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RRafe -> Energy people (10/30/2007 3:28:13 PM)

Over time, I have come to realize just what it is that drew me into bdsm.

Let me clue you in, as to where my nick name comes from. SG1 fans probably already know what "the Rafe" are. An alien race in the series-that are life force vampires. I chose it for it's aptness to how I am wired. I'm strongly attuned to energies and sensitivity in perception.

Those of you who have read some of my rather extreme erotica, may have wondered " Why is this fellow so evil in his methodology?" I'm actually pretty laid back and benign overall.

Everything I do is for one purpose-to increase the intensity of energy output. To awaken-to enliven-to sharpen a moment into painfully clear visions. I'm sure that I am far from alone in seeking my intimacy-my feeding-in this manner. Because these same energies are circular-they flow back and forth.

And one of the special things we do in D/s-or bdsm...with people we are attuned to-is to establish conduits. Which may well explain the empty feelings we have after a break up. The feeling of void spaces within.......the conduit is broken.

Is your intimacy based on your energy?



Prinsexx -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 3:38:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

Is your intimacy based on your energy?


Yes totally

I am a twin and have a conjoined ego....nothing that pertains to singular ego pertains to me...I am the submissive half looking for the dominant energy........ldr's, psycho bdsm, mental bondage, electric magnetic abdominals.....gravitational field theory, string and big bang, quantuum psychology.....key me in......

edt to say also a receiver rather than a transmitter but that reflects my role
real pain brings me down a notch or two or three
some poltegeist activity around me at certain times of month and astrological alignments...this last Full Moon in Taurus sure was a Quickening.....



Tigrita -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 3:42:12 PM)

Looking forward to reading this thread.  I admit I'm torn between 'aw jeeze, how hokey', and a side of me that totally respects energy flow, positive and negative, dynamic equilibrium...  both in terms of the physics that drives the universe, and human or 'spiritual' energies. 

Anyway, I totally thrive on the dynamic energy of the elements, but it is incredibly hard to find a person and context to get that spiritual of a feeling from, so much intimacy, it takes so much time and depth of understanding to get there, so I don't share that in all my kinky or vanilla interactions, but I can in either context, and it brings it to a whole different level, though I never really thought of it quite that way before. 

This weekend I was wondering how I could be so paralyzed, shaking, leaden, numb, taking hours to recover, after a session that was not particularly physically exerting or prolonged, or even involving pain play.  Mental and emotional energy transfer certainly explain it romantically, but the scientist in me also reallizes the huge role of the chemistry of the nervous system; depletion of neurotransmitters on the pre-synaptic side, and saturation on the postsynaptic side of all kinds of conflicting pathways...  But romantic explainations have value too, they allow us to appreciate the awe of it all and connect it to our emotions, I don't knock that, and express things that way myself some times.  And that the acts of that session wouldn't have left me in that state if it weren't for the intense emotional context.

~ J 



Mercurialdame -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 3:45:35 PM)

Hi Rrafe.
Energy transfers. Mmmm. Let me think.
I have new and emerging thoughts on this. Based upon my readings of vampyrism, reiki etc.
I have a suspicion, that there are some people, who are intuitive. Very intuitive.
Im a synathestetic. I have a screwed up brain, that processes the senses inaccurately. I see peoples colour. Like a mist in front of them. Those that are into mumbo jumbo, call this an aura. Being a aquarian, i call it brain damage. I also 'feel' colours. And we use this in our play to its full advantage. But i'll put it in my file to investigate later.
I have some fanatsy, that i can draw someone in, using energy. When i try this, it appears to work. But so many variables at play too, i still have doubts. How do you separate out, which forces are at play? was it you and your focussing, that lead the person to enter that state, or the 'victims' fantasies being played out in their head. Triggered by what you are doing or about to do for instance?
I notice others also who have this ability, and im recognised by them. I have to date, never found an explanation that sits well with me. The vampire feeding on energy stuff, all seems a bit la la to me. The reiki stuff has been the closest fit so far.
Maybe there is some form of psyche at play, but i have little understanding or mastering of this, so im cautious. Naturally so.
I do share a feeling of great intensity with my partner. And that connection is found often. Its spiritually surreal, and the language to describe it escapes me, along with others that try.
Powerexchange, could easily be changed to energy exchange in my world of play, if not life.
md




RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 3:46:25 PM)

Part of the reason aftercare is needed-is to help to bring the physical and emotional blances back up.

