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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:40:18 AM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		I wonder how long it would take for a person to learn to just disregard what they are hearing and rely on what they are feeling.

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:41:32 AM   
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lol nice try Rrafe....it seems the practicalities are winning out over the concept you were trying to introduce.


Oh well,just some people trying to show us thier lack of imagination.  At least the slaves with some real time experience seem to get it.

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:43:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		IMHE, if you keep up the right pace, she doesn't have time to think - and the point is to force her to let go of her thoughts, of trying to predict and anticipate and make sense of, and drive her into subspace, into a writhing, squirming, sweating, shaking, shuddering body of slave flesh.

Don't forget the after-care.


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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:46:10 AM   
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lol nice try Rrafe....it seems the practicalities are winning out over the concept you were trying to introduce.


Oh well,just some people trying to show us thier lack of imagination.  At least the slaves with some real time experience seem to get it.


Well the concept of mental bondage isn't new to them.  Regardless of whether the garment/glue thing works, it does because he said so, it's that simple.

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:47:41 AM   
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IMHE, if you keep up the right pace, she doesn't have time to think - and the point is to force her to let go of her thoughts, of trying to predict and anticipate and make sense of, and drive her into subspace, into a writhing, squirming, sweating, shaking, shuddering body of slave flesh.

Don't forget the after-care.



Yeah it's an interesting concept for sure. I think it would take some pretty heavy duty physical stimulation for my mind to stop processing though, but I'm tricky like that.
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:51:47 AM   
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And littered wood of broken days
disregard for toil shown
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 2:55:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		of course...but having never been in the situation I don't really know, just suppose......but it's certainly intriguing.
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 3:19:19 AM   
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 3:52:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm - i have a problem urinating in front of someone - i have no problem with them doing it etc but i have a mental block in this area...so sitting me on a toilet and standing in front of me would probably get the same reaction as gluing my pants on and staying in the room...however, i will answer as though pants were glued...i would first try to figure out in my mind what he was trying to achieve, as i started to need to go i would try annoy him by asking constant questions about what he was thinking/what he wanted to achieve etc - which i assume would be ignored - but i can be very annoying when i try so he would have to put up with a constant stream of chatter and questions and thoughts. i would then get annoyed that he was ignoring me and go back to figuring him out myself - each conclusion would be shared and questioned with him. When i started to become desperate - which would be sooner rather than later as when you know you cannot pee you instantly need to - i would try to focus elsewhere and take my mind off it. Eventually i would beg, plead, cry...promise anything that would get me released...if the object of the exercise was to get me to urinate on myself in front of him when i realised that he was going to go that far i would accept it and concentrate my efforts on trying to relieve myself in front of him...and i would probably be proud of myself for having achieved it. But would still need a seriously long shower.


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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 3:54:26 AM   
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IMHE, if you keep up the right pace, she doesn't have time to think - and the point is to force her to let go of her thoughts, of trying to predict and anticipate and make sense of, and drive her into subspace, into a writhing, squirming, sweating, shaking, shuddering body of slave flesh.

Don't forget the after-care.



Subspace?  For some of is, all it takes to get there is a single word, from a specific voice.  Good thing he's careful how he uses that...
 
Aftercare?  ML says that's one of the best parts.  I say ML is a genius, LOL.
 
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:00:37 AM   
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Oooohhh, what a classic!

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:02:59 AM   
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IMHE, if you keep up the right pace, she doesn't have time to think - and the point is to force her to let go of her thoughts, of trying to predict and anticipate and make sense of, and drive her into subspace, into a writhing, squirming, sweating, shaking, shuddering body of slave flesh.

Don't forget the after-care.



Yeah it's an interesting concept for sure. I think it would take some pretty heavy duty physical stimulation for my mind to stop processing though, (initially, it probably would, but don't underestimate stimulation beyond the pysical)but I'm tricky like that.
l


Individual inclination of the person to learn themself and satisfy their partner can produce the incentives necessary to train the mind to respond to specific situations, sounds, and even a person in ways it wouldn't yeild any other time, to any other voice.  It is tricky, and it does, like anything, have its own inherent risks and benfits.  For me, the trickiest part was self-programming in the "quick release" codes, and keeping those fresh.  Interestingly, all of this can be done in such a way as to be reversible, but it isn't something I found easy, or quick.  In my own experience, there isn't any pat little formula, either.  Endeavors such as this are highly individualized.  JMNSHO
 
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:04:36 AM   
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Part of the art of Domming is to stay one step ahead. Takes an active and creative mind to do that. Also takes a sub with the same. Keeps everyone on thier toes.


