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Cyntilating -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 3:51:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

Now my orientation is being questioned!


stop....drop....and rollllllllll




Missokyst -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 6:14:17 AM)

yeah, what she said

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs


There is also a point I wish to add upon, and that is of having anybody come to one's home unless there has been a long and tested relationship with someone.  Home is safety and your sense of grounding, security and peace as well as control.  Once robbed of such, you really cannot feel at peace or feel as safe anymore. 
 




kc692 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 7:25:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

Now my orientation is being questioned!


I'm not questioning your orientation.....your profile LISTS you as dominant.   My question is, are you complaining how a "big bad domme" took advantage of another "domme" who supposedly is in control?  I'm questioning more than your orientation, hun.




subsfaith -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 9:01:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

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ORIGINAL: subsfaith

But in relation to the 'community' stance,  I too have witnessed what the OP talks about.  Lies and deceit in order to wield control over a submissive, or just get a shag.  I have broken friendships with long standing friends because of such behaviour. 


How does this differ from vanilla?  It is not the community that does this, it is just sorry individuals who happen to profess to be in the community. 


I completely agree with you.  There are people in all walks of life that practice such crap, but how many vanilla use power to further dishonest agendas, for example 'you are being punished for X, do not contact me... blah blah blah'.  These people masquerade as doms and Master in this community, when they are nothing more than pussy-led.  So this can be BDSM specific.  Should I tolerate it ..... nah, not for a moment, regardless of genre, kink, or orientation.

Faith
:: smiles ::




Missokyst -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 9:35:58 AM)

So do you go around helping the clueless?  I for one think that as adults we should learn from mistakes we make, maybe listen to others to avoid mistakes, but always take responsibility for our own part in the situation.  I have made plenty of mistakes in my life, I try to take a clue from each one.  Should I be relying on the community to help me negotiate through my life? 
As for nillas having something like that, check out dontdatehimgirl.com.  It is full of people fed up with real or imagined bs, and giving out details on the bad guys out there.  Seems bitchy to me, but people do it.  It also presumes that because a person was wrong for someone, he must be a piece of * and bad for anyone else.
I wonder how many of us would pass the good for everyone challenge?
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: subsfaith

quote:

ORIGINAL: Invictus754

quote:

ORIGINAL: subsfaith

But in relation to the 'community' stance,  I too have witnessed what the OP talks about.  Lies and deceit in order to wield control over a submissive, or just get a shag.  I have broken friendships with long standing friends because of such behaviour. 


How does this differ from vanilla?  It is not the community that does this, it is just sorry individuals who happen to profess to be in the community. 


I completely agree with you.  There are people in all walks of life that practice such crap, but how many vanilla use power to further dishonest agendas, for example 'you are being punished for X, do not contact me... blah blah blah'.  These people masquerade as doms and Master in this community, when they are nothing more than pussy-led.  So this can be BDSM specific.  Should I tolerate it ..... nah, not for a moment, regardless of genre, kink, or orientation.

Faith
:: smiles ::





kirby104 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 12:28:49 PM)

So, I'm a horrible storyteller. But I WOULD be there for decent people, and I would not attack unless defending myself.  As for this crap about not taking responsibility, this is the only thing that I've been doing. I thought at least I could find one person not judgemental.

The only thing I asked for in the relationship was mutual respect. Instead I was mocked, threatened, an assaulted.

Apparently, the "woman" fooled everyone and was a mere con artist. I entered the relationship being service-oriented.
I, along with another, removed my collar.

The desire to Serve is long gone.




iammachine -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 12:46:50 PM)

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I thought at least I could find one person not judgemental.

The only thing I asked for in the relationship was mutual respect. Instead I was mocked, threatened, an assaulted.

Apparently, the "woman" fooled everyone and was a mere con artist. I entered the relationship being service-oriented.
I, along with another, removed my collar.


You were burned. It sucks. Life goes on.

Do you want a cookie?




LadyHugs -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 1:01:12 PM)

Dear kirby104, Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
I could not help but notice that you made a statement in post #46, that you asked for mutual respect and in turn, you got mocked, threatened and assaulted.
 