I used to have one girl who would scene and run......and she crashed hard every damned time after-I really took her down. I finally got tired of hearing her whining about how bad she felt-when I was willing to help her. Finally just said-"If you don't have the time *I* need to be your Top-don't bother me." Things got better for her after that-we didn't scene as much-but the time had quality.



RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 3:50:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercurialdame

Hi Rrafe.
Energy transfers. Mmmm. Let me think.
I have new and emerging thoughts on this. Based upon my readings of vampyrism, reiki etc.
I have a suspicion, that there are some people, who are intuitive. Very intuitive.
Im a synathestetic. I have a screwed up brain, that processes the senses inaccurately. I see peoples colour. Like a mist in front of them. Those that are into mumbo jumbo, call this an aura. Being a aquarian, i call it brain damage. I also 'feel' colours. And we use this in our play to its full advantage. But i'll put it in my file to investigate later.
I have some fanatsy, that i can draw someone in, using energy. When i try this, it appears to work. But so many variables at play too, i still have doubts. How do you separate out, which forces are at play? was it you and your focussing, that lead the person to enter that state, or the 'victims' fantasies being played out in their head. Triggered by what you are doing or about to do for instance?
I notice others also who have this ability, and im recognised by them. I have to date, never found an explanation that sits well with me. The vampire feeding on energy stuff, all seems a bit la la to me. The reiki stuff has been the closest fit so far.
Maybe there is some form of psyche at play, but i have little understanding or mastering of this, so im cautious. Naturally so.
I do share a feeling of great intensity with my partner. And that connection is found often. Its spiritually surreal, and the language to describe it escapes me, along with others that try.
Powerexchange, could easily be changed to energy exchange in my world of play, if not life.
md




I kmnow it sounds hokey-but that's the only way I can explain how charged up I feel-and not just during bdsm play,but more intense control scenes.

Probably bad prose on my part-but really couldn't get a closer handle on it.....it's like asking "Do you know the feeling?"

How could you? You are obviuosly not US.



Cyntilating -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 4:18:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

Over time, I have come to realize just what it is that drew me into bdsm.

Let me clue you in, as to where my nick name comes from. SG1 fans probably already know what "the Rafe" are. An alien race in the series-that are life force vampires. I chose it for it's aptness to how I am wired. I'm strongly attuned to energies and sensitivity in perception.

Those of you who have read some of my rather extreme erotica, may have wondered " Why is this fellow so evil in his methodology?" I'm actually pretty laid back and benign overall.

Everything I do is for one purpose-to increase the intensity of energy output. To awaken-to enliven-to sharpen a moment into painfully clear visions. I'm sure that I am far from alone in seeking my intimacy-my feeding-in this manner. Because these same energies are circular-they flow back and forth.

And one of the special things we do in D/s-or bdsm...with people we are attuned to-is to establish conduits. Which may well explain the empty feelings we have after a break up. The feeling of void spaces within.......the conduit is broken.

Is your intimacy based on your energy?


absolutely..
  sharpened senses...intense feelings, both emotional and physical.  as you say, like we are plugged into one another.
 
 The more he reaches for, the more that is there inside me to give. 
The more i surrender the stronger he becomes..
 
( I don't even go to that soft cushy floaty place most talk about, sub space.... my subspace is dark and full of intense arousal...primal..scary sometimes...but filled with energy....)
 
I feel like sometimes I am sparking because every thing seems so  ( can't think of the word to use here)
hence the name >  Sintilating.. setting off sparks.
 
Gee, I hope I understood your question..
[:)]



Cyntilating -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 4:27:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercurialdame

Hi Rrafe.
Energy transfers. Mmmm. Let me think.
I have new and emerging thoughts on this. Based upon my readings of vampyrism, reiki etc.
I have a suspicion, that there are some people, who are intuitive. Very intuitive.
Im a synathestetic. I have a screwed up brain, that processes the senses inaccurately. I see peoples colour. Like a mist in front of them. Those that are into mumbo jumbo, call this an aura. Being a aquarian, i call it brain damage. I also 'feel' colours. And we use this in our play to its full advantage. But i'll put it in my file to investigate later.
I have some fanatsy, that i can draw someone in, using energy. When i try this, it appears to work. But so many variables at play too, i still have doubts. How do you separate out, which forces are at play? was it you and your focussing, that lead the person to enter that state, or the 'victims' fantasies being played out in their head. Triggered by what you are doing or about to do for instance?
I notice others also who have this ability, and im recognised by them. I have to date, never found an explanation that sits well with me. The vampire feeding on energy stuff, all seems a bit la la to me. The reiki stuff has been the closest fit so far.
Maybe there is some form of psyche at play, but i have little understanding or mastering of this, so im cautious. Naturally so.
I do share a feeling of great intensity with my partner. And that connection is found often. Its spiritually surreal, and the language to describe it escapes me, along with others that try.
Powerexchange, could easily be changed to energy exchange in my world of play, if not life.
md




I get this : )
I don't see Auras ( altho I do know people who do) but rather, my energy flows from my hands.....
And I can touch a body and tell by the feeling/sensation in my hands where there is dysfunction or pain..injury..
I feel the energy of the body
and I can share mine, replacing (healing) in others what is not there.
 
 
 



batshalom -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 4:49:21 PM)

Hey Rrafe. Interesting.

My current dynamic is one I have not experienced before but it ~feels~ entirely right. It is Aba / yaldah (Daddy / daughter). It is where the energy lies (and runs and skips and hops and plays tag and teases ...).

This energy is warm and nurturing, very caring and full. There are times that Aba can be Adon (Master - there is no real translation for "Sir" in Hebrew) and a Sadist as well. Enjoying Sadism is something unique to my experience as a submissive - prior to Aba, it was frightening and something to dread. But ... it works this time. It is something I float in and embrace.

Hopefully most dynamics are energy-driven, finding a groove that works together, not forcing but listening, feeling, touching, sipping and enjoying the uniqueness of being together.



RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 4:52:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercurialdame

Hi Rrafe.
Energy transfers. Mmmm. Let me think.
I have new and emerging thoughts on this. Based upon my readings of vampyrism, reiki etc.
I have a suspicion, that there are some people, who are intuitive. Very intuitive.
Im a synathestetic. I have a screwed up brain, that processes the senses inaccurately. I see peoples colour. Like a mist in front of them. Those that are into mumbo jumbo, call this an aura. Being a aquarian, i call it brain damage. I also 'feel' colours. And we use this in our play to its full advantage. But i'll put it in my file to investigate later.
I have some fanatsy, that i can draw someone in, using energy. When i try this, it appears to work. But so many variables at play too, i still have doubts. How do you separate out, which forces are at play? was it you and your focussing, that lead the person to enter that state, or the 'victims' fantasies being played out in their head. Triggered by what you are doing or about to do for instance?
I notice others also who have this ability, and im recognised by them. I have to date, never found an explanation that sits well with me. The vampire feeding on energy stuff, all seems a bit la la to me. The reiki stuff has been the closest fit so far.
Maybe there is some form of psyche at play, but i have little understanding or mastering of this, so im cautious. Naturally so.
I do share a feeling of great intensity with my partner. And that connection is found often. Its spiritually surreal, and the language to describe it escapes me, along with others that try.
Powerexchange, could easily be changed to energy exchange in my world of play, if not life.
md




I get this : )
I don't see Auras ( altho I do know people who do) but rather, my energy flows from my hands.....
And I can touch a body and tell by the feeling/sensation in my hands where there is dysfunction or pain..injury..
I feel the energy of the body
and I can share mine, replacing (healing) in others what is not there.
 
 
 


Many past subs have commented that my hands get extremely hot feeling on them during scenes. Almost burning. others have commented on the energy-I can't really understand it-I can only feel what happens with the right people.



Statepalace -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 4:52:38 PM)

Synchronicity is a funny thing. Last night I was reading up on energy work and bdsm.

(great website - http://baphomet.genderrage.com/toybox.html)

I was a licensed massage therapist years ago, and have some experience with energy work. I don't think of it as spiritual hooey; I think of it as something that is meerly not (usually) visible. It's not a matter of faith. Magnets work, and I can't see magnetic energy fields either.

My Dom flew down for a visit the weekend before last, and while a happy time was had by all He mentioned being "drained" the morning after we played. Now, it could certainly have been the 5 hour flight from Boston combined with His allergies acting up, but it did concern me.

