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laurell3 -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 3:22:00 AM)

well of course I'm right [8D] and also a professional who's obviously a wacko!



MissMagnolia -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 3:24:42 AM)

I never doubted it for a minute!!![sm=biggrin.gif][sm=lol.gif]



laurell3 -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 3:25:45 AM)

awww you love crazy me and you know it MissM.



MissMagnolia -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 3:28:57 AM)

Of course you sexy, insane little person, I loves ya, whatever you are, you know that.[sm=shake.gif][sm=kiss.gif][sm=flowers.gif]



laurell3 -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 3:33:17 AM)

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batshalom -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 5:36:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

> ...and with an Elizabethan flourish, He bows and bids her adeau.
>
> I call ya'll kitten/cats



Oh puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke. What a putz.



Slavecounselor -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 5:36:42 AM)

In spite all of above insanity, I agree that incompetent and abusive therapists do exist. Which makes the message you received even less credible.




wisteriaV -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 7:09:51 AM)

[:D]As the saying goes it takes one to know one..smiles the professional wackos have degrees to prove we are nuts lol[:D] Then again we are special because we have keys lol[:D][:D]



Elegant -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 10:19:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: masterdelirious
First, no real psychologist would dare to draw a diagnostic conclusion (any conclusion and certainly not that of BPD) bases on so little information. This would require an extensive assessment procedure and a lot of individual contact.
....................


This is so true and, in fact, many medical personnel (psychologists, counselors etc) are not qualified to diagnose or treat BPD patients. Having a layperson make a disgnosis is ridiculous. In addition, some of these professionals will not treat BPD patients because of the manipulative instincts of people with BPD.


quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdelirious
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The usefulness of a BPD diagnosis, because it can have its use, is mainly with a focus on treatment. Helping to understand which issues determine a clients behaviour.


Therapists AND those in close relationsip with the BPD patient must recognize boundry violations as trust, rejection and safety are vital to people with BPD. Change the rules too quickly and the foundation crumbles.



Unfortunatly, BPD became a popular self-diagnosis when it was publicised that Princess Di was BPD. Suddenly half the world seemed to attach themselves to this diagnosis-of-the-day.



colouredin -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 11:55:37 AM)

To be honest i get a lot of mails from Doms who "Understand me" and know what "i need" after writing a few words on a profile. Its increadably patronising and a pile of crap on no better than copy and pasted erotic stories. I think there is an attitude that some Dom/mes have not that they are simply Dominant but that they are superiour.


Also to the comment about BPD and what it means. BDP is a fairly common mental illness and as with any mental illness it has varying degrees. It can manifest itself in a way that seems like a Bipolar disorder. Problem is we attach a huge stigma to mental illness. I was watching a program recently where the guy said "everyone has experianced physical illness in the past, and i expect everyone has experianced mental illness too we just dont like to talk about it" We assume that everyone who suffers must be the most extreme form and therefore dangerous. In actual fact mental illness can make you more aware of how you respond to things. Problem when defining mental illness is defining normality. If we sit and speculate about illnesses that unless we have experianced we cant understand then there is no wonder that it is stigmatised.

I know the post isnt really about that but i just wanted to say it



mnottertail -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 12:00:48 PM)

Still waking up in the mornings with shaking hands
And I'm trying to find a girl who understands me
But except in dreams you're never really free
Don't the sun look angry at me

I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian Hotel
I was listening to the air conditioner hum
It went mmmmmm..
........................... Look
away..........................................
(Look away down Gower Avenue, Look away....)

from a Warren Zevon song, you made me think of it.

Ron



grlneedstolearn -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 12:02:01 PM)

i don't believe in a Dom or Domme hitting out of anger in anyway. My Dom will not even come over if he's upset or angry with something, which i totally respect him for that. It shows he can step away from the situation until it eases up.



laurell3 -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 1:54:28 PM)

Unfortunately people are often lumped into a category of having borderline personality disorder when no other diagnosis fits.  BPD has become similar to what ADHD used to be for kids until the backlash came about of professionals saying stop labeling every damn person you see, sometimes we just don't know.



Elegant -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 1:58:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

Also to the comment about BPD and what it means. BDP is a fairly common mental illness and as with any mental illness it has varying degrees.




Just an FYI. Very recent ...this month:


One in fifty adults suffer from this condition.

