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kittensmailbox -> zeitgeistmovie (10/23/2007 1:29:42 PM)

This movie is a MUST SEE!!!  Definitley worth two hours of your time.  I was shaking by the end. All the best, i would like to know what others think... feel free to write me on the other side if you so wish to...   

 
 

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html




thornhappy -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/23/2007 6:13:25 PM)

* argh *

If you don't want to spend the time, read the review on BoingBoing:

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.html

thornhappy




kittensmailbox -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/23/2007 7:08:18 PM)

i really enjoyed the movie




subrob1967 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/23/2007 7:19:20 PM)

I still wanna know how the hell this administration planned and pulled off this conspiracy in 8 months, but couldn't plant WMD's in Iraq in the 2 years before attacking.

This admin couldn't even cover up Abu Graib, let alone a conspiracy plot of this magnitude.

It's you conspiracy theorists that need to wake up.




Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/23/2007 9:59:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

This movie is a MUST SEE!!!  Definitley worth two hours of your time.  I was shaking by the end. All the best, i would like to know what others think... feel free to write me on the other side if you so wish to...   

 
 

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html



That is an excellent video frankly. 

Dont let them get to you Kitten people have come a long way in investigating this as getting info from a government that declares everything a national secret puts up a lot of road blocks to getting anything done.  Reviews like that are just opinion and really short change fine detail that documentary went into.

I have run through my little collection and picked out a few of my favorites for you that since you have hi speed you will be able to appreciate as you can see the bombs bursting in air as well as hear senators and educators on the subjects.

Anyway these are good ones for your collection, show them to your friends :)


This is a private video shot of wtc 2 where you can see explosions (14) if you watch it as several different speeds as i have but 6 can be seen by a blind man.   Just run it full screen and when you see the smoky part look at the corner of the building nearest you and about 1/2 way to the top you can 2 of them go off with a puff of cement dust
http://video.google.com/videolay?docid=-5403788666042410389&hl=en

Here are the explosions exactly as the firemen said it happened.  Keep in mind they are nearly 1/4 mile above ground level and notice how perfectly distinct they are compared to the railroad train sound of the falling building.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5178346277662225049



Nightly news you can trust!

Invincible 757 flies right on through one side and out the other of the wtc2 and without even a scratch on fox and abc news LOL!

Invincible 757 original fox video -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6301490959206864579

Second video this one from ABC different angle plane is silver going in and commentator says "like a bad special effect" 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8701046051683958286

Invincible 757 still mysterious black out of focus blurry black shadow enters wtc2 -
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtc2originalfootage2.jpg

Invincible 757 still exiting wtc 2 in perfect focus, 30% larger so it ate its wheaties on the way through and perfectly unscathed from the collision: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtc2originalfootage3.jpg



Aluminum planes always fly through steel and concrete buildings.  Right?



We can trust the news media tho right?



Another private video - Ooops no Hole in the other side, look about 3/4 of the way through it roughly to see the zoom in and no hole.

Here is the still:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/NopeNoHoleHere009.jpg


Here is a pic of building 6 which really did have raging fires and it stood up just fine!
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtc6-hole.jpg
No one bothers to ask why these did not fall and they have been completely gutted from fire!


Then everyones favorite wtc 7

It turns out that all the firemen were out of the building by roughly 11:30, it was demolished at roughly 5:20.

Silverstein lied and said pull it was referring to getting the men out who were out well over over 6 hours prior.  (of course a lot of suckers fell for the lie)  So here is the story:

WTC 7: Silverstein's "Pull It" Explanation Examined
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein_pullit.html


Danny Jowenko Controlled demolitions Expert with over 20 years experienced examined the building prints and damage seen video of fires in wtc 7 and said this was definitely a hired job.  Jeff from kill town calls Danny to confirm that he is sticking to what he said.  Danny also explains why the american demolitions companies all lied about it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4731246656734761470


Here is the security director who was in building 7 when a bomb went off before the towers were demolishied. He and his friend were rescued before the building was demolished,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6837877109446258151