I didn't feel drained the next morning. I also didn't feel full and buzzing either. What worried me is that while I am sensitive to energy I am in NO WAY experienced at doing something deliberately, other than in a "top" situation where I am the therapist and the other person is naked on the table. Those times were also completely non-sexual. When He said that He felt drained one of my thoughts was "Oh crap, did I do that without realizing it?" during one of the times I wasn't in control of myself.

A few questions for RRafe (and I am such the Stargate fan), if you wouldn't mind sharing your experience.

First, where could I look for more education in things like this, other than paying for Reiki training? What I received in massage school was vague and limited. I also have martial arts experience (but a decade distant) that did go into moving energy with throws. I am looking for writings on the subject. If you could be of help there I would sincerely appreciate it.

Second, how can I tell if He really was "drained"? He didn't feel that way to me. He has a terribly high stress job, and the way He felt to me the next day was more like He was stoned - a very "loud" floaty feeling, like a warm blanket in whatever room He was in. He didn't report any ill effects, and in fact described a profound inner peace that lasted most of the following week. A dream that He didn't want to wake up from was His description. Would this fit more with a release of tension than being drained? I've been feeling guilty and a little worried about Him. I worry that as we know each other longer and play more intensely, that connection will be bigger. Good thing, generally, but now I'm worried that maybe I'll do something inadvertently that messes with Him.

Thank you in advance for any advice.






RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 5:03:39 PM)

I've never had formal training in anything like this-reiki people have told me they felt a "wild reiki energy" in me. As far as the balances go-I only know what I have felt from past associations-and why I am VERY careful of who I hook up with. People with strong negativity are like an electrical connection to ground-if you will......they pretty much take your energy and piss it down the drain. Others can take it at times,but go to ground intermittently. You may feel strong one time, the mood changes in them, and they ground out again. Others seem to feel "insulated" I get nothing from them one way or the other.......like black holes. Most of the girls I have had seemed to be drawn to me for my personality at first-but more so for the energy-later on. But it can be a bitch, because the personality does not always match thier potential.

I mean, I can send someone off by touching her right...but we totally don't get along outside of a scene. As far as what your Dom felt? The ony times I have felt drained and suffered top drop were when a sub was being a bitch-or a nut job. I doubt that's what happened with you and him.

It could be that he simply vented out something discordant. I know that there have been times that I just gave up that sort of thing to my image of the divine. and a wonderful sense of peace descended on me.  But I am wired strangely-I never float-things get sharper.



dragonnette -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 5:16:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe
Is your intimacy based on your energy?


Very much so.  Sir and I feed off of each other's energy even when we aren't in scene. In scene it is very intense.  Taking and giving energy and letting it build.   It is amazing. 

Sometimes, we will "feed" by sucking on pulse points on the neck or wrist.  Like vampires only no blood is drawn.  Just energy.




adoracat -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 5:23:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

Everything I do is for one purpose-to increase the intensity of energy output. To awaken-to enliven-to sharpen a moment into painfully clear visions. I'm sure that I am far from alone in seeking my intimacy-my feeding-in this manner. Because these same energies are circular-they flow back and forth.

And one of the special things we do in D/s-or bdsm...with people we are attuned to-is to establish conduits. Which may well explain the empty feelings we have after a break up. The feeling of void spaces within.......the conduit is broken.

Is your intimacy based on your energy?


absolutely.  Daddy feeds on my energies and my passion for him, and the power/energy/lust/passion/love we spark between one another when we're scening or being intimate.

i allow him to do this, and trust him not to hurt me...and he respects that as much as he does the rest of me, and the more obvious submission i give him.  i give, he takes. 

kitten



Statepalace -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 5:41:44 PM)

Thank you, that did help. I had hoped that maybe He just didn't have the language to describe the dramatic reduction in tension with with any other word but drained. Like the tension drained away. I was just worried because after the first time we played I was on a serious high. Needed little sleep that night and was bright and buzzed, calm and centered the whole next day. Colors were sharper, traffic didn't bother me and all was right with the world. Much like a post ecstacy feeling (in years past), but with no ill effects and lots more physical energy. As I didn't see Him the next day that first time, and He said the word drained this time, I thought that maybe I had done it last time as well and didn't know because He just didn't say anything.

