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Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 2:37:29 AM   
RazorJAK


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An odd thing occured tonight while I was passing out candy to the boils and ghouls who showed up to my door.

A group of "cheerleaders" in their mid-teens(*) came up to the porch for candy.  As I was doing my best "Uncle Creepy"(**) impersonation,  I noticed one of them was wearing BDSM "emblem" earrings. 

My sanity was saved by making up the assumption that she found them in some shoppe and just liked how they looked.  But you never know nowadays.

Anyone else out there ever encounter something similar?  Noticing something "lifestyle" where it might not belong?

(*) I'm usually spot-on when it comes to age range.  I've spent too many years checking IDs.
(**)  Need to find someone who'll dress up as "Cousin Eerie" or "Vampirella" one year.



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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 3:02:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		In all honesty it might have been legit...I know I had found out about the lifestyle that early if not a little earlier and had I found a girl who was similar it wouldn't have mattered what people thought or how old we were.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 3:55:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		My first S/m was me at 17, her at 15.  So it's more than possible.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 4:01:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your question though was whether we'd seen lifestyle out where it doesn't belong.  That's a tough one, because not everyone who considers themselves a subscriber to BDSM uses the same symbolism; it varies from region to region, subculture to subculture, person to person.  I have seen men/women wearing outrageous collars in unusual places, like the offices at Chase Manhattan when I worked there... but I'm not sure that counts in your tally.  It's fun to ponder this, though, so good question.


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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 5:18:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RazorJAK


An odd thing occured tonight while I was passing out candy to the boils and ghouls who showed up to my door.

A group of "cheerleaders" in their mid-teens(*) came up to the porch for candy.  As I was doing my best "Uncle Creepy"(**) impersonation,  I noticed one of them was wearing BDSM "emblem" earrings. 

My sanity was saved by making up the assumption that she found them in some shoppe and just liked how they looked.  But you never know nowadays.

Anyone else out there ever encounter something similar?  Noticing something "lifestyle" where it might not belong?

(*) I'm usually spot-on when it comes to age range.  I've spent too many years checking IDs.
(**)  Need to find someone who'll dress up as "Cousin Eerie" or "Vampirella" one year.




I'm not seeing where in this story is something BDSM/Lifestyle where it might not belong.  Could you clarify?

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 5:23:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		 I started dabbling in the life when I was 17 but I as a young child I knew I was Dominant; I was also attracted to metal objects; handcuffs and such but not in the "I want to be a police officer" frame of mind.  I wanted to play.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 6:45:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Probably something they came across in Hot Topic or such places. Maybe she likes some kinky play but more likely if she knows the meaning, it's a way to rebel without telling her parents that she's rebelling. A way to feel "Aren't I cool". I wouldn't read anything into it one way or the other.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 6:53:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sadly because of our paranoid sex culture it might not be wise for an adult to ask "hey do those symbols have any meaning for you?"

Some of it may be an interest but I think most is "fashion" that you can find in almost any mall these days. Plus goths wear a lot of stuff that could have kink meanings or simply goth meanings -- goth does not equal kink.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 6:59:17 AM   
pgashlie


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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, we've become trendy :-)
Try a search on "bondage" and see how many perfectly vanilla clothing stores you come up with, advertising stuff like pants or shoes with "bondage buckles", etc.
And yes, you can buy triskelion-symbol jewelry in all kinds of places.  Many people confuse it with the Tao symbol, or think it's something similar.
(Yes, I've asked a few... :-)

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 7:17:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's possibly legit, but most likely she saw them and was attracted to them without knowledge of what they were. As in here, most don't have the sense to ask questions. Unless you are fairly familiar with BDSM, you probably have no idea of what is really around you.

At a young age, I was interested in BDSM. But, the resources to allow me to investigate what those twisted desires were about, where very limited.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 7:31:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		If she was under about, say, 25 or 30, I'd say she pro'lly has no clue. That's been my experience, for the most part, anyway. So, don't even think it. In my humble experience, a woman of the fold needs to mature like a ripening wine, going soft around the edges but perking up in the brain, over time, lying on her side and letting the sediments of life settle to the bottom. Why? Mostly because this deep dark D/s desire of ours is so very much ingrained into our central nervous system, yet, since our puritanican society does not allow common avenues for its expression, a woman needs maturation time to accept herself first, and her wants - over and above what society considers normal. The bulk of society, publically anyway, would try to "fix" her like trying to change the taste of a wine artificially - all you do is ruin the wine. I find the ladies in their thirties and forties and beyond enjoy the most of the BDSM world because they have matured beyond the bonds of society which has corked them up inside. As always YMMV. This is one man's opinion and I realize others who are in their twenties will disagree so I must repeat - this has been my experience and is not necessarily meant to apply to all twenty-something females. Good luck.

By the way, I find women wearing collars in the grocery store - and even that makes me wonder. UmmMmmMmmMmm... good thoughts if I could only attach the leash and lead her through the aisles.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 7:34:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can find triskele symbols in just about any store that sells Celtic jewelry.    It's a common design in knotwork patterns.


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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 7:42:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I share the OP's confusion, though. A few years back, In Boulder, I was having a conversation with the teenage daughter of a a business partner, and I was noticing that she and her friends had gotten into the fashion of wearing dog collars. Distracting to say the least! It was just a punkish fad, of course... although she did mention that she and her friends liked to tie each other up on occasion...

The fact that she was 14, dictated that I just sit there, and not say a word....


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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 7:45:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		i dont see anything wrong with the kids wearing that stuff just mind you they are underage and it's not a topic that can be legally discussed.....

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 8:49:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		were they truely BDSM emblem earings, like the whole quagmyr emblem or were they just celtic triskeles?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM_Emblem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_spiral

cause though there is not a huge difference in how you approach it..it might help you untwist your mind....



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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 1:29:18 PM   
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i dont see anything wrong with the kids wearing that stuff just mind you they are underage and it's not a topic that can be legally discussed.....

~meticulous~


That can be discussed under the TOS of this forum. It's not illegal, though.


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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 1:44:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

You can find triskele symbols in just about any store that sells Celtic jewelry.    It's a common design in knotwork patterns.



*nods*  If it were the knotwork pattern I wouldn't think twice about it.  There are a lot of foofootreehuggingcrystalwavingbunnyfucking wiccans in this area who can't decide from one week to the next if they're of Irish or Scottish descent ... and/or don't realize there's a difference.(*)

These were the BDSM emblems ... the ones which look more like a three sectional version of tao.


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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 1:57:23 PM   
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The fact that she was 14, dictated that I just sit there, and not say a word....


Kids say the damnedest things.

The middle son (age 9) of my (now) ex came up to me in the study one day and asked if I'd tie him up.

Turns out he'd just discovered Harry Houdini and wanted to be an escape artist when he grew up.




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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 2:19:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's fully possible for somebody to have a legit interest in the lifestyle at a young age.  I know I did.  I'd only have serious questions about somebody being *active* in the lifestyle at that age...even with people their own age.

Why?  Cause I'm a total prude.

Oh, and kids are clumsy.

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RE: Trick or Treat - 11/1/2007 4:12:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's great in today's world that teens CAN just as easily be expressing their kink side as much as just being fashionable.

One can hope in the next few generations, no one will CARE whether they are expressing their kink side or just being fashionable because it won't be a big deal.

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