camille65
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God forbid us godly americans should have to have anything to do with another language, even something as simple as listening to a 2 second section of a voice recording. How dare people inflict culture on us! I demand we stay singular, unadulterated, unintelligent, unknowledgable fools about other countries, culture and people!
We are SO far behind the times and other countries as far as really integrating quality education, culture and language in our country and education, I think this whiney complaint misses the point that we are teaching our kids ignorance, intolerance and limiting their opportunities with our supremicist attitudes.
Seriously, I'm sorry your friends were "gunned down", however, you seem to have enough intelligence to understand that a few violent hispanics do not make a world of them, anymore than a few violent americans make a country of hatemongers. We are paying this price as americans right now, everyday, because of such stereotypes. Obviously not all hispanics enter this country to commit crimes, that's just ridiculous hatred stemming apparently from personal trauma. Racism is unintelligent dogma, let it go.
You talk about education, but remember, in America, education takes money, teachers--and all other occupations--are paid more. (This is a prime reason that the foreigns invade our country) BUT every moment we waste trying to teach English to unwilling foreigns is a moment we COULD spend teaching something useful. As a result America's education system is dumbed down to let the foreigns pass, otherwise the foreign-infested schools lose Federal funding (And we CERTAINLY can't ask the invaders' home-countries to foot the bill for their re-education, can we? How rude of us evil, evil Americans to ask foreigns to pay their own way!) Gifted programs have been cut to 10% of their former funding (Don't worry, they weren't getting paid much anyways!)
By contrast, in China and other countries we are falling behind, the compulsory education thing is "adjusted" so that those who fail, get to go to lesser schools, aimed at lower occupations. China has taken 2 professors from our University alone to help them learn English--and the kids are actually anxious to learn! (In the news last night, they claimed that China has more English speakers than the USA! While PART of that could be their higher population and the Law of Averages, it could also be that our "all cultures are equal" BS has reduced the value of learning English and assimilation, PLUS a few million--the number varies between 12 MILLION and 40 MILLION--illegals...)
Racism is often bandied about to squelch this sort of reasoning, but Americ is losing precisely BECAUSE we cater to other countries' rejects who abruptly decide that they don't even "need" to learn our language--but they still want our money/goods/foreign-aid! I agree with you that racism is unintelligent and dogmatic, but let us instead call this NATIONALISM...
There is even an Hispanic organization ALLEGEDLY dedicated to rooting out illegals--they want to police themselves(?)--called "You Don't Speak For Me"
Even if it IS a hoax, it's a well-articulated hoax, about LEGAL immigrants who believe their neighborhoods and/or reputations have been ruined by the hijinx of the ingrate illegals, www.dontspeakforme.org
Since America is paying these other countries, what's wrong with them spending some of that money to learn English--or taking taxpayer-subsidized "English as a Second Language" classes (Or like aforementioned China, they could learn English, since that is de-facto the international language, and/or just to earn more money--or should we just pay them for being foreign and bringing "culture" in exchange for our First World "benefits" and "technology", especially in the field of MEDICINE?! )
Our schools were being dumbed down back in the 1970's, I know you weren't around back then..The teachers began to emphasize feeling good about oneself over learning. Telling Johnny that he did a goooood job sliding down the slide and no his math test wasn't wrong but there could have been a better answer. There were classes like 'Me, Myself & I' which focused on nothing but telling the kids they were all special and all good.Children earned grades not through merit, but because it could damage them if they didn't pass. BTW, are you aware just how racist and negative you come across as? I ask that seriously because you may not realise it. Editional: (combo of edit and added) I think that while he did have a viewing audience there are a lot that disliked him since the Mexico incident. He was wrong in that whole thing. I don't remember enough of the details but I do remember he was wrong lol. Helpful huh.I personally never liked his program, too condescending and far too much machismo of the bad kind. His sons gf probably isn't happy over this either. One of my thoughts was since it was a phone call with his son, that he son is the one that brought it to the press. He may feel bad about it but it was so casually said by him that I think it is just his mentality.
< Message edited by camille65 -- 11/1/2007 11:09:07 AM >
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