Toes, knees, back......
 
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:18:46 AM   
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One I'm working on at the moment, and which you are of course welcome to try yourself:

(I love sensory deprivation)

The prep:

Set up TWO microphones in the position that the submissive's ears will occupy once she is secured,
Ok i'm confused. Why do the microphones have to be by where her ears will be? You speak into microphones, sound doesn't come out of them.

The mind fuck:

Submissive is carefully restrained as to your tastes and  the position you refer and effectively blindfolded, a set of headphones place over her ears and fastened in place (head harness works well for this). Set up your microphones again, this time as close to her head as possible but out of the way
Is the sound coming through the head phones or the microphones? Why do you need the microphones if the sound is through the headphones? Im well confused.
 
The constant feed of misinformation will destroy her ability to anticipate and find some sort of frame of reference, while at the same time the clarity of the audio will cause her sensory deprived mind to focus on it.
If this is coming through the headphones then it wouldnt work for me as i would be able to shut the sounds off i was hearing.
If its through the microphones (which i cant see how that would work) then having the head phones on will muffle the sounds you're wanting her to hear and also she'll be able to hear you moving around and probably differentiate between which is the real sound and the recorded.
Either way probably wouldn't work for me.




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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:27:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I assumed SixFootMaster meant speakers rather than microphones - so whenever he said microphones i inserted speakers rather than point it out or question it. However he is usually accurate in his descriptions so perhaps i am wrong and if i am i would like to ask him to explain further.

i think that headphones combined with speakers would work as your mind would hear both and your ears will naturally try to switch between both to focus on one - eventually it would be impossible to determine what was coming in on headphones and what was coming in over the speakers. God i hate that - when your ears switch between two sounds - really wrecks my head!!!

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:35:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope - microphones. We're creating a set of positional audio tracks, pre-recording them using the microphones. Afterwards, the use of the microphones serves to record and mix the live audio during the session with those pre-recorded tracks making them essentially indistinguishable. In the session, the headphones act as speakers for both sets of audio. She cannot hear anything but the combination of live audio and pre-recorded tracks fed through the headphones.


< Message edited by SixFootMaster -- 10/29/2007 4:37:48 AM >

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:37:42 AM   
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Nope - microphones. We're creating a set of positional audio tracks, pre-recording them using the microphones. Afterwards, the use of the microphones serves to record and mix the live audio during the session with those pre-recorded tracks making them essentially indistinguishable. In the session, the headphones act as speakers for both sets of audio.



You are so evil!!!  

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 4:38:29 AM   
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How-so oft fresh injurious deed
Doth turn Janus' petulant gaze
'pon the rocks and storm rift sea
And littered wood of broken days
disregard for toil shown
no ground broken, no seed sewn.

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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 5:23:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

IMHE, if you keep up the right pace, she doesn't have time to think - and the point is to force her to let go of her thoughts, of trying to predict and anticipate and make sense of, and drive her into subspace, into a writhing, squirming, sweating, shaking, shuddering body of slave flesh.

Don't forget the after-care.



Yeah it's an interesting concept for sure. I think it would take some pretty heavy duty physical stimulation for my mind to stop processing though, (initially, it probably would, but don't underestimate stimulation beyond the pysical)but I'm tricky like that.
l


Individual inclination of the person to learn themself and satisfy their partner can produce the incentives necessary to train the mind to respond to specific situations, sounds, and even a person in ways it wouldn't yeild any other time, to any other voice.  It is tricky, and it does, like anything, have its own inherent risks and benfits.  For me, the trickiest part was self-programming in the "quick release" codes, and keeping those fresh.  Interestingly, all of this can be done in such a way as to be reversible, but it isn't something I found easy, or quick.  In my own experience, there isn't any pat little formula, either.  Endeavors such as this are highly individualized.  JMNSHO
 
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I suppose the depth of the relationship might make a difference, however, I know myself fairly well...turning off my mind isn't all that easy to do and it really has nothing to do with wanting to please my partner or not, it's just how I'm wired.
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RE: Mind fuck reaction. - 10/29/2007 5:30:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi, Laurell -
 
It is indeed more difficult for some of us to turn out minds off than for others.  Also, it was not my intention to insinuate that simply wishing to be pleasing would make it so, and I apologize if that is how it sounded.
 
Just a suggestion, but if you are sufficiently interested you might consider trying to find some info, on or offline, on what Shaolin monks sometimes refer to as "taming the monkey mind".
 
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