I am also careful with those I hook up with. Well, I say careful, but it's more that I can't stand to be touched by 95% of the adult population and intimacy is simply not an option with them. I've tried to force it, and generally can't make it past the arrival of our salads while at dinner without feeling ill. This does not usually happen in a situation without sexual overtones (a date would be an example of one with those overtones), but it can. Touching someone is different, as I kind of consider my hands "public property" after being a massage therapist. Energy goes out of my hands, not into them, so touching is not the same as being touched, if that makes sense.



His energy is so, so different. It's deep and quiet. And consistent. No mood swings, no constant changes in pull. Like a clear bell sound that lets my head be quiet and drowns out everyone else. I'm not bothered by the waitres in a bad mood, the couple next to our table that aren't speaking and stabbing their plates to heavily with their silverware, by the bartender that is laughing too loudly out of nerves. They are still there when He's next to me, but they don't have the same pressure. I don't have to feel them if I don't want to. It's amazing. He's amazing.  

And as to being wired strangely, if you are then He is wired strangely as well. Months ago I asked Him if He ever "got really floaty and had things get really slow" when we played. He laughed and said no, that the opposite happened and His focus on me got sharper and tighter during that time.



mistoferin -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 6:11:19 PM)

I used to believe that we feed off of each other's energy but something that KnightofMists said has me rethinking it just a bit. He said that the two people (and even others in attendance can contribute to) create an energy together that they feed from. This makes more sense to me because if indeed we fed directly from each other, the weaker of the two would end up empty. As a submissive and a masochist, I know that I feel very empowered after a good scene, and I don't believe that I would feel that if the sadist was feeding directly off my energy rather than feeding off of the energy we create together.



RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 6:15:19 PM)

I base a lot of what I do on touch. My hands are instictively drawn to areas that have higher energies......so I like using my hands more than I do toys-during bdsm sessions. I also never use things made by others, including bondage gear. I have a high degree of skill in crafting these things,very picky about them. So in a way-they are extensions of me.

I always think about what effect a thing I desire to do will have on a woman. How I want to restrain her movements-how that will feel to her.......there is somewhat of an art to these things.........the vibrations I feel tend to guide my moods and predilections........Being able to sense when someone is ready for something...does help with the spontenaety of a scene.

While we are not mind readers, I do sense that we pick up on subtle cues.........not just body language, but something in the atmosphere......




RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 6:17:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I used to believe that we feed off of each other's energy but something that KnightofMists said has me rethinking it just a bit. He said that the two people (and even others in attendance can contribute to) create an energy together that they feed from. This makes more sense to me because if indeed we fed directly from each other, the weaker of the two would end up empty. As a submissive and a masochist, I know that I feel very empowered after a good scene, and I don't believe that I would feel that if the sadist was feeding directly off my energy rather than feeding off of the energy we create together.


I do recall mentioning the amplification effect. Where does the extra energy come from?



PsyVamp -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 6:18:47 PM)

*peeks her head in and looks around*
Well, I don’t see anyone with a torch or a pitchfork…but one cannot be too sure.

I’m always skeptical about threads like these at first, looking for a witch hunt. 
I started one of my own many months ago, but it wasn’t like this one, that’s for sure.

All my voluntary interactions are based on energy.  I say voluntary because sometimes we need to interact with people at work or in our day to day lives that we wouldn’t choose if it were left to us.

When the energy is right, intimacy can be awesome.  To be able to lose yourself completely in the moment, only feeling and instinct and energy is so..primal and makes me feel so very alive.

I once did a scene in a club…both of us were fully dressed, but the energy between the two of us during simple fang and claw play was so vital and passionate that the whole club was buzzing.. after that everyone was asking me to play.  Of course, I was riding the energy high and all I really wanted to do was grab a bottle of water and sit down!

I have not studied reiki so I will not talk about it.  I’d rather stick to things I know.

I am tied to a few people by energy, I know when their emotions run to the extreme, and they in turn are aware of mine.  This is true even though one lives 300 miles away and the other is farther than that.

Psy  aka Lady Jag



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Energy people (10/30/2007 6:28:34 PM)

Your thread subject is redundant and puzzled me.

Everything is about energy.  How could intimacy be excluded from that?

However I will say I enjoy hanging with vampires because they really get into and enjoy the energy for what it is while most kinky people simply experience it as a side effect or unconsciously with what they do.  I also enjoy their surprise and disappointment when they can't just feed off me like they can most people.  Presumptuous dicks.



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