Journal of Psychiatric & Mental Health Nursing, Vol. 14, No. 7. (October 2007), pp. 670-678.



colouredin -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 1:58:23 PM)

I think your probably right, everyone has to be defined, there are a million and one catagories for a million and one differant things, I mean just look at this site, sub/bottom/bedroom bottom/swith/Dom/Master/Top etc etc etc same is true with mental illness. Its far more common though to be diagnosed with depression than something like BDP becuase they are so interlinked, most mental illnesses are. and BDP is often considered a fairly mild disorder in comparison to things like scitzophrenia (sorry totally wrong spelling)

Yeah i didnt know the stats elegant but its a hell of a lot. I do worry about figures like that because who can really tell we dont have a clue about why the mind works the way it does.



colouredin -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 2:04:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Still waking up in the mornings with shaking hands
And I'm trying to find a girl who understands me
But except in dreams you're never really free
Don't the sun look angry at me

I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian Hotel
I was listening to the air conditioner hum
It went mmmmmm..
........................... Look
away..........................................
(Look away down Gower Avenue, Look away....)

from a Warren Zevon song, you made me think of it.

Ron


I dunno if that was to me?? if so dunno why you were reminded, but the lyrics are very pretty.



Elegant -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 2:10:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

Yeah i didnt know the stats elegant but its a hell of a lot. I do worry about figures like that because who can really tell we dont have a clue about why the mind works the way it does.



Last I knew the guestimated stats were 2% of the population but this new study came up in my email this week.

(btw....I was disgnosed BPD 10 years ago and it took many months before my therapist determined that.)



colouredin -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 2:48:52 PM)

Ive been diagnosed with many differant vairiations of things, from being depressed to being manic depressive BDP and also been told im perfectly 'normal' and at the end of the day i decided who gives a toss. I have found as i grow older i can spot when differant phases come along and am open about having them in my life. If people decide that they cant cope with it thats totally understandable (i once dated a guy with quite severe MD and it was heavy going) Its part of myself and i still function perfectly well as a human being. People have in the past told me i shouldnt be involved in BDSM because i dont have the capacity to consent or whatever well thats crap. to quote Miss Bassy "i am what i am and what i am needs no excuses". If people dont want to involve themselves with me they dont have to. 



Gwynvyd -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 3:35:47 PM)

BPD is very very hard to diagnose.. how some dimestore wanna be analist ( mis-spelled on purpose.. ) of a Dom could figure that out from a totaly normal, and lovely profile I havent a clue. I hate hate hate when Dumbunats assume they instantly know what a submissive or slave needs or even wants by simply reading a profile.. or even talking to them for a short while. Last I checked very few folks are mind readers or empaths.. and most of these jackasses surely arent.

I agree that BPD has been the new slap a label on the person because we have no bloody clue fix it cure all in the Mental Health community. ( just as some one pointed out all kids now have ADHD or ADD that act like kids.. )

Having studied BPD ( My girl has it.. but is well fucntioning with it.. ) it has some pretty clear cut signs. They do fit in with others.. but when all combined it does form a defined picture.

It takes one heck of a very good professional to get to the bottom of if you are, or are not a person with BPD because it does present like so much else.

Always get a second opinon if you are seeing a professional.. and if they did not take a good long while to reach that conclusion..

if any mental conclusion is reached by some dumbass online.. just consider the source.. hope they take thier meds.. and Iggy them.

Gwyn



RedheadGirlNY -> RE: Borderline personality disorder (10/24/2007 7:37:45 PM)

BPD isn't something to bandy about haphazardly.  It's ugly, nasty and the vast majority of the legitimate mental health community won't even consent to attempt treatment of those who have BPD.

(The Wikipedia entry gives some good initial starting points for researching BPD.  It's a good start, but remember: Wikipedia is hardly a primary resource.  I know most people know this, but it bears repeating.)

I have a sibling who is BPD and who has demonstrated all of those behaviors at one time or another.  On the advice of a mental health expert, all contact was cut off from the sibling some eight years ago.  Sad, but life improved immensely for those of us who disengaged from the person. 

BPD, like any clinical disorder, isn't something that non-professionals should be "diagnosing."

(Enough preaching, back to your regular kink)

Oh, and if you wouldn't mind, OP, indulge in an Aurelio's sausage and mushroom pizza (well-done) and let me know how it was?  I live vicariously through folks in my hometown where pizza is concerned :)

Red



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