loved ones, family, friends, and in doing so it gives me great pleasure in knowing I've helped someone. As well as the satisfaction I personally get from completing a job/task/act.

Thank you all for replying and adding your thoughts to this.

Fi x

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 1:29:18 PM   
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Those are all good things (and, you know, if your dom wants any of those done, he should tell you), but sometimes a thoughtful act or gift can go a long way, even if it doesn't have any obvious practical value.  If you're talented artistically, draw him a picture.  Write him a poem (but make sure you know how to write poetry--don't write him crap).  Find a small gift that you know he'd enjoy because it's something he has mentioned or something he can use while he pursues his favorite hobby.  A knowing gift like that is worth a lot.

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I agree with what most people have posted, cleaning, washing, ironing, cooking are all things I do for myself anyway, doing it for a dom some day would be an added pleasure. As long as I can have music on sometimes.

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 1:40:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: submissfifi

Hi,

So again, here I am, with my over active thought processes. I was just thinking today,I personally believe pleasing a dominant in a non sexually way to be just as important as the sexual side of a d/s relationship, what else do you do for your partner/dominant that is non sexual?

First of all, I agreee with those who have already said it is hard to differentiate between sexual and non-sexual in a full time tpe relationship, however I also understand your questions.  I get up way early (to me it is way early!lol!) and go downstairs.  I make coffee and I put Sir's lunch together.  I always have things he likes for his lunches, including snacks and juice for breaks and there is always something home-baked as well.  I take his coffe back upstairs in a thermal pot and give him a cup in bed exactly the way he told me to do it 10 years ago.  Then I lay out his clothed for that day and make sure his wallet, phone, pocketknife, keys, badge, etc are all where he expects them to be.  I get back in bed and we have a little morning ritual to begin the day for both of us in a calm and focused way.  here the line blurs, because the end of the ritual is sexual.  After he leaves for work I make the bed and do any upstairs cleaning up I need to do that morning.
I take care of the house and do alot of outside work (we ahve 6 acres of outside, sometimes it takes me all week to cut the grass that needs to be takem care of!!!)  I do all the things a 1950's "homemaker" would have done because it was "her job".  I love to bake, and I love to cook.  Our ums are grown and gone, so nothing to do there anymore.  I take time for myself; I read, I write, I sew, I sit in the garden and watch the hawks and the foxes and the deer.


What does your dominant expect from you? Is there anything you love to do for your partner? and is there anything you don't  particularly enjoy doing for your dominant, but you do it anyway?

He expects me to take good care of myself.  He expects me to take good care of him.  He expects me to let him know if something needs to be taken care of.  Just a few minutes ago i followed a "bad smell" and found interesting colored effluent in the downstairs shower!!!  I made sure it was not draining, but getting deeper (sometimes the washing machine draining will have odd effrects on things) and I called him immediately.  On the phone I checked certain things for him with the septic system so he had a better idea of what was goign on and now alas - I cannot run any water in the house!  lmao - while that means no washing dishes or laundry, it also means no shower before he gets home - so at times we take the good and the bad in the same dose!  Tonight was supposed to be a long play night for us, LMAO and the house has other ideas!!! But such is real life and  we just roll with the punches.

I don't "like" making the bed, but I have done it every single day for 10 years now, unless I was actually sick or not at home!  yes I make the beds in hotels because he wants me to!  I don't "like  getting up at 5:30, but I do and he goes to wrok early so he can get home early and that's something he does for me.



Are you free to do these things for your dominant?

Yes, he enjoys surprises and yes after this long I do know what it will be "ok" and when it's better not to do it.



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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 2:23:00 PM   
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Anything you do for your dom has some sexual aspect to it, even if it's not an overt sexual act.  Why?  Because you're doing it for your dom, not for your brother.


Ha!  I love that - can I use it? :)

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 2:26:25 PM   
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Just pay me royalties.

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 2:40:12 PM   
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1%? 

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 2:45:54 PM   
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I have had several of my boys who cleaned toilets.  I had a Dom partner who was fanatical about it, actually, he didnt like how anyone else did it, so he did.
Just an aside
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Thanks for replying. Yeah I don't know any man, let alone dom who does toilet cleaning. I have to admit that is the most yukky job in the world. lol


My boys both are expected to keep me busy and carry on conversations. We play video games together. We watch movies.  They help me fold and hang laundry, and do dishes. They vacuum, since I hate vacuuming. Fox poses for photos, Angel works on my computer. Angel and I go on long pointless walks talking about mundane subjects to get my mind off stress.
Amazingly, neither of my boys is terribly concerned about pleasing me sexually.  Their service is far more important nonsexually, right now.

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 2:58:40 PM   
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A couple of things I do pretty frequently are wake-up calls and being His navigator over the phone when He's traveling.

Whether I'm working or not, and no matter what time I'm getting up, I set my cell phone alarm to wake me up at whatever time He needs to get up and I call Him. 

If I'm not working and have access to my computer, He will call me while He's on the road for driving directions.  I guess I'm more fun than a GPS.  

Those are just a couple of non-sexual services I perform frequently that please Him.

Oh and over the summer, He was out of town for a couple of weeks and gave me the order to make Him a CD of zydeco music and mail it to Him.  I coulda just made a CD of any ole zydeco music, but being the perfectionist I am, I had to research, listen and carefully choose what songs to put on the CD.  I know He's a sadist and all, but good grief... I told Him that I had a new hard limit - zydeco music!  And in His best domly tone, He politely informed me that I have no limits with Him.   Hmmmpphhhh.      *grumble grumble*

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 2:59:18 PM   
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I thought this was the 'ask a sub' forum.

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RE: Pleasing a dom non sexually.. - 10/19/2007 3:19:46 PM   
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Everything?  I mean, it really could be a nearly endless list. 

Although I disagree that it's all sexual.  Just because I have a sexual relationship with someone does not mean ALL levels of connection contain some sexuality in it. 

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