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LotusSong -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 11:28:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I still wanna know how the hell this administration planned and pulled off this conspiracy in 8 months, but couldn't plant WMD's in Iraq in the 2 years before attacking.

This admin couldn't even cover up Abu Graib, let alone a conspiracy plot of this magnitude.

It's you conspiracy theorists that need to wake up.


Tis a shame that the ony thing Bush HAD at 20 that he doesn't have now is... a way to avoid a war.



subrob1967 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 4:59:54 PM)

So your solid evidence and physics all come from either whatreallyhappened.com or google video...

Here's my rebuttal.
http://www.debunking911.com/

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

http://debunking-bbc.blogspot.com/2007/02/debunking-bbcs-9-11-conspiracy-files.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunking_9/11_Myths

In the immortal words of Montgomery Scott, "Ye canna change the laws of fizicks" And two planes crashing into the WTC didn't change any laws of physics.



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 5:34:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

So your solid evidence and physics all come from either whatreallyhappened.com or google video...

Here's my rebuttal.
http://www.debunking911.com/

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

http://debunking-bbc.blogspot.com/2007/02/debunking-bbcs-9-11-conspiracy-files.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunking_9/11_Myths

In the immortal words of Montgomery Scott, "Ye canna change the laws of fizicks" And two planes crashing into the WTC didn't change any laws of physics.


well if you have something specific applies to the evidence I have provided i will go over it.

That one debunk site you just showed me another guy threw in my face a while back and it has some supposed phd from the uk that they claim did a complete fizickz analysis proving how the "fire" brought down wtc and when we researched it, it was totally fraudulent and no paper was ever written yet your debunk site brags how they just debunked the 911 researchers.    PM frankly has been a laughing stock for a long time with those who have kept up with the cureent research being done.  Not to mention the greater majority of them are staff writers and also have had nice kick backs with contracts grants and job promotions from the governemnt.

So who ya gonna trust?  i do not trust anybody so I list only the minimum needed to prove a conspiracy has taken place.

Next I no longer get into the speculative who done it "parlor games" with people and frankly do not debate other peoples theories just the ones I supplied here which cover strictly the empirical evidence as i have provided.

The reason why is that to defeat it one has to defy fizzies or believe planes evaporate into thin air.

Well google video is a great place for proplr to put up their private videos for public review you know, and its amazing what you see in the private videos that cannot be seen in the news media videos.








luckydog1 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 5:45:18 PM)

I don't have time for this again.  All of your physical evidence has been debunked real.  Every single bit.  There is no discrepency in the energy, because you are lying that the enitre building was pulverized.  Absolutly no one says a fire took down the buldings, the impact + fire did.  It goes on and on.  Subrob, will you do the honors this time?



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 6:50:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

I don't have time for this again.  All of your physical evidence has been debunked real.  Every single bit.  There is no discrepency in the energy, because you are lying that the enitre building was pulverized.  Absolutly no one says a fire took down the buldings, the impact + fire did.  It goes on and on.  Subrob, will you do the honors this time?


Not from you it hasnt!  LOL  All you did was run the debate around in circles.

Of what falsley accusing people of lying like you do?   Accuse people of lying for your mistakes as can be seen here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1331272/mpage_10/tm.htm

and here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1331272/mpage_11/tm.htm

Now you are accusing me of " lying that the enitre building was pulverized" without a FULL QUOTE?   I do not recall ever saying such a thing on any board and it sounds like you may be the one lying like you did with pull it.

Yes sub rob anyone but lucky-go-round LOL








luckydog1 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 6:56:57 PM)

Heck real I beat your false claims so bad you refuse to even admit you mad them, for example our conversation on Proffessor Judith Millers "work".  So what violations of Physics are you pointing out now?



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 7:18:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Heck real I beat your false claims so bad you refuse to even admit you mad them, for example our conversation on Proffessor Judith Millers "work".  So what violations of Physics are you pointing out now?


none that you are qualified to discuss frankly.  I am not willing to discuss this topic with you as you wasted enough of my time playing circle jerk.  