Now, it has been requested by other posters and now I also ask, in what manner have you been mocked, threatened and or assaulted.  Apparently, from your own post--the authorities were not interested in the pursuit of this incident.  In legal circles, to investigate further, prosecute and take it to trial--elements of threats, assault and such must be present.  Otherwise, the legal authorities' hands are tied and helpless as well.
 
There are certain criterias that have to be met as to fulfill the premises of 'assault.'  In each state and country, it reads differently.  In Washington, DC --a mere touch, such as a finger touching you without your expressed consent is grounds for assault yet, the law goes on as to make a distinction between an accidental brush or touch, such as to excuse themselves as to get by--requiring your attention via a touch.  The real focus is the 'intent' to do harm and or injury which satisfys the Courts in DC.  Unfortunately, the law does not cover or prosecute cases of hurt feelings and the emotional jerking about.  The courts would be flooded with cases of people's hurt feelings or dignity and or wounded pride.
 
It is not an attack on you, the situation and or making light of what might have taken place.  However, there are two sides of the story and at times the story needs to be looked at more closely and elements explained.  But, I am of the belief, most here answering and or reading your story would much prefer seeing how they may assist in seeing you close the door on an unfortunate chapter and do the best to see you make a fresh start.
 
That said, please do understand--that a lot of forum readers read those posts to which is really a created 'drama' as to create a knee-jerk reaction and or create a response as to pounce on well meaning responding posters.  It is also evident, that some will post to pull one's last nerve and or the last bit of patience a person has.  Anger being an emotion, it is not often rational.  I am just hopeful that when things calm down for you--that you can see a lot of individuals are just trying to understand, be supportive and give their opinions based on what they have to work with--which is what and how you write about.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




slaveofKaos -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 1:49:08 PM)

My Master also believes that being poly means he can go out and fuck anyone he wants at anytime he wants. My understanding of poly would tell me that isnt a poly relationship at all. I dont know yet what is going to happen, but it seems a lot of people dont truly know andunderstand the defination of a polyamorus relationship.I am very glad you managed to find a relationship that wasnt abusive and one that your happy in.




bandit25 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 1:50:28 PM)




If she doesn't want it, can I have her cookie?






kc692 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/24/2007 5:05:56 PM)

It it's choccy chip, can we share?




SteelofUtah -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/25/2007 3:41:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

So, I'm a horrible storyteller. But I WOULD be there for decent people, and I would not attack unless defending myself.  As for this crap about not taking responsibility, this is the only thing that I've been doing. I thought at least I could find one person not judgemental.

The only thing I asked for in the relationship was mutual respect. Instead I was mocked, threatened, an assaulted.

Apparently, the "woman" fooled everyone and was a mere con artist. I entered the relationship being service-oriented.
I, along with another, removed my collar.

The desire to Serve is long gone.



**Takes a Deep Deep Breath**

Your story makes NO sense. This is why you are being questioned. If you were Dominant then you are in control of yourself if nothing else. If you are in control of yourself then you have NO ONE ELSE BUT YOURSELF to blame for what has happened to you.

If you were assaulted then call the Police as they can actually do something about it the MYRIAD of people on Collar Me cannot. If you are looking for someone to BE there for you then I suggest you look for someone who is willing to listen to how the Big Bad Domme took advantage of somoene who is supposed to be in CONTROL of HER OWN ACTIONS.

It sounds to me like this is a kinky game you play that allows you to put on cute costumes and I must admit you are a cute girl, but the drama is far too much baggage for me to give a damn about what you are.

I know this is coming across mean, but it isn't supposed to be. I am asking you to take a HARD look at what you have told us and ask yourself if even YOU would feel bad for YOU?

If you are going to be a Dominant and complaining about how your the victim of someone elses control over you, then all you are doing is saying things that make you sound like a liar or a spaz.

I'm done with this one now.

Adios

Steel





kirby104 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 12:17:00 AM)

Well , I am not dominate then fore I don't know all the answers nor how to spell.




apiercedkitty -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 6:04:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kirby104

Well , I am not dominate then fore I don't know all the answers nor how to spell.