Senator Mark Dayton (MN) accuses the FAA and NORAD of Lying, the 911 commision who knew it and did nothing. 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4939022370662369150

Senator Mckinney Speaks out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8526790279017094192

Eyewitness & Media Accounts Of Bombs At The WTC on 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7094370627958457222

The OEM Issued a WTC Collapse Warning
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/oem_wtc.html

Who Told Giuliani the WTC was Going to Collapse on 9/11?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html

911 Secrets
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871


There are 2 ways to get to the bottom of what happened to those towers:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/PoliticalvsScientificmethod.jpg








Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/23/2007 10:25:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I still wanna know how the hell this administration planned and pulled off this conspiracy in 8 months, but couldn't plant WMD's in Iraq in the 2 years before attacking.

This admin couldn't even cover up Abu Graib, let alone a conspiracy plot of this magnitude.

It's you conspiracy theorists that need to wake up.


Thats sort of the wrong approach.  You really have to look at it like an investigator and an investigator never goes in with the approach of peconception.   One must go in and simply look for clues and where those clues lead a person and since no investigation has been done yet no one can really say it was "this administration" as you put it.

Next you seem to be misjudging what the so called CT's are trying to get done here.

Like i explained to a couple people on another board you have to first look at the empircal evidence. (we have plenty)

Next you have to be able to accept in your mind whatever you find no matter how much it goes against your grain. (or not)

First you need hispeed as it never fails to amaze me how many people try and discuss this without even looking at the evidence.  If you do not you cannot see what is being talked about.

Then you have to simply look at the imperical evidence.

In wtc 2 we have bombs going off that are seriously easy to see and amazingly the guy who posted his video didnt even notice it!!  He noticed the one in the north tower.

Next the energy does not add up.

Next silverstein admitted they blew wtc 7 up.

Next where is the 100 tons of aircraft from the pentagon?

Next where is the 100 tons of flt 93?

planes dont vaporize.

Next the flight recorder showed that flt 77 never went lower than 279 ft.

That is all empirical evidence that we do not have to depend on anay witnesses testimonies to get, all we need are pictures for the most part.

The reason this is important is that the media as seen above faked the videos so we cannot belive them.

We dont want to blindly trust any testimony unless we absolutely have to, to elimate any error there.

So when gathering empircal evidence we need only concentrate on what we can see with our own 2 eyes to determine if there is wrong doing since we cannot trrust anyone.

It starts there not as I have said on another board with the parlor games of "who done it".

So i wont even get into norad and faa and everyone else who has massive failures on that day.

Next neither the fema, asce, nist, or 911 omission commission reports reflect any of these issues and do not even consider explosives in any of their reports.

Now that we have identified that there in fact was something rotten going on and have a reson to have a full independent investigation where by we can discover what role this administration played in the event.

It has to start at the bottom and work up.  








popeye1250 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 12:12:41 AM)

I have to agree, Bush is one DUMB m.....f..... .




subrob1967 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 5:17:53 AM)

I have hi-speed, and I have watched and read your "evidence". I have also watched and read "evidence" debunking your "evidence".

I really want to know how the fuck this inept administration has all the sudden become so brilliant, and competent enough that they could cover up an event of this maganitude?

If they could cover this up, why couldn't they plant wmd's in Iraq?

How can they cover up the WTC atrocity, but can't stop former Generals from speaking out against Iraq, wouldn't they let them in on your little secret?

How did they pull this off in the first 8 months in office, but fuck up every other policy they implimented since?

Why hasn't a legitimate co-conspirator come forward, one with real proof?




Arpig -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 7:34:36 AM)

Aaaaargggggg!!!! Not again!




kittensmailbox -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 7:43:18 AM)

Well i do thank everyone for telling me what they think... i myself did find the whole thing interesting, not that i agreed with it all, but interesting non the less...




mnottertail -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 7:54:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Aaaaargggggg!!!! Not again!


It's like deja vu all over again.
Yogi Berra




Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:03:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I have hi-speed, and I have watched and read your "evidence". I have also watched and read "evidence" debunking your "evidence".