Maybe if you learned how to comprehend what you read and you did not argue against your own straw men and slip in your bait and switch bullshit I might entertain it.

So until you can show me that you passed grammar 101 go find someone else to jerk around.





luckydog1 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 7:51:17 PM)

So you still do not know waht a strawman argument is....

Of course you are afraid to discuss this topic.

And honestly for you to criticise anyones grammar is ridiculous.



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:13:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

So you still do not know waht a strawman argument is....

Of course you are afraid to discuss this topic.

And honestly for you to criticise anyones grammar is ridiculous.


PLONK!




luckydog1 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:16:13 PM)

and yet again you retreat to gibberish....



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:22:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

and yet again you retreat to gibberish....


Lucky I dont care how much you beg I told you I am not going to waste my time playing lucky-go-round with you!

PLONK!



luckydog1 -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 8:52:37 PM)

So 3 posts of nonsense instead of stating one of the violations of physics that you claim exist in the 911 collapse event. 

Lucky-Go-Round, is that what you call it when asked a direct question, that you can't answer and hold your assertions?  When shut in a box by facts and logic, and you have to resort to gibberish, to have anything at all to say, showing you have completely conceded the argument; your position demolished; you have gone on the "Lucky-Go-Round".

I rather like that, please continue to use it



Marc2b -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 9:39:59 PM)

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Why hasn't a legitimate co-conspirator come forward, one with real proof?


People are terrible at keeping secrets.  Having a secret gives you a sense of power over others but it is no fun (no power) if at least one person doesn't know your secret.  So people blab.  It is just our nature.  The more people that are in on a secret the more likely that someone will flap their lips.  This leads us to what I like to call Marc2b's Conspiracy Theory Axiom - the more people alleged to be involved in a conspiracy, the less likely that the conspiracy actually exists.
 
So, Real One, just how bad did Bill Maher rough you up anyway?  [:D]



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 10:48:15 PM)



Apparently you are not aware that several people have talked. 

I have posted lots of witness testimony firemen, emt's, news reporters, the general public all claiming bombs blew it all to hell.  I have shown you video of the bombs blowing it all to hell.

Norad was caught in lies by the omission commission and it was ignored.

Hundreds if not thousands of people have talked. 

Thats not the problem, the problem is that no one is listening. 

It appears that you arent listening either.

Suffice to say we are making our bed.  Sleep well...




Alumbrado -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 10:52:18 PM)

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So, Real One, just how bad did Bill Maher rough you up anyway?




Love it!  [sm=biggrin.gif]



Real0ne -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/24/2007 11:53:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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So, Real One, just how bad did Bill Maher rough you up anyway?




Love it!  [sm=biggrin.gif]


that was where the hecklers were in the crowd?

Lots of people are pissed off, and i do mean down right pissed off about building 7, because 7 is the archilles heel because you do not have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out.

That and no one has yet to open the can of worms about building 5 and 6 yet which our government didnt even bother to look at at all.

From what I hear going around on a few campuses I would not be surprised to see a lot more of this sort of thing.

People are pissed and getting educated quite quickly about demolition now that the "shock and awe" phase of over and the we have been lied to phase is taking over.









Marc2b -> RE: zeitgeistmovie (10/25/2007 6:55:00 AM)

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Apparently you are not aware that several people have talked. 


I'm refering to people actually involved in the so called conspiracy.  When someone comes forth and says, "I was the guy who rigged the explosives," and offers concrete proof, then I'll listen.  Until then I'll go with the South Park boys on this one.  Who destroyed the World Trade Center?  A bunch of pissed off Muslims!

As for the U.S. government's involvement, it appears to confine itself only to incompetence and negligence.  The signs of the impending attack were all there but the left hand of government didn't know what the right side was doing.  Very few people put the pieces together and they weren't listened to.



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