Then why in the HELL does your profile list you as such?
i happen to believe that more ppl than not have been burned at some point over something in this lifestyle... hell, i've been burned NOT in this lifestyle - it happens... deal with it and move on. And the statement about having "found more 'scum' in the lifestyle" is just stupid. There are plenty of scum everywhere - it's certainly not exclusive to BDSM. Trust me, i've lived both in and out of the lifestyle and i can attest to the "scumminess" of everyone...
i'm truly sorry someone played you... i hope you find the ability to heal and move past this.
 
*edited to add... it's "DominaNT" not "dominATE"... just a pet peeve of mine.




everhope -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 6:56:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104


The lifestyle states "Safe, Sane, and Consensual"; yet it fails to protect the wounded.
there is no lifestyle bible or big book for that matter. this is a saying that some subscribe to... others to RACK.
none of  it means diddly to me. just means they read some books maybe...or are members to a few online sites.
no one can protect you from your emotional state but you and this is what you are talking about.



In my experience, the community "buries its head." I have lost trust. Am I alone?

you are if you don't friends







PonyGroom -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 7:22:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

Expecting the world to be good to you because you THINK you are a nice person, is like expecting a bull not to charge you because you are a vegetarian.



This is exactly the fallacy she fell into.  I watched it happen, so, I know. 

She expected her service to be honored, since honor was given in service. She respected the one served, but received little respect.

She thought the bull would be nice. Alas, it was a bull, and acted according to it's nature.

Tim
been charged by bulls, once upon a time... good thing the trees were thick!





LATEXBABY64 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 7:30:03 AM)

Well this thread has turned into a pack of dogs on fresh meat.  You know just do what ever.  Just do not step on my toes in process as i always tell people piss in my wheaties  and I will shit in your oats. 




PonyGroom -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 7:35:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: everhope

quote:

ORIGINAL: kirby104


The lifestyle states "Safe, Sane, and Consensual"; yet it fails to protect the wounded.
there is no lifestyle bible or big book for that matter. this is a saying that some subscribe to... others to RACK.
none of  it means diddly to me. just means they read some books maybe...or are members to a few online sites.
no one can protect you from your emotional state but you and this is what you are talking about.



In my experience, the community "buries its head." I have lost trust. Am I alone?

you are if you don't friends




No, she isn't talking about being protected from her emotional state. She knows she is responsible for her own feelings - said something similar on another page in this thread.

She wants to know if others have similar experiences in their communities.  Others in this thread understood the question.  She wonders if any of the kink communities protect their own.  She has a network of friends and that's not what she is talking about. She is trying to get a sense of understanding what it means to be "in the kink community". 

Between Kirby, Lyndsey and I we have experience in at least two dozen kink communities. Even with all that, we still think our view is parochial at best. We are curious about the experiences of others.  That is why this thread is on collarme.

Tim




laurell3 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 10:54:03 AM)

PonyGroom,
I guess I would ask what it is you think the community SHOULD do?  How do we decide who is wrong and right?  Hell there's not one of us here that has the same definitions of simple labels let alone desires for types of activities or relationships styles.  As a policing body we would surely suffer from complete inconsistency. People talk about things here everyday that I personally would find abusive, but yet they revel in it, should I shun them or their owner/dom/me/master?  You see we have no clearly defined standards, thus the mantra of don't criticise other's kinks.
The most you can ever expect is some support from others in similar situations.  Look around at the posts OP we've all been burned at one point or another from the simple of having feelings hurt to being brutally physically abused.  Plain and simple, it sucks and I'm sorry it happened to you.  I can't chase down the person that hurt you and that wouldn't help you anyway, letting it go and learning from it is the only thing that will.
good luck to you,
l




kc692 -> RE: A local “Domme” has confused polyamory with promiscuity. (10/26/2007 11:28:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kirby104

Well , I am not dominate then fore I don't know all the answers nor how to spell.


You are listed as dominant on your profile, that is why we all speak about that.,




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