I really want to know how the fuck this inept administration has all the sudden become so brilliant, and competent enough that they could cover up an event of this maganitude?

If they could cover this up, why couldn't they plant wmd's in Iraq?

How can they cover up the WTC atrocity, but can't stop former Generals from speaking out against Iraq, wouldn't they let them in on your little secret?

How did they pull this off in the first 8 months in office, but fuck up every other policy they implimented since?

Why hasn't a legitimate co-conspirator come forward, one with real proof?



Real proof has been given to us many times.

The head of the commission caught NORAD and the FAA single handedly in lies but no one prosecuted them.

What possible reason would any "co-conspirator" raise their hand and announce they blew up the wtc?

If you cheated on your taxes would you jump up raise your hand and say hey irs come and get me i admit it!!

The links I have provided have never been debunked, (within reason), by anyone on any board i am on or on any site unless you want to believe bombs arent bombs, the laws of physics can be defied, and planes simply evaporate into thin air.

Usually in the course of a debate people come to terms with that.

Sometimes people expect miracles from alternative theory people as if we are supposed to have all the answers before a litgitimate investigation is done as if we are expected to be gods of some sort and have every possible question someone could ask answered when all we want is a ligitimate independent investigation.

The links that I provided show that the media falsified the event, and I forgot to put up the ones where both cnn and the bbc announced the demolition of wtc7 claiming the building had already fallen when you can see it the background.  Its nearly a comedy show because they point to standing right there on film and say it collapsed 15 minutes before it actually and they in both cases quick cut to commercial.   If it wasnt so sad it would be hilarious.

So we have physics being defied in many instances.

Norad and the faa caught in lies by the commission

Senators that believe and argue for an investigation.

Silverstein caught in a lie, the state supporting his lie.

Videos that is non news media videos that corroborate the firemens stories and much of the news media that bombs were used.

Private videos that show actually bombs exploding.

FEMA, NIST, ASCE, (government investigators), none of them even mention bombs or any testing to see if bombs were used.

There are several more people who have been caught in lies, which is how most conspiracies come to the surface.

Personally i stick with what is called empirical evidence and that is what I do not need anyones testimony to figure out as it is clear no one can be trusted.

The reason you dont have the proof you want is that the truth you want is there but it has simply been ignored as "coincidences", "oversights", "failure to perform", "was looking in the other direction at the time" all sells quite easily to the general public who are much to busy keeping up with inflation to really sit down and police the government.







Owner59 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:10:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Aaaaargggggg!!!! Not again!


No ,no...

It`s good to be reminded that there really are conspiracy nuts/kooks out there.Many more than one would like to admit.

Discussing the phenomenon(conspiracy theorists), helps keep the nuts in the basement,where they belong...




Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:25:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Aaaaargggggg!!!! Not again!


No ,no...

It`s good to be reminded that there really are conspiracy nuts/kooks out there.Many more than one would like to admit.

Discussing the phenomenon(conspiracy theorists), helps keep the nuts in the basement,where they belong...



Yes again as a result of many "rational" discussions on the subject on other boards most have come to the conclusions that there are 2 kinds of conspiracy kooks.

Those who believe that a rag tag bunch of cave men can take over the faa, norad, fema, nist, the and the news media, the miulti billion dollar us defense system and those who believe in aliens

VS

those people who claim that the conspiracy theory of a bunch rag tag men in a cave accomplishing all that in one day is nearly laughable.

So the people on my side of the fence agree that it does show us that conspiracy kooks exist and at least should be kept out of government!  LOL




Owner59 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:26:38 AM)

 



<chuckle,snicker,....chuckle,snicker>










Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:28:18 AM)

Tag ur it!  LMAO!

we both posted to fast LOL




Owner59 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:36:48 AM)

back to the basement!....




Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:47:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

back to the basement!....


Ok see ya when you come back up!




mnottertail -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:52:17 AM)

Let's not be building no pipe bombs down there, boys.

Ron




Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 9:00:18 AM)



you know what concerns me is all this DU that is being spread around.  Not to mention they are trying to find the limitations of the now fully operation haarp toy. 

We have nothing to fear but ourselves.




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