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knees2you -> Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 1:07:37 PM)
Has anybody here on the site ever had an out of the Body experience? Here is an Errie Story. A friend at the ad agency I work in; a hard working editor, had spent 3 consecutive days and nights working in several urgent T.V. spots –living on sandwiches, coffee and Cokes. The night of the third day –at around 04:00-, he got up from his editing console to fix himself some coffee. Went down the stairs to the cafeteria, filled his mug, chatted a bit with the night guardsman, and climbed back to the editing room. There was no one else at the agency that night. As he was coming into the editing room he saw someone sitting in his chair: Himself. Sitting down in front of the console, working. The guy was terrified. “It was me there, pressing buttons and editing, moving from scene to scene! ’I was petrified! ‘Sitting there, my ‘other self’ turned briefly to look at me standing by the door, and then went back to keep on editing. I even saw the scenes changing in the screen and heard the click-clicking in the key board!’ The guy didn’t dare to come back to the editing room. He went down stairs scared as hell, to tell the night guard the history. The following day, still reluctant to enter the editing room, he finished the urgent job. And still terrified told us his story. Wow now that's out of the Body~[&:] Sincerely, Ant[;)]

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 2:19:52 PM)
I've experienced OOBE's for as long as I can remember, both awake and asleep. It frightens many people when they have them or recognize them at first, it's a very jarring experience and we aren't told much about them growing up. But it's not a big deal, no harm will be done, there's some fairly good lit out on the OOBE if people want to research.

FangsNfeet -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 4:42:28 PM)
[>:] This makes me wonder about forceing a sub to have an OOBE by spanking the soul out of them. Talk about beyond sub space. There's the snap, the whip is good, the sub is going, going, GONE!!! out of her body!

UtopianRanger -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 5:44:41 PM)
OBE's are indeed a fascinating phenomena. I've had what I thought were the beginnings of them, and they scared the crap out of me. Some confuse OBE's with sleep paralysis, which is a whole different thing. It's funny you mention this topic, because it wasn't long ago that I picked up a good book on Obe's and astral projection, right off of e-bay - Though I haven't read it yet. - The Ranger

Kindred2Evil -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 8:22:33 PM)
Have you ever had a dream where you were falling and right before you slammed into whatever you woke up with a jarring sensation and your heart thudding? I've been a Wiccan/Pagan for a very very long time and I was told that when one does that, they are experiencing an out of body moment. The jarring sensation is you coming back into your body without control. I was lucky enough to have a wonderful Teacher who taught me how to do it with success time and time again, to me it's a thrilling experience. Time means nothing, distance means nothing, you can go and see whatever it is you desire at that moment. I've been able to project to my Teacher while he was visiting Australia, and he came to me as well. As with anything, read up on it, study it so it doesn't scare the be-jesus out of you ;)

mistoferin -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 8:44:21 PM)
Ok someone enlighten me. I have many times during a scene been able to "watch" the scene and see myself in it. Is this what we are talking about here? There was also a time during some very unpleasant circumstances that I "watched" myself from above. I have never had the experience of having this happen while going about my day. I just assumed that it was something that was triggered during times of high physical stress or trauma.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 8:51:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kindred2Evil Have you ever had a dream where you were falling and right before you slammed into whatever you woke up with a jarring sensation and your heart thudding? I've been a Wiccan/Pagan for a very very long time and I was told that when one does that, they are experiencing an out of body moment. The jarring sensation is you coming back into your body without control. I was lucky enough to have a wonderful Teacher who taught me how to do it with success time and time again, to me it's a thrilling experience. Time means nothing, distance means nothing, you can go and see whatever it is you desire at that moment. I've been able to project to my Teacher while he was visiting Australia, and he came to me as well. As with anything, read up on it, study it so it doesn't scare the be-jesus out of you ;) The other theory is that it's your brain sending nerve jolts through your body, either as "residual energy" or as a safety mechanism to the body. I often have those dreams, usually in the start of my REM cycle but I've never associated it with an OOBE, it doesn't feel the same to me at all. For me OOBEs and dreams are very different things, even lucid dreams.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 9:14:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin Ok someone enlighten me. I have many times during a scene been able to "watch" the scene and see myself in it. Is this what we are talking about here? There was also a time during some very unpleasant circumstances that I "watched" myself from above. I have never had the experience of having this happen while going about my day. I just assumed that it was something that was triggered during times of high physical stress or trauma. Yes that is fairly typical of an OOBE- and it is often triggered by physical stress or trauma. NDEs- Near Death Experiences are pretty much a specific type of OOBE. That's also part of why people get freaked out and scared when they happen, it's not usually under the best of circumstances. However, like multiple orgasms, many people can LEARN to have OOBEs consciously, any time they like (if you believe in it to begin with).

