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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 6:13:30 AM   
meticulousgirl


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Status: offline 		When i was younger i use to wonder about lists like you are mentioning however, shouldn't common knowledge be enough to dictate whether or not we continue on in conversation or even play with someone.  We are all human some people make mistakes and others that claim they are serious about this lifestyle are not and it's obvious, cant we just use our brains rather than bashing people all over the internet, maybe i'm the only one who thinks this way, i'm not sure but, if i were to be posed as a fake or wannabe and then have it posted all over the internet, when infact this lifestyle is my life (which it is) i wouldn't be a very happy person.

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 8:07:09 AM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		I think you are all fakes and phonies.. You hold on to a idea or concept that is made up of fantasy and a combination of addictions. Fallowed by a complex desire to be fulfilled in some twisted way that never last.

Like sands in the hour glass. it blows away.  Many of you claim to be real.. Hell most of you never heard of kink till the INTERNET went big. Now everyone in the world is a freaking expert. how shallow is that . I mean come on lets get real.  talk about ocd over nothing. Yes there are tourist.!!!

   Yes there are people who call them selves lifestyle. But when you look at the back grounds of how they got to where they are now.  You see they are no more lifestyle then anyone else. IN this fantasy realm you have created. FYI just So you know Society is pissed. I mean Nilla and Kink a like. You spend to much time trying to reinvent the wheel of idealism in BDSM. that  you suffocate the beauty of everything.  Call it selfish desire shrugs

I think what this thread says we are all in that same boat of fakes and wannabe. 
     If you learned from a BDSM for dummies or someone acting out fantasy (like a ex boy friend or husband or girlfriend or payed servant. ) then you are not lifestyle. Your no different then the club kiddies that go from one rave or goth thingy or fetish event to the next for a thrill. ( lifestyle means you are it in every way. But your not a fashion Nazi your something deeper suppose to be)  But  here is where we go crazy again. Your way is not my way and yaddaa yadda. No ones way is the right one yadda yadda  Grow the fuck up. With out standards or labels of  identifiers.  You would never find your way through forest of thought. it would be one Grey mass of yuck. It would be like a dog chasing its tail.. You would never get anywhere

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 8:18:44 AM   
SimplyMichael


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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 8:42:24 AM   
LATEXBABY64


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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 8:57:35 AM   
camille65


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I think you are all fakes and phonies.. You hold on to a idea or concept that is made up of fantasy and a combination of addictions. Fallowed by a complex desire to be fulfilled in some twisted way that never last. Funny typo actually, fallow. I know you didn't mean to be clever which makes it even more funny.

Like sands in the hour glass. it blows away. If the sand is in an hourglass, how can it blow away? It is contained.  Many of you claim to be real.. Hell most of you never heard of kink till the INTERNET went big. Now everyone in the world is a freaking expert. how shallow is that . I mean come on lets get real.  talk about ocd over nothing. Yes there are tourist.!!! Thats funny. Seriously it is. So all the D/s I was involved in before the internet was born doesn't count? Or is it the other way around? Everything past 1995 (when I found the internet) is false?

  Yes there are people who call them selves lifestyle. But when you look at the back grounds of how they got to where they are now. What precisely (in regards to someones background) gives you the irrefutable proof of 'realness'? That sounds like information everyone could use, don't be selfish. Share your wisdom on differeniating between a real background and a false one. You see they are no more lifestyle then anyone else. IN this fantasy realm you have created. FYI just So you know Society is pissed. I mean Nilla and Kink a like. You spend to much time trying to reinvent the wheel of idealism in BDSM. that  you suffocate the beauty of everything.  Call it selfish desire shrugs Society, both nilla and kink are pissed? Um, pissed off about what exactly?

I think what this thread says we are all in that same boat of fakes and wannabe. I can assure you, I am not in the same boat as you are. I don't even think we are in the same ocean.
    If you learned from a BDSM for dummies or someone acting out fantasy (like a ex boy friend or husband or girlfriend or payed servant. ) then you are not lifestyle.Is learning from books and relationships not lifestyle learning? How does one get background in something without a learning curve or teachers?  Your no different then the club kiddies that go from one rave or goth thingy or fetish event to the next for a thrill. ( lifestyle means you are it in every way. But your not a fashion Nazi your something deeper suppose to be)  But  here is where we go crazy again. Your way is not my way and yaddaa yadda. No ones way is the right one yadda yadda  Grow the fuck up. With out standards or labels of  identifiers.  You would never find your way through forest of thought. it would be one Grey mass of yuck. It would be like a dog chasing its tail.. You would never get anywhere
You come across as so angry and bitter. Who the hell are you to decide who is lifestyle or not? Do you carry a rubber stamp so you can identify those real or not?
 
