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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Subs have to walk a fine line between proactive and being pushy or annoying.  They also walk a fine line between being "open" to something, being helpful, vs being a pushy bottom. 

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ORIGINAL: hammerthrower

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Subs have to walk a fine line between proactive and being pushy or annoying.  They also walk a fine line between being "open" to something, being helpful, vs being a pushy bottom. 

And who the fuck are you to say what line subs have to walk? Who elected you the spokesperson for this community? What gives you the authority to mandate the conduct of a large segment of this community, people you have never even met?

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ORIGINAL: hammerthrower

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Subs have to walk a fine line between proactive and being pushy or annoying.  They also walk a fine line between being "open" to something, being helpful, vs being a pushy bottom. 

And who the fuck are you to say what line subs have to walk? Who elected you the spokesperson for this community? What gives you the authority to mandate the conduct of a large segment of this community, people you have never even met?

I don't think Akasha needs anyone to come to her defense as she's quite capable of defending herself, but I have to say that I interpreted what she wrote as simply an observation, not a mandate for how subs should conduct themselves.  In my personal experience, it very often is indeed a fine line we have to walk between being submissive to our Mistresses and pushing our own agendas.  How one does this takes a fair amount of communications skills, selective timing, proper attitude, and a few other things that are difficult to describe which are often specific to one's dynamic with their Mistress.

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ORIGINAL: hammerthrower
When the OP made that claim, he was denounced. How dare anyone make generalizations about women!? That's a territory that's sacred!

But bitch about "radioactive" subs, and we get a chorus of voices chiming in to compile a laundry list of faults, all of them males. Aren't there any female subs who aren't perfect? Is "radioactive" synonymous with "male?" What sexists are supporting this concept?

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ORIGINAL: hammerthrower

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Subs have to walk a fine line between proactive and being pushy or annoying.  They also walk a fine line between being "open" to something, being helpful, vs being a pushy bottom. 

And who the fuck are you to say what line subs have to walk? Who elected you the spokesperson for this community? What gives you the authority to mandate the conduct of a large segment of this community, people you have never even met?

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hammerthrower wrote: This topic reminds me of the "all dommes want the same guy" thread.

When the OP made that claim, he was denounced. How dare anyone make generalizations about women!? That's a territory that's sacred!

But bitch about "radioactive" subs, and we get a chorus of voices chiming in to compile a laundry list of faults, all of them males.

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ORIGINAL: beeble

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hammerthrower wrote: This topic reminds me of the "all dommes want the same guy" thread.

When the OP made that claim, he was denounced. How dare anyone make generalizations about women!? That's a territory that's sacred!

But bitch about "radioactive" subs, and we get a chorus of voices chiming in to compile a laundry list of faults, all of them males.

The problem with the `all dommes want the same guy' thread is that it was a generalization, not specifically that it was about women.  Nobody here has attempted to generalize from their bad experiences with specific subs (usually, but not always male subs) to say that all male subs or all subs are obnoxious.  Can you not see the distinction?

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ORIGINAL: beeble

No.  One specific person was described as `bitter and angry': that is not a generalization.  You, on the other hand say that `whenever a guy comes on here...'  That would be what we call a `generalization'.

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ORIGINAL: Sunao

I do slightly agree though about the "Bitter and Angry" and the "Proud and" Strong. I really don't know where you got patience if it was patience then I doubt the generalized woman would come on here with a problem stemming from frustration and impatience....isn't that what one calls an oxymoron?

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CollegeConundrum wrote: One person, in this thread. How many people in this forum? I've only been browsing for less than a month and I see several daily. Especially directed at males.

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ORIGINAL: beeble
Many men are able to post to these forums hundreds of times without being called `bitter' or `angry'.

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ORIGINAL: beeble
Many men are able to post to these forums hundreds of times without being called `bitter' or `angry'.

Having been around in this particular forum for a while and being the pain slut that Mistress says that I am, I'm very tempted to just bite my tongue.  Instead, I'll say that it's been my observation that the receptiveness to men posting in this forum ebbs and flows a great deal with the collective mindset of the women who are actively posting here at any given point in time. 

In the past, there are those who have come out and said they didn't think male subs should post in this forum or their threads.  Fortunately, those women do not seem to represent the thinking of the majority of Dommes on this board.

My apologies for the assist in the hijaak.  I now return you to your regularly scheduled chaos.

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ORIGINAL: unravel

As a submissive, i can certainly see such a difference between "radioactive" and "proactive". Almost an evolution, a mental and emotional progression possibly, well maybe for me as i matured into submission.
i believe the "proactive" kind is where the true submission lies, and where the exhange of Power can begin. To reach this "proactive" stage, i feel one needs to "let go" of pre-conceived beliefs and wants and desires about what a D/s relationship "should" be, about how his/her Dominant "should" interact. By letting go, one embraces his/her true self, and exposes his/her bare emotional canvas for the Dominant to better know him/her.
This "letting go" takes time and efforts, but nothing has been more worth it (to me). Embracing your submissive self to then truly be able to serve your Dominant and please Him/Her, not the other way around.
Thank You for this thread, it was refreshing!
unravel

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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish

Where's the 'domme licking sweet subbie' emoticon when you want one?

I think this one is the closest there is, unless you want california cool with sunglasses (  ) drooling on you.

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish

Where's the 'domme licking sweet subbie' emoticon when you want one?

I think this one is the closest there is, unless you want california cool with sunglasses (  ) drooling on you.
 
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