mistoferin -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 9:24:11 PM)
quote: However, like multiple orgasms, many people can LEARN to have OOBEs consciously, any time they like (if you believe in it to begin with). Interesting, although I am not sure that I would want to be able to do that at random. I do have the ability to "disconnect" from almost any given situation, but not to that extent. I have to wonder, are there significant differences than the kind I experience during subspace and the time I experienced it from trauma. You are correct in that I believe I was very close to death at that moment in time. However, although the experiences are different in some manner...I have found them to always be complimented by a feeling of peace. The one I experienced traumatically also had a quality of intense sadness and a sense of urgency...but it was a place where the pain receded.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 9:37:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin quote: However, like multiple orgasms, many people can LEARN to have OOBEs consciously, any time they like (if you believe in it to begin with). Interesting, although I am not sure that I would want to be able to do that at random. I do have the ability to "disconnect" from almost any given situation, but not to that extent. I have to wonder, are there significant differences than the kind I experience during subspace and the time I experienced it from trauma. You are correct in that I believe I was very close to death at that moment in time. However, although the experiences are different in some manner...I have found them to always be complimented by a feeling of peace. The one I experienced traumatically also had a quality of intense sadness and a sense of urgency...but it was a place where the pain receded. It's very difficult to say, all "altered states" are so unknown and confusing to begin with, it's not something we are taught about unfortunately. Beyond just waking, dreaming, day dreaming, hypnosis, meditations, drug induction, out of body experiences, body chemical highs and lows, lucid dreaming and MORE...there's just so many possible experiences to have. I know what I experience, what I believe things are, but that's not much help to you since it's such a personal experience. There are likely some differences between your subspace separation and your traumatic separation, however there are likely significant commonalities as well. Most "subspace" arises from a body's feeling of trauma, endorphin and adrenaline rushes, prolonged "abuse," and a need to cope with difficult stuff. As a sidenote, I think this is also why subspace gets such an adored status in our culture, sharing traumatic experiences is a deep, intense and swift way to form solid bonds Unfortunately sharing a trumatic experience is a very bad way to judge someones day to day character over the long term. Thus we have the oh too common issue of frenzied newbies forming swift and deep attachments with total dorks leading to disillusionment down the road. If you feel like you want to explore OOBE's or such more in-depth I certainly encourage it. Aside from the "weirded out" feeling, there really aren't any side effects or problems. (though please don't do it while driving or anything where you need your FULL conscious self available). Oh, and I wouldn't suggest going for another NDE just to get it...there's much calmer and simpler ways to get there. Even more than hypnosis, you are in total control and can direct it and return from it whenever you like. But if it's just something curious in your life, that's fine as well. I know I have OOBE's, always have and likely always will, but they don't really mean terribly much to me other than what they provide in terms of perspective and understanding. Again, it helps that I didn't get freaked out when it first happened, and it's not associated with trauma in my life. To me OOBE's aren't the goal, they are simply one way amongst many to get to the goal.

RiotGirl -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 10:22:58 PM)
Fascinating!!!!!!! Some one explain to me Astral projection please? And explain how one reaches subspace as i dont think i've ever been. Had one dream where i hit the ground, fell out of an airplane, should of died but instead transported a couple of hundred years in the future. (raptors in the city part, especially at night) Realised in the Dream that i could prolly go back a couple of hundred years if i fell a distance. Took hitting the ground in pain a couple of times to realise, i had to be DYING to jump through time. Sometimes i am able to disconnect oddly when looking at the moon. No longer inside me, but not that far from me.. strange.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/3/2005 11:13:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RiotGirl Fascinating!!!!!!! Some one explain to me Astral projection please? Explain it how? There's a few dozen theories out there...the entire mind/body/soul idea in itself is pretty unclear and varied, so explaining how to separate one from the other in the form of astral projection is even more so. So, is there something specific you want explained? quote: And explain how one reaches subspace as i dont think i've ever been. There's a bunch of threads on that. Like an orgasm, no one reaches it or experiences it the same way, some people don't really do it often and some do it all the time. It can even be very different depending on the type of scene. quote: Had one dream where i hit the ground, fell out of an airplane, should of died but instead transported a couple of hundred years in the future. (raptors in the city part, especially at night) Realised in the Dream that i could prolly go back a couple of hundred years if i fell a distance. Took hitting the ground in pain a couple of times to realise, i had to be DYING to jump through time. It sounds more like an altered experience/lucid dream than an OOBE. They are related, but for me dreams/lucid dreams are very different states for me than an OOBE. quote: Sometimes i am able to disconnect oddly when looking at the moon. No longer inside me, but not that far from me.. strange. Explain the "disconnect"?