Honestly you make no sense. 'Learning from books or people is not lifestyle'. 'Labels are wrong'. *I label myself as a submissive woman na na*
 
That is all that I could actually comprehend from your post, the whole goth club fashion nazi yadda yadda bit was unintelligable, at least to me.

Heres your sign  



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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 9:02:35 AM   
RosesHaveThorns


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Status: offline 		So no one way is correct, but LATEXBABY64's way is right and everyone who learned about kink on teh interwebs, a book or another person are not really into BDSM?

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 9:05:58 AM   
camille65


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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 9:09:35 AM   
batshalom


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Have you ever really considered how many people out here are totally off their fucking rockers? 


Well.

At least one.

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 9:12:20 AM   
stef


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

To bad the irony of your post is lost on you.

There appears to be very little that isn't lost on him, this shouldn't come as any surprise to you.

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 4:17:06 PM   
susie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

that chip on your shoulder becomming a ball and chain


You might want to take a good look in the mirror before making comments like that!

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 5:59:01 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		humm lead by example. You spent to much time really looking deep into my post.
but oh well.  lets come to a  understanding.  It is the common sense that there is no right way for anything. = Faulty logic. Logic would mean balance and harmony.
but drama which seen a lot on the boards and rt and on line seems to be the thrill at the moment.  OK whatever be a fashion Nazi.  If you do not agree with it so what who cares.  when someones reads a post they think in only a two d term.  I could have been laughing or joking about. or could have been totally aggressive in my stance of what I see. How ever what ever You may think life will smack ya around till you get it. No matter what I say or post. You will always find the facts in what I say to be true.  Some people just have found out for them selves  live and burn :)

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 6:30:34 PM   
kc692


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Status: offline 		wow the zen master of the lifestyle......

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 6:53:42 PM   
maclough


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Status: offline 		Oh my... ok yes in my profile I discuss wannabes, fakes and such... want to know the problem with "outing" someone though... What you think of as a wannabe and what i think is a wannabe maybe two totally different views.  To me someone who only keeps their BDSM in the bedroom is a kinkster, but to you that maybe totally BDSM.  So, that would be the problem with "outing" people.  Hope that makes sense?  It's a tough call and not everyone's view is the same.  

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 8:40:50 PM   
kisty


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Status: offline 		so far it has been my experience in collarme that most people are just that, fakes,players ,wannabes, and i'll add one more, ASSHOLES!

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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 10:46:23 PM   
stef


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RE: Outing the 'fakes', 'players' and 'wannabes' - 10/26/2007 11:13:03 PM   
RosesHaveThorns


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quote:

humm lead by example. You spent to much time really looking deep into my post.
If your arguments do not hold up to scrunity, then they are nonsense. Saying that they have spent too much time is also is the worst evasion of someone calling you out on poor logic I've seen in a while. You could at least try to support your statements.

quote:

but oh well.  lets come to a  understanding.  It is the common sense that there is no right way for anything. = Faulty logic.

Why? Speaking as an anthropology student, the FIRST thing they teach you is that morality and customs are subjective, not objective. Everyone has their own. Why you think differently needs a bit of support here.

quote:

-Logic would mean balance and harmony.
Back on the real world, life is complicated, messy, and chaotic. You cannot condense it into a neat, tidy little package.

quote:

but drama which seen a lot on the boards and rt and on line seems to be the thrill at the moment.

Says the guy who calls everyone who disagrees with him wrong? Even if they are polite, and listen to his arguments? This is supposed to be ironic, right?

quote:

OK whatever be a fashion Nazi.
Where did your clothes come into this?

quote:

If you do not agree with it so what who cares.  when someones reads a post they think in only a two d term.  I could have been laughing or joking about.
or could have been totally aggressive in my stance of what I see.
So, you say that everyone here cannot comprehend complex arguments, or understand another viewpoint? (I at least think that's what it means)

quote:

How ever what ever You may think life will smack ya around till you get it. No matter what I say or post. You will always find the facts in what I say to be true.
Life has taught me the opposite, actually. People scream and get angry a whole lot less if I don't randomly call them wrong without edvidence. And you have yet to present facts, simply opinions which you hold to be true. And if opinions were true, then the Men's Water Polo team would decide to forego the use of speedos and just play naked. I don't think that this has quite happened yet.

quote:

Some people just have found out for them selves  live and burn :)
These people you speak of are amazingly quiet on the boards.

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