UtopianRanger -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 2:27:39 AM)
quote: Have you ever had a dream where you were falling and right before you slammed into whatever you woke up with a jarring sensation and your heart thudding? For me, an OBE experience always starts in the beginning of my REM cycle. I'm very comfortable. And when my eyes start to get real heavy and I'm just about ready to fall off into a deep sleep, I can feel it start to come on. It's a strange vibration type feeling; and a sensation, where I can actually feel my body begin to lift up - It usually ends there. I keep a note book on my night stand, and try to record everything. quote: Time means nothing, distance means nothing, you can go and see whatever it is you desire at that moment. I've been able to project to my Teacher while he was visiting Australia, and he came to me as well. I think this is absolutely wonderful! And even though I know many that don't believe, or fathom the concept, I know it to be true. The power wielded by the subconscious mind is truly awesome. - The Ranger

Kindred2Evil -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 7:10:07 AM)
What still gives me a chuckle are the memories of the first several dozen times I tried to do it. I would fall asleep from being so relaxed lol. Then it got to the point where I would come mostly out, but have this feeling of being stuck right there at the end. I had to train myself to just let go. I suffer from severe blinding migraines sometimes and have used a similar technique to get through the day when I didn't want to be doped up to my eyeballs. It's like coming partway out, but retaining enough sense of body-self to be able to function. Tricky, but useful. Of course, as Em suggested, don't try this if you're driving or need to be completely HERE. I think it can be a wonderful experience for those who are able to get past the "hoogidy" creepy feeling.

nella -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 7:35:53 AM)
i dont know if it is sleep paralysis or OBE i experience, for it never go byond that point, but i do feel like in a tance, it scared me so, also i had some wird experiences when a little girl and i always woke up in sleep paralys, it is an interesting topic.

imtempting -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 7:58:25 AM)
I was with some friends and we were going fast in his car and a car pulled out in front. I seen the near miss from above the car. It was weird but thought and still kinda do that I just made it up like that to stop my fear as I Was young at the time.

MstrHellsFury -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 2:38:04 PM)
as this part of my life is personal..I will say just one thing about this topic...it can and does happen...while in Nam...I wanted to be home so bad one night..I sat and just concentrated on being with my mom and dad...I thought it was such a nice vision...seeing and talking to them..enjoying the entire day just being close to them...I went to the store to get something...doesn't matter what it was now...but a car backfired next to me at the stoplight...when I jerked around to see the driver...I was back sitting where I was...this scared the hell outta me...I was in the field at the time..so it was two days later back at base that I called home...just to hear my moms voice....she told me she had the cops out looking all over for me because I didn't come back from the store...and why did I go back to Nam without telling anyone I was leaving...I never could or did explain it right then..and I'm not sure this is what the topics about...just seemed to fit...

MadameDahlia -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 3:37:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kindred2Evil Have you ever had a dream where you were falling and right before you slammed into whatever you woke up with a jarring sensation and your heart thudding? I've been a Wiccan/Pagan for a very very long time and I was told that when one does that, they are experiencing an out of body moment. I've heard that the sensation is a combined muscle spasm - lots of muscles, all relaxing at the same time.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 7:29:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kindred2Evil What still gives me a chuckle are the memories of the first several dozen times I tried to do it. I would fall asleep from being so relaxed lol. Then it got to the point where I would come mostly out, but have this feeling of being stuck right there at the end. I had to train myself to just let go. I suffer from severe blinding migraines sometimes and have used a similar technique to get through the day when I didn't want to be doped up to my eyeballs. It's like coming partway out, but retaining enough sense of body-self to be able to function. Tricky, but useful. Of course, as Em suggested, don't try this if you're driving or need to be completely HERE. I think it can be a wonderful experience for those who are able to get past the "hoogidy" creepy feeling. I'd sincerely like to hear about yours and others techniques for inducing these type of experiences. It comes natural for me, but if there's a way for me to induce it, and gain control, I want to know! Thanks in advance! - The Ranger

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Out of body Experiences? (8/4/2005 7:34:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger I'd sincerely like to hear about yours and others techniques for inducing these type of experiences. It comes natural for me, but if there's a way for me to induce it, and gain control, I want to know! Thanks in advance! - The Ranger There are as many ways to reach this mental state as there are ways to explain what it is (and they are many!). It is like orgasming, you simply have to work at it and get yourself going with it. Meditation, drugs, starvation, stress, focus, rituals...any one or all might work for you. Find yourself a teacher offline, and read some serious lit on the topic.

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